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  1. I think Mike misread the Stanton trade question. The guy was saying would it take 2 grade As OR 2 A-s and a B+ to get him. Not all 5. I love Mike’s example though of Miller, Rosenthal, Martinez, Tavares and Joe Kelly for Stanton.

    Comment by wobatus — December 7, 2012 @ 1:32 pm

  2. As a Marlins fan, I have had a similar thought for a couple of weeks, but I replaced Miller for Mat Adams and I added either one of their minor league power bullpen arms or Mat Carpenter

    Comment by Z..... — December 7, 2012 @ 4:11 pm

  3. I might have. I don’t see a scenario where 2 prospects would be enough for Stanton regardless of who they were. I thought the commenter was proposing a hypothetical 5-1.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 8, 2012 @ 9:23 am

  4. A Marlins fan? I didn’t think there were any left.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 8, 2012 @ 9:24 am

  5. You look pretty stupid saying the rule 5 draft means nothing. For a lot of teams, its a way to add mid level prospects that you otherwise didn’t have. They spend a year in the majors, if you like them, you keep them. If not, you give them back for a small price. And Rhiner Cruz is still plenty young and shouldn’t have been in the majors last year. But the Astros love his arm and his ceiling is high. He got valuable experience in the process. Once again, I dont know where you people come from, but you blow when it comes to baseball knowledge. I guess it helps when all the nerds who couldn’t actually play the sport worship at your feet while you spit out things you have never witnessed, dont know a damn thing about, and literally make up on the spot.

    Comment by Faggraphs — December 8, 2012 @ 6:18 pm

  6. The general consensus is just that there won’t be too many more Johan Santana, Dan Uggla, or Joakim Sorias taken in the Rule 5 given the new rules for protecting players. There’s still obviously the potential to get something of value, the ceiling is just now utility players and relievers basically.

    No one is asking you to agree with everything every writer says (I sure as hell don’t). But if your contribution to the site is a totally super hilarious “fag” pun and ranting, why even take the time to read the articles here, let alone the chat transcripts?

    Comment by Scott — December 8, 2012 @ 10:31 pm

  7. Slow clap to the best troll I’ve seen in awhile…

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 9, 2012 @ 12:34 am

  8. Scott,

    The guy was trolling. No need to waste the time on a thoughtful reply.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 9, 2012 @ 12:35 am

  9. I am still a Marlins fan. I have been going to between 50-72 games per year for 17 years. I hate Loria and his son-in-law, David Sampson. I dont like them for different reasons than some of the other people down here. I just dont like being lied to. I had no issue moving JJ, Reyes, or Beurhle. I had actually been saying that we needed to trade JJ and find someone to take Reyes’ and Beurhle’s contract for a couple of weeks before that happened. Once we salary dumped Hanley and got to that point, the only thing we could do to get better was to make moves. My problem though is not getting enough value in return. I might have gone in a different direction in moving those players, but even with the move they made with the Blue Jays, they still should have got more. How did they not end up with d’Arnaud? They were asked on the night of the trade by Jim Bowden why they didnt and they said it was b/c they have Brantly. How nonsensical is that? How many teams are looking for catching right now? They could have easily flipped d’Arnaud or traded Brantly. Whatever. I dont really want to get into this again.

    My question is this: Do you think a deal like the one I mentioned would be something that the Marlins or Cardinals might consider if it were on the table? The Cardinals could move Beltran somewhere for a prospect or 2 to put something back into the farm in that scenario. They are really deep in their farm and I’m not so sure that the move would hurt them down there too badly.

    Comment by Z..... — December 9, 2012 @ 3:32 am

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