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  1. Will you be doing an updated version of Toronto’s system now that this happened, or just including these prospects in the Miami write-up?

    Comment by Nick — November 14, 2012 @ 1:16 am

  2. im glad they could give nicolino and keep syndergaard

    Comment by jordany valdespin — November 14, 2012 @ 1:48 am

  3. Where would you say Toronto’s farm system ranks overall after this deal?

    Comment by Ian — November 14, 2012 @ 2:02 am

  4. Not Mark but I would guess somewhere in the doublt digits- early teens.

    Comment by SF 55 for life — November 14, 2012 @ 2:07 am

  5. 60 is a fair bit higher than slightly above average

    Comment by Jonny D-bag — November 14, 2012 @ 2:10 am

  6. I’d probably still have them around the top five.

    Comment by Austin — November 14, 2012 @ 5:27 am

  7. hecky will be a utility guy in 2 years.

    Comment by iallm — November 14, 2012 @ 6:54 am

  8. An updated Jays Top 15 will hopefully come today or by the end of the week.

    Comment by Marc Hulet — November 14, 2012 @ 7:51 am

  9. I’ll rank officially in March but probably 12-16 range. AA has purged a lot of depth in the last six months

    Comment by Marc Hulet — November 14, 2012 @ 7:52 am

  10. Hechavarria IS an impact defender, that was obvious in the big leagues. We’re not talking about potential any more with him. Even in 2011 there were several Jays coaches saying he was already the best defender in the majors.

    Comment by Grant — November 14, 2012 @ 8:49 am

  11. I don’t see how you can drop them that much while only losing their #5,6 and #10 prospects. Not to mention you didn’t include Gose on the list and Hech still made it. With Gose on it they lost their #6, 7 and 11 prospects. I’d still slot them around #10.

    Comment by Jordan — November 14, 2012 @ 9:13 am

  12. Not only didn’t they have to offer up any of its top 4 talents but they didn’t have to offer up Gose either. So that’s really their top 5 young talents. Tremendous deal for the Jays.

    And they got someone to take Escobar, to boot…and actually got something of value for him. A tour de force for AA.

    Comment by chuckb — November 14, 2012 @ 9:45 am

  13. How he makes this deal without moving Sanchez or d’Arnaud – I have no clue.

    Comment by Geoff — November 14, 2012 @ 9:48 am

  14. It’s basically one year of J.J., and he’s been oft injured and when he was healthy last year he just didn’t look the same. He could rebound and be a #1, or he could continue to be inconsistent.

    Then Reyes, and a bunch or replacement level garbage from the Marlins. Reyes netted a lot here, but he’s not cheap either and he has his own health baggage. Buerhle is Buerhle, which at this point is a #4 starter, and an expensive one to boot. I don’t think the Marlins did bad here.

    Comment by Bill — November 14, 2012 @ 9:59 am

  15. I don’t see why Reyes and Buerhle would have much trade value. They were signed as free agents by the team willing to give them the most money in 2012. The contracts were backloaded, and like almost all free agents, the year that is most likely to be the best was the first. Now the Marlins traded them. I look at this deal as really being Johnson and Emilio for the Yunel and the prospects, and it covers up the fact that the other two are really just salary dumps as what they have remaining on their contracts is at least very similar to what they could get in free agency.

    Comment by TKDC — November 14, 2012 @ 10:03 am

  16. He didn’t include Gose because he lost his prospect eligability last year.

    Comment by Evan — November 14, 2012 @ 10:37 am

  17. I don’t consider a 5 win player in Reyes a salary dump !

    Comment by Infield Fly — November 14, 2012 @ 11:01 am

  18. Johnson was in play at this year’s trading deadline, and its not inconceivable the price was near what the Jays paid…and they got Reyes, Buerhle, and Bonafacio. Money is only money, and the jays have a hard time signing free agents. The money spent wasn’t going to go to better talent, as better talent is always going to be signed by other teams willing to spend more.

    And hey, if it doesn’t pan out, they can always trade these guys to the Dodgers.

    Comment by Impossibles — November 14, 2012 @ 11:05 am

  19. Jake Marisnick “is yet to prove himself at the plate.” Huh?

    2010 143 wRC+ in rookieball
    2011 153 wRC+ in Midwest League
    2012 127 wRC+ in the FSL

    That’s a hella track record, actually. The only place where he wasn’t at *least* a very, very good hitter was when he was young for his league in AA this year. And Jake’s defense — as you rightly pointed out, Marc — is considered legitimately above average in centerfield.

    So for my money, Miami got one truly elite prospect in this deal. Marisnick is one of the 4 or 5 most underrated prospects in all of baseball. He’s in fact a top 25 guy, and Alex A. may very well rue this trade in 3 or 4 years….

    Comment by Terrence Phillips — November 14, 2012 @ 12:35 pm

  20. Escobar is an above average SS on a very team friendly contract. There aren’t many teams who wouldn’t take him, regardless of eye-black comments

    Comment by siggian — November 14, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

  21. @TKDC – the trade value for guys like Reyes and Buehrle is stronger than usual right now, I think. The cause is belief in (or, fear of) near-term wage inflation as the latest wave of TV money washes through baseball.

    Comment by Someanalyst — November 14, 2012 @ 7:06 pm

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