2013 Trade Value: #45 – #41

Honorable Mentions
#50 to #46

We continue on with the 2013 Trade Value list, starting out with a pretty safe bet for short term value, then moving on to four high risk/high reward players who could either be franchise building blocks or reminders of the unpredictability of developing talent. At this part of the list, there are trade-offs to be made, and each of these players comes with some flaws, but enough value to demand a serious haul in order to even make their current teams consider parting ways with this kind of talent.

 

#45 Edwin Encarnacion (3B)


Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Fld BsR WAR
30 399 11.5 % 11.3 % .264 .353 .532 .380 140 -1.2 1.4 2.7

Under Team Control Through 2016: $9 million, $10 million, $10 million option

Encarnacion’s breakout 2012 season has carried over into 2013, as the Blue Jays first baseman has proven himself as one of the game’s premier power hitters, and has actually even lowered his strikeout rate again this season.  Encarnacion’s combination of power and contact are extremely rare, and serve to make him a highly valuable player even though he’s a defensive liability who doesn’t do much besides hit.  

There are other good sluggers who won’t be on this list, though.  Encarnacion is here primarily because of the Blue Jays decision to lock him up last summer.  That contract has turned out to be a fantastic decision, and even after this season, the Blue Jays will still control his rights for three more years at a total cost of $29 million.  Guys who signed similar contracts as free agents last winter: Cody Ross, Jeremy Guthrie, Jonathan Broxton.  Yeah, I think Encarnacion is underpaid.  

His skillset isn’t one that generally ages that well, and his success record is still on the shorter side, but Encarnacion is an elite slugger in his prime signed to an absurdly team friendly deal.  He might not be a household name, but there aren’t many players in baseball providing this kind of power at a reasonable cost.  

 

#44 Anthony Rendon (2B)


Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Fld BsR WAR
23 177 7.3 % 18.1 % .301 .352 .460 .354 127 -1.3 0.5 1.1

Under Team Control Through 2019: Pre-Arb, Arbitration

On upside, Rendon could probably be in the top ten.  So far, he’s showing signs that he can make a successful conversion to second base, and his bat could be really special relative to other second baseman.  The Nationals control his rights for six more seasons after this one, including several at the league minimum.  He’s a quality performer with the chance to become a star.  

But, at the same time, the track record is just too short to promote him any higher.  The injury questions that haunted him in college followed him to the minors, and he’ll need to play 150 games for several years in a row before we know whether he can actually hold up to that kind of schedule.  Moving him to second base might exacerbate his health issues, so there’s an argument to be made that the value added from the position change could also be a detriment long term.  

Rendon is a big risk/big reward guy, and that’s why he’s near the bottom of the list.  In a year, he’ll probably either be much higher or not on the list, depending on how his first full year as a big leaguer goes.  If he stays at second base and avoids the DL, he might just end up in the top 10, but that’s hardly a given, and the unpredictability limits his trade value, despite the obvious upside.

 

#43 Jason Heyward (OF)


Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Fld BsR WAR
23 289 10.4 % 17.0 % .227 .324 .371 .312 98 9.3 0.6 1.6

Under Team Control Through 2015: Arbitration

Last year, I put Heyward at #9, as he reminded everyone of the player he could be, and again looked like a star in the making.  He’s followed up a fantastic all around season by once again losing his power stroke, and while he’s just 23, the inconsistency is doing a number on his value.  There’s only so long that teams will keep paying for potential, and his dwindling years of team control exacerbate the problem.  

Despite his youth, the Braves only control Heyward’s rights for two more seasons after this one.  He may very well bounce back and once again show that he can be a franchise building block, but by the time he put his inconsistency behind him, he’d be a free agent.  Right now, Heyward finds himself in the slightly awkward position where both his present value and his future value have been diminished.  

All that said, we’re still talking about a 23-year-old who already has accumulated +15 WAR in his career, and projects as a +4 win player going forward.  Guys who can hit Major League pitching their early twenties often go on to become superstars.  Heyward’s defense and baserunning give him a high floor even if the bat never does develop the way it looked like it might have earlier on, and if it does, then he’s got a shot at being one of the most complete players in the sport.  But there’s just so many ifs here.  Heyward would be a popular trade choice, but he probably wouldn’t be anyone’s first choice, either for winning now or winning later.

 

#42 Jean Segura (SS)


Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Fld BsR WAR
23 397 4.3 % 12.1 % .325 .363 .487 .367 134 -2.4 0.8 3.2

Under Team Control Through 2018: Pre-Arb, Arbitration

I will openly admit to having some hesitation about this rating.  Segura’s first half bears some pretty strong resemblances to what Alcides Escobar did in the first half last year, earning his way onto the bottom of the list before he decided to remind us that he’s kind of a terrible hitter.  Segura has more power than Escobar, but his defensive reputation isn’t as strong, and it wouldn’t be that surprising if he fell apart in the second half, making this ranking look silly in retrospect.  

But, if you haven’t looked around at the current crop of shortstops lately, it’s not a very pretty sight.  There just aren’t that many guys who can play the position and provide significant offensive value, and while Segura’s track record basically boils down to two good months at this point, he looks like the rare young shortstop who can hit.  

And, as with all players with his experience level, the price is right.  He’s got two more league minimum years before he gets to arbitration, and the Brewers control his rights for five more seasons after one.  If Segura establishes himself as one of the better hitting shortstops in baseball, he’s going to be absurdly valuable based on his production and cost.  It’s not a sure thing, but given the lack of quality offensive shortstops in baseball right now, there’d be a long line to take a shot at Segura if the Brewers put him on the block.

 

#41 Jeff Samardzija (P)


Age IP K/9 BB/9 GB% ERA FIP xFIP RA9-WAR WAR
28 124.0 9.29 3.19 47.4 % 4.06 3.62 3.38 1.1 1.9

Under Team Control Through 2015: Arbitration

By ERA, Jeff Samardzija has been pretty average this year, and hasn’t really established himself as a true front line pitcher.  By metrics other than ERA, Samardzija is one of the best power pitchers in baseball.  If the Cubs decided to sell on Samardzija, there would certainly be some teams scared off by the runs he’s allowed, but there’d be a long line ready to make him their future ace as well.  

Samardzija’s a bit older than most of the guys without long track records of success, but his football background gives him a bit of a pass, and age isn’t as important for pitchers as it is for hitters.  Samardzija’s been very good since his fastball started sitting in the mid-90s, and he’s posted identical 3.38 xFIPs over the last two years.  There are a lot of reasons for optimism about his future.  

Like Price, he’s an arbitration eligible pitcher only under control for two more years after this season.  Unlike Price, though, his arbitration payouts are fairly modest, and his inflated ERA may just help them stay that way.  Samardzija’s lack of accolades should help keep an extension cost out of the stratosphere, and acquiring him now in order to buy out his free agent years at a discount wouldn’t be a bad strategy.  Of course, that’s also why the Cubs won’t trade him.




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  1. Steven Burt says:

    4 NL players? Such a homer Cameron.

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  2. Sean says:

    Nice article as usual, but shouldn’t Segura be listed as team-controlled through 2018, or is there something I’m not understanding?

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  3. Brian says:

    Segura has more team control than “through 2015″

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  4. Eminor3rd says:

    The Shark ahead of Price. Who woulda guessed that a year ago?

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    • MK says:

      It is interesting to think about Price vs. Samardzija; the Rays would probably trade Price for Samardzija straight up, but if the Dodgers had Price, I’m not sure they would make the same decision. Thinking about this list in tiers instead of ordinal rankings probably makes more sense. So far I think all of the player (50 through 40) belong in the same tier where some teams would prefer Austin Jackson and others might prefer Samardzija.

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      • Baltar says:

        Yes, a few spots in the rankings is not that important. Fans always take these lists too seriously in that sense.
        I love seeing this list of 50 of the players with the most excess value and the summaries. Whether they are listed at 50 or 41 doesn’t matter to me.

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      • James Krueger says:

        Not to take away from any other points you made, but I find it hard to believe that the Rays would part with Price for Shark straight up. A team that sells its veteran talents for prospects wouldn’t sell him for a pitcher older than him, and about as expensive. That just isn’t the way they have operated since Friedman took over. I understand I might be taking your metaphor too literally, I’m not trying to do that, I’m just trying to point out that there’s zero chance of it happening in real life. But then again, you never know, because baseball.

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        • rccb says:

          He isn’t “about as expensive” though, and I can’t see the one year age difference counting against Samardzija when Price has more mileage on his arm.

          The real value, for the Rays, in trading players like Price is to reload for the future, so this trade isn’t super likely. What makes it intriguing though is the Rays could swap Price for Samardzija with the idea of replicating Price’s production for half the cost then, after 2014, trade Samardzija for basically the same reload-type return as they could get for Price.

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  5. Brad Wesley says:

    How much does Rendon’s long term position (2B or 3B) impact his ranking? Appesrs the above assumes he sticks at second.

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    • Dave Cameron says:

      The bat is a lot more valuable if he can play a quality second base, certainly. Depending on health, he could make the list as a third baseman, though, if his offense develops as expected.

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    • Balthazar says:

      Rendon, to me, is the player in the 2013 Top 50 most likely _not_ to be in the 2014 Top 50. But given the 2B conversion, I totally understand the rationale for his placement here.

      No way to I see Heyward as a Top 50 trade commodity, but if the Braves are offered a package of that weight for him they’d be crazy not to take it, wouldn’t they? He’s had two pretty bad batting years by the age of 23 two, and guys like that almost never become (or ever were) stars; unless those batting years were before age 20, which they weren’t. Heyward brings his D, and gets his walks, but the rest has been damn weak, and I’ll take the under on that. I may not believe in Austin Jackson either, but he’s been more consistent, actually.

      Pretty much agree with the other three in the cohort. I have to think Edwin En’s trade value might be even higher—a lot higher—with the right team, though I think he’s indexed properly here given the warts and decline risk attacked to his overall performance. An interesting guy to try to evaluate, that’s for sure.

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  6. Braves Fan says:

    I’m not even sure Heyward should be this high. :-(

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  7. Matty Brown says:

    I wish you used the ‘past 365 days stats’ in this analysis.

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  8. Luis Matos says:

    Obviously Michael Young and Ben Revere are going to be #1 and #2, but does Ryan Howard or John Mayberry finish 3rd?

    /s

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  9. NotChris says:

    The Phillies BIGOTRY around here is as bad as the bigotry in Florida right now. Or in Nazi Germany.

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  10. Scott says:

    Uh oh, the highest brave was in the 40s. Get ready for some bitching.

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    • Anon21 says:

      Nah, it’s all good. Just to pick a random counterexample, the Nationals may have a couple guys in the top 10, but they also have an extremely mediocre baseball team and are going to miss the playoffs. I’m pretty sure most Braves fans are happy with the current mix of “high trade value” and actual on-field success.

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      • Thomas Grantham says:

        Extremely mediocre is somewhat of an oxymoron isn’t it?

        Also, I hope Strasburg is not in the top 10. K rate is down, and he hasn’t shown he is durable.

        As for the Braves, the only other player I could’ve seen on the list would be Simmons. Hasn’t hit at all this year, and ZiPS/Steamer both have him at 2.5 WAR. I think that floor is very valuable for the next 5 years of cheap control. Plus, I doubt his .249 BABIP will stay there.

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        • Well-Beered Englishman says:

          Strasburg will probably be around 25-30; Harper will probably be around 3.

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        • Nickname Damur says:

          “Extremely mediocre” could be a euphemism for “bad”.

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        • Anon21 says:

          Kimbrel, too. I know, I know, relief pitchers, but there are several real GMs who do not know and would give up some actual prospects to get a guy who strikes out all the hitters.

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    • TKDC says:

      And then there are the Phillies, who not only don’t really have any high value trade pieces anymore, but also have Ryan Howard on the books for 4 more seasons and $100 dollars. Enjoy fighting over second place, losers.

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  11. ralph says:

    Yeah, it’s amazing that Encarnacion has entered the territory of true power hitters capable of walking more than they strikeout. If he can maintain that while bringing his BABIP up from the current .239, that would be something.

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  12. BigSteve says:

    I’m not sure I get the arguement for Rendon over Carpenter. I’m sure it was close since Carpenter was on just missed and Rendon is on the bottom of the list. I also know that you appreciate what Matt Carpenter is doing.

    Carpenter has a higher RC+ in 767 PA than Rendon does in his promising start. Even if this is Carpenter’s upside, it is the upside of an all-star. Age seems to be a wash since you will be getting Carpenter through his entire peak (which he seems likeyl to be in now. Carpenter has done very well in his transition to 2B, and is also known to be a + defender at third if it is needed. Rendon has that reputation but has not proven it at the Major league level.

    I like Rendon, but he has more of a injury history than Carpenter, and has less of a Major League track record. He has yet to prove he can make adjustments at the Major league level, I also don’t think his upside could be that much higher than what Carpenter has already shown.

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    • batpig says:

      I think the elite prospect cachet of Rendon is the difference here. Reputation counts when evaluating trade value and Rendon was a Top 10 pick. While it’s possible (even likely?) that Carpenter may provide more literal on-field value in the near future, Rendon has the big name and the big upside.

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      • BigSteve says:

        I guess this is my problem. I think the elite prospect cachet lasts a bit too long. I think it still applies to Rendon, but should have little relevance when evaluating Carpenter due to his track record. Prospect evaluators just plain missed at him because he was above average at most things, while well above average at less heralded things like contact skills and patience.

        He is the same type of player in the Majors as he was in the minors. And he has been a top 10 player in the Majors this year according to WAR. Maybe that is a bit over his head and maybe it isn’t, but I think it would be fair to consider it his upside. If Rendon’s upside was higher than that I believe he would have topped a lot of prospect lists. Rendon also has a very troubling injury history that could be exasperated by his position change, as Dave noted.

        With so many elite prospects washing out,if I were a GM I’d go with track record/health over age/prospect pedigree. Especially considering that both players will be under team control in their primes, with Rendon being a little before his at the beginning and Carpenter moving past his at the end.

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        • Balthazar says:

          The issue here, to me, BigSteve is that you’re talking Carpenter’s upside without really weighting his downside. You get that this is very probably a career year for him, no? No, I guess not. This is by a good margin the best year he’s ever had: what’s the likelihood he even repeats it? Yes, the man has a broad base of skills; that has value going forward. The performance that came out of those skills didn’t mesh with production that got him to the majors earlier. If Carpenter had even another year of performance at this level, or was several years younger so there was projection possibility, of course he’d be in the Top 50—but he doesn’t have either. So you have to weight the downside in a way that accounts for his past.

          I’m not a real believer in Anthony Rendon, so I get your comments there. Sure, there is cachet hanging around him. But the fact remains that he is younger, so you have more room to project stabilizing and perhaps improving performance. His year’s under team control are an attractive trade commodity, and we’re talking about his trade value more than his absolute value. And his tools were very highly rated for a reason, and those tools haven’t gone away. Rendon has found a way to disappoint for three years in a row, and that is something that sticks in my teeth, but that’s a sense not a fact. Rendon is here on tools, projection, and control years. And I don’t doubt that the majority of GMS would trade for Rendon before they would for Carpenter, and NOT just because of Rendon’s jinglely past. Which past, btw, has marketing value, something not presently included in these evaluations but which I do think factors into GM’s roster & acquistion considerations.

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        • BigSteve says:

          Balthazar, I totally get that this is probably a career year for him, but I still think it is his upside. He’s done it, he’s doing it, nothing is screaming that it’s do to luck. I don’t think that it is too crazy to think he has a chance to do it again.

          I think that its more likely that he ends up a 3-4 win player. Which is still very good, and his floor isn’t much below that.

          So again I think this is the classic ceiling vs floor argument. Given Rendon’s injury history and sparse track record I’d say his floor is a washout or utility guy. I doubt his upside is higher than what Carpenter has already shown he can do. He is VERY risky, and I just don’t see the possible reward being enough to outweigh that.

          As a side note I’m not arguing that Carpenter should necesarily be on the list, just that he’s higher than Carpenter. I would also be shocked if a GM would trade Carpenter for Rendon. GM’s are extremely risk averse. Why give up a team controled all-star for an injury prone upstart with upside. I could be wrong, but I think if you polled most GM’s they give up more for CArpenter than Rendon. Mainly for the reasons I have outlined.

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    • Jays Observer says:

      I think Matt Carpenter might higher on the list, give it some time. He’s a really good player.

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      • Bip says:

        I believe he was in the “wait and see” category of the honorably mention post, right? So if he keeps it up he’ll definitely be on the list next year. If not, Dave looks smart for excluding him.

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    • chuckb says:

      Carpenter’s slightly older than Tendon, has less of a prospect pedigree, and he Cards have at least 1 fewer year of team control.

      I initially thought the exact same thing but can get behind the rationale.

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      • JN says:

        Tendon? That might be a good name for him, given his injury history.

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      • DBA455 says:

        Likely very comparable players – Rendon just 4.5 yrs younger. Enough to make the difference between 44 and ~54.

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      • Will says:

        Carpenter is only slightly older than Rendon??

        Then Verlander is only slightly older than Kershaw. And Pettitte is only slightly older than Wainwright.

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    • Will says:

      How is it not obvious??

      Matt Carpenter is 27 years old. Hitters peak from around this age. So basically, what you’re seeing right now from Carpenter is what you’ll get.

      Anthony Rendon turned 23 last month (he’s 4.5 years young than Carpenter). Yet, his offense is only slightly worse than Carpenter’s. Assuming a normal aging curve, you can expect Rendon to improve quite a bit. A lot of those 14 2B Rendon has hit in 177 PA will turn into HRs in future seasons as Rendon matures physically.

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  13. Michael Scarn says:

    Dave, question I’ve always wondered: Are these the trade value rankings as if you were the GM of all 30 teams or are they the value rankings relative to considerations of the actual 30 specific GMs?

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    • Ruben Amaro Jr. says:

      This sure isn’t my list.

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    • Baltar says:

      Last year, Dave explicitly said that he was ranking trade value in the eyes of the 30 GM’s (though he wasn’t always consistent with that). This year, he appears to be ranking in order of “excess value,” which would mean his opinion. Either way, he will shuffle back and forth to defend his ranking, but that doesn’t really reduce the fun to me.

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    • Sleight of Hand Pro says:

      depends on how it makes him look. if its someone he clearly put too low on the list (like many ace pitchers not under control very long, i.e. david price this year) he will say its more or less excess value. if its someone he put too high on the list, he will defend it by saying how much GMs tend to give up for such player and go into some bidding war explanation.

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  14. grandbranyan says:

    I think you are underselling Segura’s hitting with an Escobar comparison. He has a thick, muscular build and consistently makes hard contact; two things that aren’t true of Escobar. I’d also say Segura’s power advantage over Escobar is significant, while Escobar’s defensive advantage over Segura is marginal.

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    • bdhudson says:

      Segura and Escobar have very similar contact % numbers, and escobar is noticeably higher in both LD% and FB%, while Segura hits the ball on the ground 60% of the time. Segura probably has more power than Escobar, sure, but you can’t expect a consistent power surge from a guy that only lifts the ball 22% of the time. For SS power comparison, Desmond and Hardy have fb% of ~38% each.

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      • grandbranyan says:

        Escobar has a career minor/major league ISO of .090/.084 compared to .134/.126 for Segura, so Segura has always had more pop regardless of his batted ball profile.

        In Escobar’s best season he produced -2.1 batting runs. Segura is at 15.3 so far this season. Over the course of a full season that is a better than 2 WAR advantage on bat alone that Jean has over Alcides.

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  15. Perry says:

    This is one of my absolute favorite series of articles that Dave/FG publishes. One suggestion: if a player was ranked in last year’s top 50, include that ranking somewhere in the write-up for this year. It would be interesting to see that movement. Great work, though!

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  16. brendan says:

    Dave,
    Does E5 really have more value than Donaldson or Seager? He doesn’t have a much longer track record of success than those 2. He’s much older, and he doesn’t have defensive value to fall back on if his bat slumps. Plus he’s got a guaranteed contract.
    I think I’d have to go with either of those 2 young 3B’s over encarnacion
    last 365 WAR:
    JD 6.4
    KS 5.3
    EE 4.4

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    • ralph says:

      I think Dave’s point in the Honorable Mentions article was that this isn’t a pure ranking by expected $/WAR, but actual trade value on the market. And teams want power from their corners, even if it means giving up WAR.

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    • Lethal says:

      EE isn’t a 3B anymore. He did play 5 games in NL parks this year (thankfully getting 3B eligible for my fantasy team) but is more of a DH and plays some 1B. His contract is a huge plus to this situation-won’t find many guys hit 40+ HR and walk more than they strikeout. (Hell, don’t see many guys period who walk more than they strikeout) I would take EE over those 2 in a heartbeat.

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    • Sean says:

      E5′s track record might not be much longer but the peak is higher. He has 67 home runs since the start of 2012. Seager has 35, and Donaldson 38 (of which 13 are at the AAA level). If those guys start showing power that rivals E5′s, or power somewhere close while outshining him in other ways, then I’m sure their lower contracts will propel them past him. Dave did say that the premium on power (however warranted) was a consideration in these rankings.

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    • chuckb says:

      GMs pay more for homers and EE does that considerably better than the other 2.

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  17. Joe Morgan says:

    I don’t understand why the list isn’t determined by last season’s RBI leaderboard. What am I missing? You people and your numbers….well… RBIs are numbers!

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  18. Rob says:

    So is Dave just totally ignoring bWAR when making these lists? I know someone will make fun of me bringing this up, but Andrelton Simmons has an fWAR of 6.0 over 139 career games. For the sake of comparison, Edwin Encarnacion has never even reached 5 in a season in his whole career. Simmons is currently 0.8 bWAR ahead of E5 this season. Even if you want to split the difference between bWAR and fWAR, Simmons first 139 games are better than Encarnacion’s career best season last year (5.05 WAR to 4.50 WAR) and they are virtually tied just looking at this year (2.45 to 2.50). Simmons is also almost 7 years younger, under team control for 2 additional seasons, and slated to earn less money.

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    • Chickensoup says:

      I don’t even know how you can make a comparison like this. EE has a wOBA a full .100 points higher than Simmons.

      Simmons gets a bump because of how historically bad at hitting the SS position is. He gets a bump in WAR simply by playing a more demanding position even reasonably well. EE plays the position (1B, DH) that pure hitters play, where getting defensive bumps in WAR are hard to get.

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      • Rob says:

        I thought we were rating the 50 most valuable trade chips, not the 50 best hitters. Teams clearly care about defense, especially at a position like SS. Simmons is a historically great defensive SS. His defensive metrics are off the charts good. Did we not see just this offseason how valuable young SS’s who are good or better defensively are?

        Doesn’t it kind of prove the point of Simmons value that he’s been roughly as valuable as EE this season per an average of both WARs despite a .249 BABIP?

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  19. Chris says:

    I was trolling you guys. Your making fun of my comments is now boring. Let’s go back to baseball talk.

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  20. Rendon says:

    You’re wrong, Cameron. Rendon is not making league minimum.
    4 years/$7.2M (2011-14), plus 2015 club option

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  21. E5 says:

    I thought I had converted to E3 these days.

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  22. Dylan says:

    I think most teams take Votto over guys 45-43 (although that’s partly because I view Rendon as a 3B, and E5 as a 1B/DH). I really think he’s been underrated here.

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  23. Dylan says:

    Also, Samardzija’s combination of a somewhat high FB% and, for the second consecutive year, a high HR/FB% scares me. He might be a guy who constantly whose ERA is just consistently higher than his xFIP.

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  24. nilbog44 says:

    Jason Heyward is terrible. He won’t be anywhere near this list ever again.

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  25. Boone says:

    Huh??? U just completely ruined the whole article with your comments on Jean Segura. How in gods name can u take a player who was a top 30 prospect until 2 years ago, was still a top 50 prospect last year, who currently is top 10 of NL leaders in 9 of the 14 main offensive statistics(avg-5th,GP-8th,AB-5th,R-10th,H-1st,TB-5th,3B-2nd,SB-2nd,1B-1st) and if your a sabr nerd(War-6th,Runs Created-8th, and Power-Speed-3rd). You bash his defense, which if u go by statistics is at the top of the league(1st NL in assists, 2nd in double plays turned, put outs at SS, and Range Factor at SS). Then u make the most ridiculous comments about how its only a few months of work, and that its not likely 2 b sustained. Well obviously its not likely 2 be sustained, who in the league has ever been this good in their first year… Oh wait, that’s correct #1, and #2 on your list were last year. The oy reason segura wasn’t as highly rated his last year in Milb as guys like Profar, and Bogaerts is bc the Angela were constantly trying him at different positions. He moved from SS to 3B, then 2B, then back to 3B all in the last half of the final season he played in the angels organization. When segura was 19 he got his only taste of aaa ball, he batted over .400 b4 breaking his ankle. After the ankle injury the angels didn’t expect him 2 keep his speed which is why he was moved from SS, obviously they don’t have the greatest scouts in the world feeding them info. When he got 2 Milwaukee they sent him to AA, put him back at SS his natural position and after 8 games of him running wild and batting over .400 again they brought him up. Idk what your looking at when u watch baseball, but your dead wrong here. How can u think Bogaerts and the rest of the prospects u ranked above Segura have more trade value, Segura was 13 at bats over rookie qualification this year, your only critisism is he’s unproven without years of exp. yet your top 2 players both have a year under their belts, and you ranked players who havent even played above single A yet. Dude, Segura at 42 is just dumb, but your explanation and comparison to Escobar is what made it straight stupid… How could the guy be #42 when there’s probably 30 guys ahead of him that teams would include in a package to trade for him if given the chance?

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