FanGraphs Baseball

Comments

RSS feed for comments on this post.

  1. Well Dunn, Hawpe, Bay, and Dye and pretty awful. Maybe Vernon Wells rounds out that disasterous group. Not sure if Griffey has played enough in the field to make it.

    Comment by yugert — November 2, 2009 @ 10:50 pm

  2. i’m assuming franklin gutierrez made the top 5

    Comment by everett — November 2, 2009 @ 10:58 pm

  3. Thank you so much for this.

    You took the two things that drive me crazy about people talking about UZR, and fixed them. If more people did analases using multiple years of UZR, less people would be turned off by the year to year discrepencies.

    The one thing you could do to improve this slightly, would be to weight more recent data more heavily. This would only slightly improve the data, and a 3 year total is incredibly better than a 1 year total. I’m excited to see if there are any surprises…

    Comment by lookatthosetwins — November 2, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

  4. Is there any chance three-year UZR data shows up on the leader boards? Easy enough to calculate it for any given player, much tougher to make comparisons.

    Comment by Kevin S. — November 2, 2009 @ 11:34 pm

  5. Any chance this can be done as UZR/150 (min XXX innings)? I’d hate to see Manny avoid infamy by being suspended for 50 games.

    Comment by The Iron_Throne — November 2, 2009 @ 11:49 pm

  6. And Carlos Gomez’s D is undervalued, as he has not played as much as most others on the list.

    Comment by Matt Walsh — November 3, 2009 @ 12:50 am

  7. Imagine if Delmon Young was a full time player as well. *shudders*

    Comment by Bryz — November 3, 2009 @ 1:11 am

  8. Top 5? Utley and Zimmerman have to be there. Maybe Pedroia and Polanco. Or perhaps Beltre knocks one of those guys off.

    Ichiro is probably the outfielder, though Winn or Crawford may have a shot.

    Comment by uhhhh — November 3, 2009 @ 1:21 am

  9. The outfielder is almost certainly Franklin Gutierrez. His season in CF was amongst the best of all time.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — November 3, 2009 @ 2:48 am

  10. There is a drop down box at the top of the leaderboards labeled “Month” that is for splits by month for most stats. There is also an option there to show the past 3 calendar years. The monthly splits aren’t there for fielding stats, but the multi-year options are. Also, for UZR, it is not the past 3 calendar years, just the last 3 seasons combined (which at this point is the same thing anyway).

    Comment by Kincaid — November 3, 2009 @ 5:15 am

  11. Vernon Wells is playing in the age of the defensive CF, his positional adjustment should get him out of this list.

    Comment by The Nicker — November 3, 2009 @ 9:14 am

  12. Congrats to Ibanez beating out Werth for best fielding outfielder on the Phillies this year. I heart you UZR.

    Comment by neuter_your_dogma — November 3, 2009 @ 9:56 am

  13. Theres zero chance Utley is on there. He tries hard, but is not close to the level that Jroll and Pedro play the field, and those two just missed the top 5.

    I would also be very surprised if Gutierrez was not the OF as well.

    Comment by jlong — November 3, 2009 @ 10:16 am

  14. Except that Utley’s UZR over the past 3 years is way higher than either Rollins’ or Feliz’ (and in Rollins’ case, by plenty to cover the difference in positional adjustment).

    Comment by Kincaid — November 3, 2009 @ 10:30 am

  15. Hardy, Longoria and Everett probably all have a decent shot as well.

    Comment by walkoffblast — November 3, 2009 @ 10:40 am

  16. Jayson Werth has had a few ridiculous UZR/150 seasons in RF, even though this year was less impressive. Could it be him?

    Comment by Rick — November 3, 2009 @ 10:44 am

  17. Yep, Utley is definitely going to be on there, considering he was 12th this year, 1st last year, and 11th the year before. Easily one of the 10 best fielders in baseball.

    Comment by Bill — November 3, 2009 @ 10:57 am

  18. A lot of Phillies love here…

    My guess for the outfielder question is CARL CRAWFORD.

    Comment by The A Team — November 3, 2009 @ 11:01 am

  19. I would have guessed Crawford but based on the guys he listed from OF in the top 20 I think it will be Gutierrez.

    Comment by walkoffblast — November 3, 2009 @ 11:11 am

  20. Maybe Gutierrez just slipped under my radar in past seasons, but did he get enough playing time in ’07 to find his way to a top 5 ranking? Maybe I’m not understanding the format because I thought the same thing when he mentioned Morgan.

    I also didn’t know about Crawford’s -1.2 UZR in ’07 so Gutierrez is probably right. UZR can be frustrating, how does a guy have seven seasons above 9.3 UZR/150 and five seasons above 11.8 and still manage to put up an empty -1.2 in ’07?

    Comment by The A Team — November 3, 2009 @ 11:27 am

  21. Being the person I am, I had to look this up myself. I promise no spoiler alerts. The bottom 5 have been covered fairly well, but one of the top 5 players hasn’t even been mentioned yet, probably because of his lack of playing time this year. I personally didn’t think of him, though everyone thinks of him as all-defense.

    Comment by LeeTro — November 3, 2009 @ 12:03 pm

  22. WOW! I totally didn’t think about him.

    Comment by Stephen — November 3, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

  23. Greg Maddux?

    Comment by Hejuk — November 3, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

  24. No Bourn or Beltran love?

    Comment by neuter_your_dogma — November 3, 2009 @ 1:47 pm

  25. I still do not think it is him but its possible. That RngR he put up in 2007 at his age had to be one of the more impressive performances under the circumstances.

    Comment by walkoffblast — November 3, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

  26. A couple of other names to mention that would probably rank highly… Omar Vizquel and Jack Wilson. I did some stuff over at my place on shortstops (albeit using UZR/150), so I’m fairly certain that these two would rank pretty high

    Comment by Steve Sommer — November 3, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

  27. Or I’m an idiot and didn’t notice Wilson in the original post. Yay me!!!

    Comment by Steve Sommer — November 3, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

  28. Endy?

    Comment by BlackOps — November 3, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

  29. In fact I wouldn’t we surprised if he were the number one fielder. ; )

    Comment by Toffer Peak — November 3, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

  30. Not even close. You have to earn your way onto a list like this, it’s not just given to you.

    Comment by Toffer Peak — November 3, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

  31. How did Jason Bay hit at a league-average level for a whole season?

    Fluctuations happen.

    Comment by Paul Thomas — November 3, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

  32. I haven’t looked this up, but I assume you mean Adam Everett.

    Comment by Paul Thomas — November 3, 2009 @ 8:51 pm

  33. Based on your clue, my best guess is Vizquel..

    Comment by Newcomer — November 4, 2009 @ 11:40 am

  34. It’s Jayson Werth, 07 and 08 were awesome seasons for him. CFs get punished in UZR. At least that’s what I found out after going over every outfield in the majors. Maybe, just maybe I should get a life.

    Comment by Cesar — November 4, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

  35. Actually Gutierrez also scored higher than Gomez, so maybe there’s a mistake by Mr. Carruth. I stand by my findings.

    Comment by Cesar — November 4, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

  36. Werth is actually 43rd on the list, or 32nd if you do not include the catchers, since they have no UZR. As much as CFs get punished in their UZR, corner OFs get punished even more by the positional adjustment.

    Comment by LeeTro — November 4, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

  37. Noting that Braun is a near miss for this list points out one other thing that needs to be tweaked in this analysis. I realize that you took into account position in the analysis, but much of what is dragging Braun down is the time he spent at third 3 years ago and those data must have been included. Over the last two years when he only played LF he hasnt posted a great UZR, but it doesnt approach the time he spent at thrid.

    Comment by Bryan — November 11, 2009 @ 10:28 am

Leave a comment

Line and paragraph breaks automatic, e-mail address never displayed, HTML allowed: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>


Close this window.

0.296 Powered by WordPress