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  1. That is very sad news for the Padres, Grandal was one of the few brights spots this year in an otherwise dull year.

    Comment by Hurtlockertwo — November 7, 2012 @ 5:11 pm

  2. Sucker.

    Comment by Ryan Braun — November 7, 2012 @ 5:16 pm

  3. The New York Yankees should try to acquire Buster Posey if they need a catcher so badly. He already acts like a Yankee anyway, he’d be even better if he left San Francisco.

    Comment by HollywoodDodger — November 7, 2012 @ 6:08 pm

  4. “:The consequences could be much more far-reaching than just one guy on one team. Everything, everything, is connected. Major League Baseball encounters countless forks as it moves forward, and this is just another one. Down the other path, we’ll never know what there might be.”

    This is like the Cloud Atlas of baseball stories.

    Comment by White Blood Cells — November 7, 2012 @ 6:50 pm

  5. Hmmmm. Wonder if Cincinnati had any ideas that something like this might be coming when they negotiated a certain trade?

    Comment by Bad Bill — November 7, 2012 @ 6:55 pm

  6. As a Mariners fan, I am perfectly OK with the Padres being forked, because damn our natural rivals.

    Comment by georgmi — November 7, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

  7. I agree. Cano and Teixeira and eat $20 million on Tex’s contract

    Comment by Williamsport, Penn — November 7, 2012 @ 7:24 pm

  8. Why are they saying he tested positive for testosterone? Don’t all males produce testosterone? So if it’s naturally occurring how can testing positive for it be a bad thing?

    Or do they mean excessive levels of testosterone? Or maybe testing positive for artificial testosterone?

    Comment by schlomsd — November 7, 2012 @ 7:34 pm

  9. grandal is innocent!!!

    Comment by shawn camp — November 7, 2012 @ 7:47 pm

  10. natural rivals in your annual race to the bottom….of the standings?

    Comment by Joseph Cavanagh — November 7, 2012 @ 7:53 pm

  11. I imagine he didn’t start using until after he got traded. After all, if there’s anything that could induce a player to start juicing, it’s going from GABP to Petco.

    Comment by Tim — November 7, 2012 @ 7:56 pm

  12. The latter. Elevated levels of testosterone beyond normal human production. Or artificial testoserone, aka steroids.

    Comment by TIF — November 7, 2012 @ 8:00 pm

  13. Don’t worry georgmi, Mariners fans got that one… :) Thumbs up from me.

    Comment by Seattle Homer — November 7, 2012 @ 8:03 pm

  14. Clown cheater bro.

    Comment by Bryce Harper — November 7, 2012 @ 8:09 pm

  15. I believe it was a joke.

    Comment by Yeah — November 7, 2012 @ 9:39 pm

  16. Where there’s a will there’s a loophole.

    Comment by yeah — November 7, 2012 @ 10:09 pm

  17. I know nothing about steroid use in baseball presently. I did at one time, enough to know that Canseco was not just talking shit (for once) that over one-half of baseball players were users or had used. I had expected the new testing regime would be effective, but now I wonder. What the Lamond scandal taught us about the European bike tour is that they all do it, and they also are very good at beating the tests. These are sophisticated, disciplined, intelligent cheaters. You would have to be.

    Manny Ramirez is really stupid. Let’s be real. The baseball players who are getting caught appear to be either stupid or lacking the type of discipline it takes to use and work the masking program. Braun may be the exception (if you agree he was caught) unless he is also stupid or undisciplined. So all in all, I am now suspecting that there is a lot more PED use that I thought, and the standard statements of teams who get a player racked up tells me they know it is happening. The statements of the players are ridiculous, even if they are written by the agents.

    Comment by james wilson — November 8, 2012 @ 1:25 am

  18. When there are millions of $$ involved you can bet that for every player caught there are 10 or 20 more who don’t get caught.

    Comment by Bill — November 8, 2012 @ 9:01 am

  19. Does this affect his service time clock?

    Comment by TKDC — November 8, 2012 @ 9:41 am

  20. Or “The Butterfly Effect” of baseball stories, as alluded to in the piece.

    Comment by Red Blood Cells — November 8, 2012 @ 9:43 am

  21. “This is like the Cloud Atlas of baseball stories.”

    Except with 20-plus comments, more people are aware of this story than are aware of Cloud Atlas.

    Comment by jason B — November 8, 2012 @ 10:36 am

  22. Don’t hate the Giants because they are World Champs two out of the last last three years. Unlike the Yankees.

    Comment by Hurtlockertwo — November 8, 2012 @ 11:17 am

  23. “Lamond scandal”

    Not sure who Lamond is, but are you talking about Greg LeMond? If so, he is a huge anti-doping advocate. In fact, with Armstrong and Landis stripped of their titles, he is the only official TDF champion from the US.

    I agree with your point that cycling was — and baseball probably is — dirtier than everyone thinks.

    Comment by MDL — November 8, 2012 @ 11:24 am

  24. Lol, sample size.

    Comment by Uncle Remus — November 8, 2012 @ 12:11 pm

  25. I think there is a picture beginning to emerge about what the success of “the U” may involve.

    Comment by RA Rowe — November 8, 2012 @ 12:18 pm

  26. The Padres will hand the catching position back to Nick Hundley, if just to re-establish his (trade) value. If Grandal opened the season as the starter, Hundley and the Padres wouldn’t have gotten that chance.

    Comment by Simon — November 8, 2012 @ 1:00 pm

  27. Talk about choosing your endpoints. One year earlier and they’re tied. To say nothing of the 27 overall, chump.

    Comment by Garrett — November 8, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

  28. I love your butterfly effect treatise. I hate that Hundley may not be available for a possible cheap trade to the Rays.

    Comment by Baltar — November 8, 2012 @ 1:50 pm

  29. No one can proooove that Grandal’s drug use made him a better ballplayer. Lance Armstrong for the bicycle-riding hall of fame!

    Comment by Leith Kaw — November 8, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

  30. It kind of funny the Rays need a catcher, they shipped a pretty good one to the Mariners for a marginal minor league reliever with a rap sheet. If the Mariners bring up Zunino midseason I wonder what they can get for Jaso out on the market? Jaso is 29 but he is just entering his first year of arbitration.

    Comment by Kazinski — November 8, 2012 @ 3:03 pm

  31. It really stings doesn’t it?? Yankee “fans” crack me up.

    Comment by Hurtlockertwo — November 8, 2012 @ 4:30 pm

  32. as someone who actually watches a ton of padres games, i have to say nick hundley has become a very good defensive catcher.

    Comment by evil kevin towers — November 8, 2012 @ 4:35 pm

  33. As of right now, it seems Jaso may very well be the only player to be counted on to own a bat, in the Mariners org…if it was only as easy as just buying them bats.

    Comment by lewish — November 8, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

  34. Yeah, with him suspended he’s off the 40-man and not accuring any service time during the supsension. Figuring he wasn’t going to see any more time in the minors it won’t change anything as he wasn’t Super-2 bound in the first place. They would have to option him to the minors once the suspension is finished and keep his service days in ’13 under 75 days (mid-July callup) to get an extra year out of control from him. He would go to arbitration 4-times as a Super-2 under that scenario.

    If Hundley bounces back, maybe they do just that, with Grandal getting the call in mid-late July with Hundley likely dealt. I’d probably give up an extra month & a half of Grandal in ’13 to get that ’19 season under control if the team isn’t competing.

    Comment by Amish_Willy — November 9, 2012 @ 7:04 pm

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