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  1. You have to remember that Jered Weaver took a significant hometown discount. Wainwright should be able to get more than Weaver, probably on the order of 5yrs./$100 million?

    Comment by ettin — November 6, 2012 @ 11:36 am

  2. I think the fact that he’s not going to the market is sort of how that hometown discount happens. Take Cain’s deal down to five years and you get the top of the extension right-hander market: five and $100 like you said. But Cain showed better health than Waino, so I’d dock at least $10m.

    Comment by Eno Sarris — November 6, 2012 @ 11:41 am

  3. Are you imagining something like 5 years and 78 including his 12 million for next year or beginning after that?

    Comment by Ryan — November 6, 2012 @ 12:43 pm

  4. All of these numbers were just the extension, so it would be something like 5/80 plus the $12 million.

    Comment by Eno Sarris — November 6, 2012 @ 12:45 pm

  5. I’m guessing 6 years, and a nice even $100M.

    If Wainwright has 2 or 3 years at his previous level of dominance, and a couple other decent ones, the club gets a very good return on the investment. Meanwhile, from Wainwright’s point of view, it’s a 9-figure contract that makes him a “Cardinal for life.” Which, it sounds like, is what the man wants.

    Comment by Bob Reed — November 6, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

  6. I think you need to consider the Cardinals’ history of pitcher contracts. The two biggest are Lohse at 4/41 and Carpenter at 5/63. Are they going to want to extend a 32 year old with injury history at 5/80? Maybe. But I think it would be a pretty big deviation from their standard practice. I think they offer 4 years, in the 60-65 range (plus the $12M in 2013). It’s a discount to the Weaver deal, but given the slight difference in age and big difference in injury history, it seems fair. Wainwright knows he can do better if he makes it to free agency. But he also knows he’s done with the big paydays if the elbow goes again.

    Comment by indyralph — November 6, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

  7. This is much more likely than the other guesses above. Everyone, including the Cardinals, knows that Waino wants to stay in Stl, and the Cards do not gamble big on aging pitchers. There’s no way this deal hits 9 figures and its only going to get close to $80M if its a five year deal, or a 4 year deal plus a team option.

    Comment by stan — November 6, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

  8. I see what you’re saying about StL history, indy.

    But (1)there’s been some serious salary inflation since Carp signed his 5-year deal; (2)Wainwright is a much better pitcher than Lohse; (3)the Holliday and Molina contracts didn’t align with traditional Cardinal contracts, either; and (4)there’s a *massive* influx of national TV money coming very soon, across all teams — and, as always, that is going to be the rising revenue tide that meaningfully lifts all MLB salaries.

    Wainwright, at $16-17M per year (even for 5 or 6 years) could very well look like a steal by 2015… if not sooner.

    Comment by Bob Reed — November 6, 2012 @ 4:32 pm

  9. Eno, I know English is not your native language but irregardless is not a proper word.

    Comment by Frank — November 6, 2012 @ 5:45 pm

  10. woof! sounds like one though. irregardless. all professory.

    Comment by Eno Sarris — November 6, 2012 @ 5:51 pm

  11. I think st. Louis will have a good handle on waino’s health. If they think he’s good, I bet it’s 5/80 with a 17 million option. If not, someone else gambles.

    Comment by Antonio bananas — November 6, 2012 @ 8:25 pm

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