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  1. #4 is a 30 year old relief pitcher. He has a 3.82 BB/9 in 30.2 IP in the majors (and his minor league walk rates are worse).

    Comment by Anon — January 11, 2013 @ 10:14 am

  2. A 30 Year Old reliever? I think this was meant for Not Graphs. How does this get past an editor?

    Comment by Halk Smash — January 11, 2013 @ 10:38 am

  3. Finally, the White Sox don’t have the worst farm system in the majors!

    Comment by Eminor3rd — January 11, 2013 @ 10:40 am

  4. I’m rather shocked to see Jim Henderson, and to a lesser extent Mark Rogers on this list. Especially seeing Henderson so high on the list. I’m also curious why Jean Segura was left off.

    Comment by SecondHandStore — January 11, 2013 @ 10:45 am

  5. if damien magnifico doesn’t make it as a baseball player, with that name he’s got a promising career as a professional wrestler or porn star

    Comment by johnnycuff — January 11, 2013 @ 10:53 am

  6. Agree that a 10 year minor league veteran who emerged as a relief pitcher should probably not be on a prospect list. Even if you stretch the word “prospect” to the limit, hasn’t he graduated out of the system? Also why include Mark Rogers but not Jean Segura?


    Comment by Flharfh — January 11, 2013 @ 11:09 am

  7. I can’t agree more than Nelson would be a much improved pitcher if he was stronger mentally. His confidence level seems to wax and wane significantly with the quality of his stuff (basically the sharpness of his slider). When he’s pitching well, he has that bulldog mentality and loves to attack hitters. When his stuff isn’t as sharp, he tries to nibble too much and his walk rate increases. Naturally it is easier to pitch when you have your best stuff, but it doesn’t seem to make much sense to me to change (whether intentionally or unintentionally) your pitching philosophy because you don’t have your premium stuff that start. With the good sink on his fastball, he should attack hitters regardless. He could induce a ton of groundballs out even if his slider isn’t spot on that day.

    Comment by Pinstripe Wizard — January 11, 2013 @ 11:09 am

  8. Jean Segura is not on the list because he is not rookie eligble. He has 151 at bats last season to be a rookie you have to have under 130 at bats.

    Comment by James — January 11, 2013 @ 12:09 pm

  9. Segura had 148 AB’s last year. The accepted threshold is 130 AB’s for rookie status.

    It’s also 30 relief appearances for relievers, as the 50 IP is too hard for them, so Henderson shouldn’t be here either….setting aside the fact that he’s 30 freaking years old and not from Japan.

    Comment by Kevin — January 11, 2013 @ 12:13 pm

  10. The threshold for prospects is also based on days on the active roster (not including September, October). I felt Henderson was close enough that I included him because he’s an interesting case… He’s older but he also has an outside shot of developing into a closer, which is why he’s higher on the list — his ceiling is a little lower than some of the others but he’s MLB-ready and pitching near or at his ceiling.

    Comment by Marc Hulet — January 11, 2013 @ 12:24 pm

  11. What about Khris Davis?

    Comment by Justin — January 11, 2013 @ 12:45 pm

  12. Thanks for the lists. Appreciate the work.

    An aside: Several of the lists have annoying variances in font size, sometimes from prospect to prospect, sometimes within a write-up, at least when viewed in Firefox. (#s 2, 5 and 15 above)

    Comment by jonkk — January 11, 2013 @ 3:25 pm

  13. The Brewers certainly don’t either. It is a deep farm system lacking in elite talent. There are other teams that lack pretty much any talent at all. 5 or 6 of these guys will be major league players, just none of them are likely to be a star.

    Comment by Ender — January 11, 2013 @ 4:04 pm

  14. I think the font differences are to differentiate between his writing and quotes. I have the same thing in Chrome.

    Comment by Ross B — January 11, 2013 @ 5:24 pm

  15. Hiram Burgos, Khris Davis and Jorge Lopez are the notable omissions in this list, when compared to others I’ve seen. I agree it’s strange to put Henderson on here, I also find it weird that you don’t see Peralta as the clear #1, but like the stance on Thornburg. You were pretty bullish on him last year IIRC. Also good to see that Jungmann is high up there, with the Brewers missing out on Fernandez, I’m really hoping that either Bradley or Jungmann reaches their mid rotation potential or the 2011 draft will look like another bust.

    Comment by Luke — January 11, 2013 @ 10:47 pm

  16. So take him out and move everyone below him up a notch. It’s not like whomever is #16 is going to get people excited as the new 15. Get over it, guys.

    Comment by ezb230 — January 12, 2013 @ 3:16 am

  17. Mark Rogers has been on this list since MVP ’05 for PS2 was the best game I’d ever played.

    Comment by Grand Admiral Braun — January 13, 2013 @ 5:38 pm

  18. A talent evaluator/scout I spoke with says this is a very clumsily written piece, with glaring issues (Henderson at #4? Peralta below Jungmann and Thornburg?) to say the least.

    Comment by Al — January 13, 2013 @ 7:43 pm

  19. A talent evaluator/scout I spoke with says this is a very clumsily written piece, with glaring issues, to say the least.

    Comment by Al — January 13, 2013 @ 7:43 pm

  20. A talent evaluator I know thinks Al doesn’t understand how to use the internet very well.

    Comment by chicken wings — January 13, 2013 @ 8:26 pm

  21. A talent evaluator/scout that I spoke with says that this was a well-written piece with solid scouting reports/backgrounds for each player and trusting your own views with Henderson as high as #4. This same talent evaluator/scout also saw Henderson pitch in the majors and he agrees he has potential closer with his excellent fastball/slider combo from a funky arm slot.

    Comment by Some Kind Fellow — January 14, 2013 @ 1:18 am

  22. A talent evaluator I spoke with begrudgingly read a free Internet prospect report that differed from his own opinions and poo-pooed it. I should ask my talent evaluator to rank all of the teams’ systems in depth and post it on a popular baseball site for comments and opinion. He’d fare very well, undoubtedly.

    Comment by Larry — January 20, 2013 @ 10:33 am

  23. Peralta should be number 1 on this list. Thornberg is destined for the bullpen.

    Comment by PBR — March 7, 2013 @ 2:33 pm

  24. Not just “a” wrestler. Coulter took eighth at state as a freshman (freshman placers are very rare, especially in the upper weights) then as a sophomore, he only lost one match all year en route to a state championship. Then he quit because baseball recruiters feared he would get hurt, but seriously, this kid was on his way to being a 4 time placer and a 3 time champion, which is damn near unheard of, ESPECIALLY from a kid who started his career as a 189 pounder. Seriously, epic athleticism.

    Comment by DAMellen — August 7, 2013 @ 2:25 am

  25. Thornburg made 7 starts in 2013.. check your stats. gave up 2ER or less in every single one

    Comment by twoseamers — January 13, 2014 @ 4:21 pm

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