I had wondered whether Villanueva has stamina issues. Does his performance lag as he gets deeper into a game? The thought occurred to me with the Cubs having all these starters, that Villanueva could either be paired with the surgically repaired Scott Baker or the other swing man the Cubs signed, Scott Feldman, to go three or four innings at a time maybe twice a week.
Comment by bradsbeard — December 21, 2012 @ 11:23 am
Based on the starts I’ve seen, he goes well for about 90 or so pitches and then he starts to elevate the ball. I think the Jays would pull him after a max of 105 or so pitches.
The problem was that with all those Ks is that he’d be done after 6IP.
Comment by Damaso's Burnt Shirt — December 21, 2012 @ 11:58 am
Does he throw a cutter much? It’s not that unusual to see a guy with a fringy fastball like this and the need to pitch to contact a bit more that keep the pitch count down to add or increase the use of a cutter. I always think Jed, Theo, McCleod have a plan when they make this kind of a signing, seeing some upside that makes a even low risk signing like this worth their time and coaches effort. They know he can give 70 quality innings and 1.5 to 2 wins from the pen if nothing changes, but could be a lot more …….could be under Henry made me lose sleep, but under these guys the odds are much better.
I’ve always wondered what would happen if you took two guys that are decent starters but wear out quickly in game and combined the two to make one starter that starts every third game. My idea is that you take a guy like Villanueva and a guy like Feldman, and every three days each of them throws 3-4 innings. Basically the same number of innings as if each of them was a full time starter, but this way they would only have to go through the opposing team’s line up once or twice each game.
Hopefully, the answer is conditioning. He has been used primarily as a reliever so he wasn’t stretched out as much as other guys. I don’t know if he can be completely blamed for that as that is generally a team decision.
If that is the case, I’m sure the Cubs are on it, and theoretically he will probably be fine if he has the stuff.
Going to miss him a lot. Don’t know how many innings you can count on him for..he really seemed to hit a wall two seasons in a row..but really wish the Jays still had him as a swingman..hope he gets over the hump and finds success as a starter.
If the cubs trade garza what kind of haul do you think they could get for him?
Comment by nilbog44 — December 21, 2012 @ 11:37 pm
I don’t think his early numbers were a fluke. When he was on (not tired), he had Marcum style control and could really spot his fastball (all 89MPH of it).
Come to think of it, him and Marcum are pretty similar pitchers. Weird how the Brewers traded one away for almost nothing and yet gave up so much for the other.
Comment by Moonraker — December 22, 2012 @ 2:38 am
This could be a transitional year in terms of workload. If they want to keep him starting, perhaps after a full 2013 in the rotation, no matter how rough it gets, his stamina will improve for a steadier 2014? They could be banking on that idea as they aim for the future.
Comment by Newcomer — December 22, 2012 @ 11:19 pm
The pitchers would hate it. Only one of them can get the win, and wins get you paid unfortunately.
Comment by JaysFanSince94 — December 25, 2012 @ 1:31 pm