I don’t think the Yankees really have the goods to get him, so this is more of a general question, but what would it take to get Mike Olt away from Texas? Is he good enough that he’s superstar bait, or could he be had in a prospect swap for another ML-ready player who wouldn’t be blocked in Texas? Alternatively, would the Rangers trade Beltre to give him the spot, and what kind of return would they be looking at (assuming they eat no money)?
I haven’t seen it written yet. But these ain’t George’s Yankees. George only cared about winning. The effects of which paid handsomely. But the boys aren’t willing to pay that extra 20-40mm to get it done. Until they figure that out, there just won’t be the Damn Yankees around. And ARod, well let’s just say “Cream” got it right.
Comment by Chicago Mark — December 3, 2012 @ 1:58 pm
you mean he is in a dark room? with black curtains??
i dont get the reference….
I like it Dan. But no, I mean the first entry from Cream above. But the Yankees might just be in that dark room, with black curtins. But they’re stuck at the station and the room is white. Ha!
Comment by Chicago Mark — December 3, 2012 @ 2:08 pm
If the Yankees wanted to move Olt, it would probably benefit them to trade him for a lesser package rather than trade him to the Yankees. A RH power hitter to play good defense at 3B is exactly what their lineup lacks. If they got him at the league minimum, it would mitigate the A-Rod injury and strengthen one of their chief rivals. Teams usually don’t operate that way.
Sure, just toss in Gary Sanchez, Mason Williams, Tyler Austin, and Mark Montgomery.
Comment by Captain Obvious — December 3, 2012 @ 3:08 pm
Probably the most reasonable thing to do would be to go in-house to replace him. They had Adams working at 3B late last year, Joseph could probably play there. Get a vet on a minor league deal to compete with them in ST. To be honest, the loss of Rodriguez isn’t that huge – he isn’t that impact player anymore and therefore he’s easier to replace.
It’s interesting that the Yankees let Arod take such abuse during the playoffs for being “terrible” when he was actually injured. I don’t like the Yankees or Arod either, but they could have just left him off the roster.
Comment by Hurtlockertwo — December 3, 2012 @ 3:17 pm
Hip Stuff = Steroids. Look it up.
Comment by Expert on These Things — December 3, 2012 @ 3:22 pm
Crazy idea, but talk to the Giants about trading Sandoval iff the Yankees take on Zito as well.
Zito is owed $20M in 2013 and has a $18M option for 2014 ($7M buyout). Sandoval is signed for $5.7M in 2013 and $8.25M in 2014, after which he’ll be a free agent.
Giants have soured on Sandoval due to poor conditioning, but when he’s healthy he’s an above-average hitter for 3B and an adequate defensive player. Mixing and matching with A-Rod at 3B/DH for the next two years would be about the best that the Yankees could realistically hope for without breaking the bank.
Zito is grossly overpaid, but he only has one more year and the Yankees could use a durable, innings eater, even one who is mediocre.
Giants primary benefit is salary relief and maybe a B-/C+ prospect or two in return. Yankees would be above $189M and thus subject to the luxury tax, but for $25.7M in 2013 and $15.25M in 2014 (assuming buyout of Zito) they’d basically be paying market rate for WAR (assuming Sandoval is 3.5 WAR in 2013-14 and Zito is 1.5 WAR in 2013).
Ugh, looking at it realistically, the best option would probably be an Inge/Chavez platoon. You roll with the vets on 1 year deals, and hope Adams can be ready, or Nunez learns how to play 3rd. Can we get Brandon Laird back?
Comment by ElToroStrikesAgain — December 3, 2012 @ 3:46 pm
“The boys” are smartly cutting back for one year to reset the luxury tax escalations. They’ll be back to being their father’s boys next year, and with a lot more dollars in hand (and possibly a better FA market in which to spend it).
They probably won’t do this, because they are the Yankees. But the best idea might be to wait til next year. Deal Cano, Granderson, and maybe some of the bullpen guys. Deal Kuroda and Pettitte at the deadline.
I honestly can’t put together a package that would even slightly interest the Rays. Maybe the entire top 10 of the Yankees prospect list plus $25 million?
The timing also doesn’t work out. The Rays are competitive now, and for the near future. The Yankees are one of their biggest obstacles. Why would Tampa delay their window for future promises when not doing he deal now gives them a serious leg up?
This problem was caused BECAUSE of the free spending. Cashman wanted to let A-Rod walk when he opted out, but instead Hank stepped in and signed A-Rod to the complete disaster that is his current deal.
The Yankees don’t have a lot in the high minors, but that’s not the same thing as the cupboard being bare. Most rankings had them as a top-ten farm system last season, and even though they had some injury setbacks, I have a hard time seeing them come in as anything less than average this time around.
Comment by Jeff Zimmerman — December 3, 2012 @ 5:12 pm
Please explain more. Are you saying that by spending below the luxury tax max they will somehow increase the spending limit? I don’t understand. Unless this is true, I don’t think George would have been penny pinching. George wasn’t one to take a year off to the benifit for the next year. There was no re-loading with George.
Comment by Chicago Mark — December 3, 2012 @ 5:35 pm
Enjoying a lot Travis. A real lot.
Comment by Chicago Mark — December 3, 2012 @ 5:40 pm
This is the other hip? And he’s getting a surgery on this one too?
And thus ARod now has more in common with the grandmother than he does with most major-league players.
Arod is going to be back in June. They need an average third baseman until June. Chavez and Nunez will do just fine (as they did last year). …this really isn’t a big problem for the Yankees.
Arod is going to play 3b when he comes back. He is not valuable to the team as a DH. If he breaks down and has to retire early, so much the better. Let the insurance company pay the rest of his salary…
Is the story really gonna be that the Yankees are hamstrung by A-Rod’s contract the next few years?
I say no – Yankees are about to rocket past the team salary threshold, well into the penalty amounts.
They have to.
Comment by rubesandbabes — December 3, 2012 @ 11:33 pm
Maybe from a talent standpoint, but I’m pretty sure Cano is a free agent in the next year or two and isn’t likely to sign a super team friendly deal like Longoria so he’s probably not a real deal starter either.
Could they move Jeter over to 3B? An eventual transition away from SS is coming, why not now?
They would then need to fill SS bit I think that could be done easier than 3B and the defense would be much better.
A-Rod can DH when he returns.