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  1. Been a proponent of the Yankees trying to land Olt given the A-Rod situation at third, but I’m not sure what the fit would be. I do wonder if they’d be interested in Mason Williams or Tyler Austin as a centerpiece.

    Comment by Frank Campagnola — December 21, 2012 @ 4:35 pm

  2. By the way – clearly not happening this season due to the Youkilis signing. Just kinda tossing ideas out there. They’ll still need someone cheap to play 3B if they really want to get under the $189MM mark.

    Comment by Frank Campagnola — December 21, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

  3. Trade him to someone who will play him at 3B. I do not trust his bat otherwise, and think some of the “the Rangers want him to replace Hamilton” stuff I have seen is laughable. I do think his glove is legitimate at 3B.

    He and other should be able to help the Rangers land a strong arm or OF talent, which the Rangers need to be competitive next year unless Olt/Martin/Perez/etc are all immediate studs.

    Comment by Joefrom Yonkas — December 21, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

  4. He’d be a perfect fit for the Orioles; once Hardy leaves the infield plan becomes Olt-Machado-Schoop. Problem is, what could the O’s trade for him? Jason Hammel and Jim Johnson? I don’t think that gets it done, but maybe….

    Comment by O's Fan — December 21, 2012 @ 5:00 pm

  5. Braves would be a great match — Teheran for Olt would be a good framework. Teheran is looking more like his old self and is probably more valuable right now.

    Comment by viconquest — December 21, 2012 @ 5:06 pm

  6. I think you are coming around to trusting your own take on him, Mike. I was also a big fan based on scouting reports, before I saw him just completely overmatched by the big fastball at the Futures Game. Granted, those guys are throwing high 90s for one inning, but he’ll face relievers throwing that stuff on a regular basis. Plus, how often to you slap the “above average regular” tag on a guy who does not absolutely feast on the FB? He doesn’t really remind me of LaPorta, but the comparison there is that Matt had a similar alarming showing at a Futures Game, when he of course was highly regarded by scouts, and we know how that’s turned out.

    If you look at his splits last year at Frisco, he had a smaller than expected platoon advantage against lefthanders. But his contact percentage against them was even lower than against righthanders. What I saw of him was that he actually does a decent job of inside-outing balls that he can catch up to. This is odd because including the season at Myrtle Beach he has a pretty decided platoon advantage against lefthanders, and would seem to be a guy who goes up there looking to hook flyballs over the fence using his extreme uppercut swing. How do project a guy with that profile? I’d say you don’t, and you try like hell to sell high on him as you suggest.

    I wouldn’t rule him out as an average regular at some point, but I think at best you’re looking at a good defensive 3B who has to be part of a platoon in the near future. His value compared to Moutakas is of course dramatically lower in that case, since Moose’s platoon disadvantage gives him twice the number of plate appearances.

    Comment by Paul — December 21, 2012 @ 5:42 pm

  7. Giancarlo Stanton to the Rangers for Olt and something.

    Comment by Cody — December 21, 2012 @ 6:21 pm

  8. George W. Bush did WTC

    Comment by Tom — December 21, 2012 @ 7:11 pm

  9. that would be a large group of “something”

    Comment by this guy — December 21, 2012 @ 7:13 pm

  10. How does one measure explosiveness off the barrel?

    Comment by DRM — December 21, 2012 @ 7:48 pm

  11. I think Texas is smart to shop Olt. His perceived value is quite high so they can get a solid return; he’s completely blocked at the MLB level; and the team is ready to win now, so they need to maximize their odds by sacrificing a little extra future for a little more present.

    I’d think the Cubs would be interested, and they may have some SP flex now that they’ve signed EJax.

    Comment by Matt — December 21, 2012 @ 8:05 pm

  12. SEA Hultzen for TEX Olt – who would hang up first?

    Comment by LuckyStrikes — December 21, 2012 @ 9:13 pm

  13. If by something he means Profar, ha!

    Comment by Mordecofe — December 21, 2012 @ 9:45 pm

  14. Hitf/x?

    Has any of that data become available yet?

    Comment by I Agree Guy — December 21, 2012 @ 10:08 pm

  15. We don’t need a 3B, we got Seager. Plus we already made one trade in our own division to get Morales. Making another trade sending one of our top pitching prospects to the Rangers would be a bad move. What we need is a SS. If the Rangers want to part with Andrus for Hultzen I would be all ears.

    Comment by Robert — December 21, 2012 @ 10:14 pm

  16. Jack Z. I’m sure never hangs up on anyone, but he also remembers Lee for Smoak and dust, and so does his boss and his owners. Jack wouldn’t touch that deal, nor should he, nor are the Ms trading Hultzen, period, endquote.

    But yes, I get the strong sense that the Rangers are looking to sell high on Olt, as they barely managed to do with Smoak, and for the same reason: neither will hit in the Bigs with their swing. What I find interesting is how determined Texas was to keep Andrus when they have Profar practically ready. Maybe the value of defense is finally being appreciated in Flyaway Acres, Texas. Keep ’em off the bases and the long ball doesn’t bury you.

    Comment by Balthazar — December 21, 2012 @ 10:34 pm

  17. Why not Arizona? Maybe now is a good time to revisit the Upton trade. I don’t think Upton will truly be off the trading block if the right offer comes KT’s way. Olt is essentially MLB ready, too. Would Olt and Martin get it done?

    Comment by brunoneptune — December 21, 2012 @ 10:43 pm

  18. Problem of Olt to the Yankees is what would they deal for him? I don’t know what kind of package they could put together that would really entice the Rangers.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 6:55 am

  19. For the Orioles, it doesn’t make much sense right now to trade contributing pieces at the MLB level for a prospect. If this was a 70 win team, then fine, but they made the playoffs. Yes, it may have been a bit of smoke & mirrors, but the organization needs to enter 2013 whole.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:02 am

  20. On the surface, yes, but Teheran has a flat fastball he elevates too often. His stuff wouldn’t play particularly well in that park.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:03 am

  21. Thanks Paul. One of the most difficult aspects of writing about prospects is having contacts and taking their advice with a grain of salt at times. In thinking that through, I find it best to take the approach of a reporter and share information.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:06 am

  22. In all honesty, I don’t think Stanton is moved for less than Profar-plus. Olt, Perez and two, lower level top prospects is probably not enough.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:08 am

  23. DRM,

    When watching hitters take BP, the ball comes off the bat differently for each player. For example, watching Byron Buxton take BP, it’s difficult to follow the ball off the bat as it leaves the infield so much faster than other prospects. A Jurickson Profar BP session sounds like a series of mini-explosions. When you don’t see that from a top prospect, it sticks out. With Olt, generating BP power came with more effort than I was expecting.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:13 am

  24. The Cubs already acquired Villanueva from Texas. His game isn’t as sexy as Olt’s on paper, but he’s a plus defensive third baseman with the ability to be a .275/.285 player with 15-18 HR in his prime. That’s a valuable commodity.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:14 am

  25. It’s not unfair, but the Mariners have 0 motivation to make that deal. They already have many infield options.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:15 am

  26. Davidson is a nice internal option. With Johnson/Chavez and Davidson in the pipeline, 3B is not a pressing need for Arizona.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:17 am

  27. Andrus is a much more valuable commodity than Hultzen.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 22, 2012 @ 7:18 am

  28. What about the White Sox? Don’t they eventually have to get younger? Something that sends Konerko to Texas…

    Comment by Enkidu — December 22, 2012 @ 8:18 am

  29. Pretty sure the Rangers will be “competitive” with their current roster and no more upgrades…

    Comment by Mr. Jones — December 22, 2012 @ 10:13 am

  30. You, sir, are not a Mariner.

    Comment by Mr. Jones — December 22, 2012 @ 10:21 am

  31. Weird question: Has anyone ever traded a free agent the winter after signing them? Because I can think of some teams where he would fit well, but the deal would be trading someone they just picked up. Has this happened before?

    Comment by All Balls No Brains — December 22, 2012 @ 10:56 am

  32. What do you think of a Olt for Jesus Montero swap. The Mariners definitely need a young bat that can play any postion other than DH, the Mariner’s have Smoak at 1B, Morales at DH and Jaso/Zunino at C, so Montero is looking like he doesn’t have a home. The Rangers could move him to 1B/DH and he would probably be helped a lot by hitting at Arlington in that lineup.

    Comment by Preston — December 22, 2012 @ 11:23 am

  33. So should the Mariners be content with Ryan playing SS. Great defensive only goes so far when you can barely hit the mendoza line. The Mariners should’ve made a play on Stephen Drew.

    Comment by Robert — December 22, 2012 @ 11:54 am

  34. You could put an accelerometer in the BP bats.

    Comment by Tim — December 22, 2012 @ 1:13 pm

  35. Sounds like the perfect Twins player.

    Comment by Tim — December 22, 2012 @ 1:15 pm

  36. They need to trade him to Arizona for an outfielder, he can start in AAA for a year and then replace Chris Johnson (who can be shipped somewhere else). Arizona has way too many outfielders now. If Texas wanted they could make it an even larger package: ask for Matt Davidson in return while Texas sends back high ceiling pitching prospect(s)…that way Texas gets their future 1bman who is blocked by Goldy in the desert.

    Comment by Kinsm — December 22, 2012 @ 2:09 pm

  37. Something like Mike Olt, Luke Jackson, and Cody Buckel to Arizona, Justin Upton and Matt Davidson to Texas.

    That will leave Texas light on pitching prospects but that’s what it would probably take to pry away the 25 year old Upton and his 3 years of control.

    Comment by Kinsm — December 22, 2012 @ 2:31 pm

  38. Davidson is a future 1bman, Chavez is probably better suited for 2b…Johnson can be traded.

    Comment by Kinsm — December 22, 2012 @ 3:37 pm

  39. *excuse me, I meant backup (not sure why I wrote 2b). Olt can start in AAA for the time being.

    Comment by Kinsm — December 22, 2012 @ 3:41 pm

  40. Generally speaking, free agents can’t be traded until, I believe, after the amateur draft. There have been occasional exceptions designed to avoid draft-pick compensation, but usually sign-and-trade deals are a no go.

    Comment by Ian R. — December 22, 2012 @ 5:35 pm

  41. If you send Garza to the Rangers for Olt straight up………. to the Cubs………..who wins the deal? The Rangers could request the ability to work out an extension with Garza before the trade becomes complete.

    Comment by Givejonadollar — December 22, 2012 @ 10:10 pm

  42. Trade Olt?


    Comment by shthar — December 22, 2012 @ 11:01 pm

  43. The Rangers win that deal and it would cost more than Olt.

    Comment by Joe — December 23, 2012 @ 2:31 am

  44. Preston,

    I think it would take more than just Montero for Olt at this juncture.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 23, 2012 @ 11:33 am

  45. Robert, I like Brad Miller. He has the agility, range and arm strength to handle SS. The problem now is sloppy errors. If he can iron that out, he’ll be fine and produce offensively too.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 23, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  46. Davidson is a 1B why exactly?

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 23, 2012 @ 11:38 am

  47. Konerko would be a nice fit in Texas, but I don’t think it happens for Olt. Not when the Rangers could potentially sign a guy like LaRoche who is still available.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 23, 2012 @ 11:38 am

  48. That’s crazy talk, Your hypothetical deal isn’t nearly enough and the DBacks are flush with young pitching.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 23, 2012 @ 11:39 am

  49. Once again, the Cubs have Villanueva who I like as much as Olt. 3B is not a a real need there.

    Comment by Mike Newman — December 23, 2012 @ 11:40 am

  50. not as sure, given what the Angels have bought, and what the A’s are building, and what the Mariners are willing to spend for.. Texas needs to keep pace.

    Also, on the “do something to let the fans know we are trying”, they lost out on Grienke, Hamilton, Upton (either/both), and a few others, settling? on AJ Pierzynski..

    Merely “competitive” isnt gonna cut it in the AL-west

    Comment by Cidron — December 23, 2012 @ 12:21 pm

  51. two positions requiring similar skills defensively.. SS and 2b. Heard from multiple sources that the two players will be filling the positions (at the very least, to see how it works out).

    Comment by Cidron — December 23, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

  52. Not much power there

    Comment by Curtis — December 23, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

  53. As a Ranger fan who has kept up with the off-season feverishly, I have never seen anything close to “the Rangers want him to replace Hamilton”.

    Comment by l1ay — December 23, 2012 @ 1:54 pm

  54. “Has anyone ever traded a free agent the winter after signing them?”

    Let me ask Jeffrey Loria.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — December 23, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

  55. Konerko will never leave Chicago. Chicago will never trade konerko.

    Comment by CMF — December 23, 2012 @ 7:30 pm

  56. okay, we get it dude

    Comment by jim — December 23, 2012 @ 9:31 pm

  57. Garza for Olt + Perez + a top 20 prospect was a done deal according to David Kaplan the day Garza was hurt. I would imagine Garza if he proves healthy in spring training will be traded for a similar package considering the pitching market current value.

    Comment by Landon — December 23, 2012 @ 11:29 pm

  58. UMMM….

    Comment by BurleighGrimes — December 24, 2012 @ 1:16 am

  59. Olt’s Z-Contact of 68.4% is frightening. It’s pretty normal for a guy to chase pitches after a first call-up, but completely missing balls within the zone is much more concerning. Profar had a similarly bad batting average, but his Z-Contact% was 85.0%. Yes, small sample sizes, but it squares with my impression of Olt as having a questionable ability to make contact at the major league level.

    Comment by jdbolick — December 24, 2012 @ 10:45 am

  60. “Yes, small sample sizes”


    Comment by TX Ball Scout — December 24, 2012 @ 12:06 pm

  61. good,good

    Comment by kniwujun — December 24, 2012 @ 12:18 pm

  62. We don’t have to rely on MLB small samples.

    His Z contract rate at AA was 76%. THAT is alarming. And if you look at his SO rate looking versus swinging over time, the swinging strikeout rate increased when he moved up to AA, where it was already pretty high in the lower levels.

    Comment by Paul — December 26, 2012 @ 9:37 am

  63. Carlos Delgado

    Comment by Brad — December 27, 2012 @ 3:08 am

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