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  1. Webster as the fourth best RH starter? Must be a good system!

    Comment by Jonathan — November 28, 2012 @ 10:37 am

  2. Bleh, sixth. Trolling fail.

    Comment by Jonathan — November 28, 2012 @ 10:37 am

  3. Any projections for Alex Meyer? I mean, comparable major leaguer or estimated arrival year?

    Comment by binqasim — November 28, 2012 @ 10:47 am

  4. Yikes, Kevin Comer made your list. Then again, formulating a list in my head, he would probably still make the top 12 to 14 as well. Just such a drop off from Magill to Comer. More than what 2 spots would indicate.

    Comment by Chris Blessing — November 28, 2012 @ 10:49 am

  5. You realise this is only guys seen in person right? If Comer is 12th, that suggests there are basically no other legitimate prospects below on the list.

    These lists are interesting because of the difference in seeing what somebody thought in person to a scouting report, but as a fan of a team with no affiliates near Mike (the Jays) its a shame Fangraphs doesn’t have other writers doing the same in other regions

    Comment by Phil — November 28, 2012 @ 11:03 am

  6. Comer was a 1st round draft pick so there’s some interest there. He made the list because of that.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 11:17 am

  7. I linked to a previous piece on him.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 11:19 am

  8. I was going to ask if you’d seen Hultzen and Paxton, but I suppose you’d tell me they aren’t such great RH prospects, after all.

    Comment by Bookbook — November 28, 2012 @ 11:23 am

  9. Great stuff as always Mike!

    Did you see Michael Fulmer this year? If so how close was he to making this list? Kid had a pretty good year as a teen in full-season ball and from what I’ve read improved throughout….

    Comment by Bren — November 28, 2012 @ 11:39 am

  10. Do you not see JR Graham panning out as a starter?

    Comment by Timothy — November 28, 2012 @ 11:48 am

  11. Yeah, I’m not sure why every time there’s a new one of these pieces I excitedly scan through it hoping to see Jays prospects, knowing full well that Newman has said many times he didn’t make it to any Jays affiliates this year.

    Comment by Big Jgke — November 28, 2012 @ 11:58 am

  12. Did you get a chance to see Brandon Maurer? If so, what did you think?

    Comment by Ryan — November 28, 2012 @ 12:03 pm

  13. Big jgke,

    Have you checked in on Kiley’s work? He’s posting Jays instructs notes now. I also had a few blurbs on Jays prospect I’ve spoken to contacts about in Marc Hulet’s top-15 prospects.

    I’d love to be able to schedule a trip to the west coast of FL at some point to check in on Sanchez/Syndergaard next year. If I can talk the family into a week on the beach, maybe I can hit games in the evening. I’ll see what I can do.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 12:07 pm

  14. Hultzen will be included at or near the top of the LHP list next week as I wind things down.

    I haven’t spoken to a contact yet who didn’t say Paxton wasn’t quite as good as he was hyped to be. He’s the biggest risk of their big 3 to wind up in the pen.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 12:08 pm

  15. I did not see Fulmer, but heard good things. Based on what contacts have told me, he probably would have fallen into the 9/10 range on this list all things considered.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 12:09 pm

  16. He ranked #2 on my RP list. From that piece…

    “Graham may very well wind up in a big league rotation. However, his so-so strikeout totals in 2012 and my not seeing a third offering forces me to err on the side of caution.”

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 12:10 pm

  17. I did not. I wound up seeing Jackson 3x last season and saw Walker 2x and Hultzen once.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 28, 2012 @ 12:10 pm

  18. Yeah, I’m pretty sure Chris knows.

    Comment by This guy — November 28, 2012 @ 12:19 pm

  19. Bummer. I’m excited to see him up in Tacoma in 2013. From what I hear he has big potential.

    Comment by Ryan — November 28, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

  20. Is Teheran completely off of the prospect radar now or did you just not see him last year?

    Comment by JT Grace — November 28, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

  21. Wow. So T. Walker is definitively “the second best pitching prospect in baseball” by your lights, Mike. But a scouting acquaintance of yours prefers Trevor Rosenthal to Walker (even before Rosenthal had his terrific MLB cameo), and Marc Hulet has Rosenthal only *fourth* among pitching prospects in his *own* organization.

    That’s nuckin’ futs. It seems that either somebody is way, way off in their appraisal of Rosenthal, or St. Louis has the best quartet of farm arms in recent memory.

    Comment by Fiscal Cliff Lee Majors — November 28, 2012 @ 1:46 pm

  22. He only ranks pitchers eh has seen…Hence no Cards pitcher…..Would have loved to see where they ranked, but not eligible on this list

    Comment by kremer — November 28, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

  23. Hmmm.

    Like FCLM, I read it as “Walker is the second best pitching prospect, period” rather than “second best I’ve seen in person.”

    Could you clarify for us, Mike? And thanks for the write-ups. Fine work as usual, sir.

    Comment by Bob Reed — November 28, 2012 @ 2:50 pm

  24. Thanks Mike! Gotta love the writers who answer comment questions…

    Comment by Bren — November 28, 2012 @ 5:10 pm

  25. For me I took it as Taijuan Walker is the consensus second best pitching prospect in the industry and Newman sees no reason to disagree with the industry. It is more an affirmation of the general thought. Mike also shared what one individual scout contact believed and then Hulet has his own interpretation. As we all know scouting is so subjective. I believe if you see the way the Cardinals organization has handled the various pitching prospects, the Cardinals hold Rosenthal in just as high regard as Miller, if not more. He was more aggressively promoted and called up. In the playoffs, it was Rosenthal in a higher leverage role and with greater usage. Public statements seem to indicate a real battle for a starting position with Miller and Kelly.

    All of these guys (Hulet, Newman, the scouting contacts) obviously have much more legitimacy than I , a random Fangraphs and scouting junkie, but my own assessment would be much different. Wacha was a very aggresive ranking for me and Carlos Martinez I really feel will end up in the bullpen long term. It is why I like and respect Hulet’s work as well. Hulet shows a willingness to go against the grain. To me, Rosenthal and Miller are on the same level in the organization’s eyes and Rosenthal’s ceiling is just as high as Miller’s ceiling. I think they both have top of the rotation stuff.

    Comment by Atari — November 28, 2012 @ 5:22 pm

  26. I saw Meyer get lit up by lefties in his start. He needs to get a pitch to get lefties out. Relief guy if he doesn’t.

    Comment by mwash1983 — November 28, 2012 @ 10:49 pm

  27. Sure Bren. I always try to spend an hour or two in the comments area after a piece is posted.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 29, 2012 @ 6:46 am

  28. I might get him in Arizona next spring. I should be there again — maybe even longer than last year.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 29, 2012 @ 6:47 am

  29. Check Atari’s reply. I would have posted the exact same thing. I have no real influence over Marc’s rankings. I just supply blurbs to provide additional information.

    As for the scout’s opinion.. I shared it because I found it particularly interesting. This doesn’t mean I agree with it. It was more to share just how good Rosenthal is given the lack of hype surrounding him.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 29, 2012 @ 6:53 am

  30. I didn’t see Teheran in 2012. I probably should have, but battling rush hour traffic for 2 hours to work my way across Atlanta is miserable. I’d much rather drive 99 miles to Chattanooga than 56 to East Atlanta any day of the week. Plus, catching good Triple-A prospects is a rarity and I’ve already seen Teheran 3x.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 29, 2012 @ 6:56 am

  31. Atari,

    You should be blogging baseball with responses like that.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 29, 2012 @ 6:58 am

  32. I haven’t seen all pitching prospects, but Walker is the 2nd best pitching prospect I’ve seen in the 4 years doing this behind Bundy. I can’t envision another pitching prospect alive that would convince me Walker is definitely NOT the 2nd best pitching prospect in baseball. You could argue a few other guys, but he’s my number 2. I honestly don’t pay much attention to industry consensus.

    Comment by Mike Newman — November 29, 2012 @ 7:04 am

  33. Mike,

    That is one of the best compliments I have ever received. My girlfriend does not seem to be as impressed. :-/

    Comment by Atari — November 29, 2012 @ 3:07 pm

  34. Hey Mike,

    Did you see Matt Barnes at all this year? I’m curious as to how he compares to Alex Meyer, besides being 5 inches shorter. From what I’ve seen and read Barnes fastball seems comparable to Alex Meyers. (Although Alex says he throws a modified no seam fastball). Both are big right handers, similar in age, both drafted (same year) out of college, and both have big time fastballs. This being said, if you’ve seen him of course, are they fairly comparable?


    Comment by CubsFan5 — November 29, 2012 @ 8:05 pm

  35. Phil, my reading comprehension skills are pretty spot on. I’ve actually been with Mike when he’s saw Taijuan Walker, Allen Webster (Last Season), Nathan Eovaldi, Lance McCullers & Kevin Comer pitch. Mike got me my start writing about prospects, helped use his contacts to get me a writing gig somewhere and has promoted my work whenever he has a chance.

    Truthfully, I was surprised that Comer made Mike’s list.

    I totally agree with you about Fangraphs not having other writers watching guys in person. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Mike, both professionally and personally. I think FanGraphs is missing a big opportunity by not having Mike run their scouting content. Just the contributions that he, along with JD Sussman, have contributed to Hulet’s top prospect lists has added legitimacy that was previously non-existent on those lists.

    When you’re seeing these guys in person, talking to other writers who are seeing guys in person and making scouting contacts, you start to realize quickly which writers are primarily relying on second hand, third hand, (poor scouting camera angles) or search engine info. You realize that these guys are full of it.

    Comment by Chris Blessing — November 30, 2012 @ 8:45 am

  36. I have Fulmer right after McCullers on my top 50 scouted list.

    Comment by Chris Blessing — November 30, 2012 @ 8:49 am

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