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  1. I’d also like to see a comparison with average ticket price, but that’s a great view of Boras’s contention.

    Comment by Dan Rozenson — January 15, 2013 @ 11:11 am

  2. Boras is right about his overall point and the fact that MLB changed the FA compensation rules with one of the major intentions to suppress the FA market. Let’s not forget too that the owners have been proven to be proven liars time and time again regarding their finances. Often quite dramatically. They were a few years ago when financial statements were leaked to Deadspin, they were after the books were opened & audited during the ’94 strike, and during the collusion investigations in the early 80s.

    Boras did misjudge the market though and his clients are going to suffer as a result. I personally don’t like how Boras handles himself. Just never understand why so many fans are seemingly supportive of the owners over the players/agents.

    Comment by MG — January 15, 2013 @ 11:14 am

  3. What I’d like to see is a comparison chart of the divergence of revenue stream vs. employee salaries across other industries. I suspect that this phenomenon is not unique to baseball. Salaries of people in just about every industry seem to be flat over the last couple of decades.

    Comment by rustydude — January 15, 2013 @ 11:26 am

  4. You mean Scott Boras – a sports agent – would lie to people? Why? Whatever could his motivation be?

    Comment by MikeS — January 15, 2013 @ 11:40 am

  5. THIS!!!

    Comment by Dave S — January 15, 2013 @ 11:40 am

  6. Perhaps largely because media outlets (often directly owned and if not, most certainlt in partnerships with the leagues and this the owners) side with the owners. The best most media members have done, even with the NHL, is to say its both sides are at fault.

    (The NFL refs which eventually engendered support was perhaps an exception. And even then it took months for this to happen, and only when ESPN made it a big issue. I don’t think it was the reason why it was made an issue, but it should at least be pointed out that in this case the NFL as a business partner was acting against ESPN’s best interest in providing a watchable product, which is perhaps why news organization shouldn’t have such partnerships. Since, at thr very least, it suggests impropriety.)

    The fact that enough high profile players are delinquent in their personal lives doesn’t help either, as it makes it hard to empathize with them. Most owners stay out of the news besides labor disputes.

    Comment by Crumpled Stiltskin — January 15, 2013 @ 11:44 am

  7. Just because revenues are rising at a higher rate than salaries doesn’t mean owners are pocketing all that money. In case you haven’t noticed the price of things like gas, shipping, and food has gone up significantly in the past few years and, probably eat a larger chunk of revenue than they did a few years ago. The company I used to work for laid off nearly 10k workers in 2012 despite posting 6 straight quarters of record revenue, and supposedly plan to lay 6k more off this year.

    Besides all industries are going through a period like this, why should Baseball be any different?

    Comment by Jim — January 15, 2013 @ 11:45 am

  8. Ya weird !

    It’s like he epxects a completely perfect correlation between revenues and salaries. Newsflash, just because revenues are up, doesn’t necessarlity mean profits are. Expenses other than player salaries also go up. While probably not as much, there are other things to consider for these teams other than just player salaries as an expense.

    Not only that, but what part of the CBA states that players are allowed X% of MLB revenue? I honestly don’t know the answer to this question or if anything like this is even in place like there is in the NHL so if anyone knows… please advise.

    If revenues go down do you think Boras would be out there willing to have his clients take a pay cut to keep in line with declining revenues?

    Comment by Johnhavok — January 15, 2013 @ 11:53 am

  9. Just to add for the nth time, pure revenue has little to do with profits or available money for payroll other than being the starting point for a budget. You have to factor every expense into a business’ position to pay its employees. This isn’t to say the owners aren’t trying to maximize their share, because I’m sure they are, but the above graph doesn’t show a complete picture of a business’ ledger.

    Comment by Ben — January 15, 2013 @ 12:05 pm

  10. Too, I think there are different supply and demand curves for different tiers of players (haven’t crunched the numbers, just seems like a reasonable conjecture to me). The top-end players seem well compensated because their skill sets aren’t quitea as easy to duplicate or replace. But for more fungible assets (middle relievers, utility men, etc) I would think the fact that six other guys can do exactly what you can do would tamp down demand and by extension, their salaries.

    Comment by Jason B — January 15, 2013 @ 12:10 pm

  11. Looking at those revenue’s really puts things in perspective for me as a Blue Jays Fan. Rogers (which owns the Jays) reports quarterly revenue of over $3b, the entire MLB reports revenue of about $8B. The average MLB franchise has about $266m in revenues, Rogers does that amount in 8 days.

    The team payroll is financially immaterial to Rogers Communications.

    Comment by pg — January 15, 2013 @ 12:21 pm

  12. So basically, baseball is exactly like all other major industries, in that the vast majority of the revenue is used to compensate a very few executives while the actual workforce is left to starve. Or, in the case of the players (as opposed to the myriad other members of the team’s workforce), settle for six or seven instead of eight digits left of the decimal.

    Comment by olethros — January 15, 2013 @ 12:51 pm

  13. Exactly.

    I highly doubt that this gap is unique to baseball. I bet if you plotted out payroll to profit on Apple the gap would be even wider.

    Baseball is a business. Something we often forget.

    Comment by BJsWorld — January 15, 2013 @ 12:52 pm

  14. New stadiums create higher revenues but usually create more expenses (stadium debt) as well.

    It would be interesting to see the private financing costs for stadiums on the same graph as revenues and payroll.

    Comment by Anon — January 15, 2013 @ 12:56 pm

  15. The Braves are also locked into a bad, long-term TV deal.

    Comment by Andrew — January 15, 2013 @ 1:05 pm

  16. I’d also like to see a graph on payroll breakdown. I wonder how % of payroll devoted to, say, the five highest-paid players on each team has changed over the same period, and how inflation adjusted $/WAR has changed. Perhaps teams are spending more wisely, squeezing out the mid-range free agents and getting their production from pre-arb players and stars extended before they hit free agency.

    Comment by gnomez — January 15, 2013 @ 1:06 pm

  17. Don’t worry most people side with the players, you are so contrarian that you can’t see it.

    Comment by Jadevion — January 15, 2013 @ 1:15 pm

  18. These blogs aren’t doing that gap any favors either. All this prospect talk has finally caught on and teams are valuing prospects more than ever. Teams are giving up on seasons before they start. Teams pay a bunch of prospects the minimum and claim they are “building for the future”. Worked out well in Seattle so far, right?

    These rebuilding efforts last 5 years and then if the prospects turn out to be nothing more than prospects the team is back at square one and finds itself trying to buy a Josh Hamilton.

    Seems like for every Washington National type success there are 5 Pittsburgh Pirate type failures.

    But then again you can still profit quite a bit by losing in baseball…..

    Comment by Billy C — January 15, 2013 @ 1:17 pm

  19. Wendy, I’m usually a big fan, but I think your logic at the end doesn’t hold up. If revenues are rising and salaries should be tied to revenue (which we’ll take as given, though some good points in opposition are in the above comments), pointing out that revenue isn’t rising for some teams is irrelevant. Maybe it’s the teams “stepping up” that aren’t stepping up enough, but if you accept that higher revenue should translate to higher salaries, the plight of individual teams doesn’t matter.

    Comment by byron — January 15, 2013 @ 1:34 pm

  20. wages vs Productivity: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/speedup-americans-working-harder-charts

    wages vs profits: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-corporate-profits-personal-wages-2013-1

    Two Google searches.

    Comment by Carlton Clark — January 15, 2013 @ 1:38 pm

  21. It’s normal to expect payrolls to lag increases in profitability. The majority of compensation (dollars not contracts) is in the form of multi-year guaranteed contracts. Signing a player is more like buying a factory or a server rack than it is paying your employees, because of the high cost and long commitment. It might hurt players but teams need to control long term payroll while the economy struggles. MLB is a luxury/discretionary product that will suffer in recessions.

    Comment by B — January 15, 2013 @ 1:46 pm

  22. To single out the Orioles, their player development system, overseas scouting, and training complexes (including a new Domincan complex) has improved hugely over the past 5 years. To say the extra revenue isn’t Hong anywhere is shortsighted in some respects, and it shows an improved farm system. If teams like the Orioles kept filling major holes thru free agency, they’d be worse off than they ever were 5 years ago. Unless the team is going all in that particular year, free agency isn’t a good investment

    Comment by Dave in GB — January 15, 2013 @ 1:51 pm

  23. Shouldn’t Boras take his complaint to Bud Selig to get the luxury tax rates chanaged? Isn’t that really the ceiling holding down payrolls for most of his clients’ would-be buyers?

    Comment by payroll — January 15, 2013 @ 1:53 pm

  24. Boras is mad because he significantly misevaluated the market, I remember the majority of fans believed Soriano would struggle to land as good of a commitment as his 1 yr/14m deal with the Yankees with the caveat it only takes one crazy GM. The players collectively bargained for this system, they could’ve made a hard line against compensation but they decided to allocate their demands to other things, you can’t win everything, Boras just sounds childish…this is the rare case where you don’t hate the game, hate the players.

    Comment by brian — January 15, 2013 @ 1:53 pm

  25. While its great to see the overall trend, these numbers are highly skewed by the enormous tv deals that have occured recently, along with YES network. Having outliers of the Rangers, Angles, and Yankees removed will bring the overall numbers closer. It won’t eliminate the disparity (which is completely valid), but these extremely large deals will skew the data. I’d be very interested to see this broken down by teams.

    With plenty of teams with some money to use, and some quality Boras players left, the brinksmanship will be interesting to see play out.

    Also, the Mariner’s haven’t really cut payroll, they are trying to increase it. They just can’t sign or trade for the people they want.

    Comment by tdillon — January 15, 2013 @ 2:00 pm

  26. Wendy, as usual you present data in a way I find useful and insightful. Judging by some of the comments, not all readers agree. Maybe a chart showing total MLB payroll as a % of MLB revenue over time might inform the other readers.

    Total US wages as a percentage of the economy [GDP] have been falling for decades while US corporate profits as a percentage of the economy [GDP] are at record highs. Basically, corporations have been able to boost profits by paying employees less and less.

    Why should we expect MLB, no matter how much we Fangraphs readers love it, to be any different?

    Comment by Carlton Clark — January 15, 2013 @ 2:00 pm

  27. The only stadium that was solely privately financed was AT&T Park in San Francisco, and yes, the Giants pay approximately $20 million in debt service on the ballpark every year. No other team comes close.

    Comment by Wendy Thurm — January 15, 2013 @ 2:25 pm

  28. I don’t advocate a position one way or the other. I simply presented facts in light of Boras’s statements. In an overall sense, what he says is true. As for individual teams, some have added to payroll; some have cut back. What the commentors have said is also true: we need to look at costs and have those have risen over time.

    Comment by Wendy Thurm — January 15, 2013 @ 2:28 pm

  29. Look at the detailed payroll numbers in Maury Brown’s chart, which I linked to in the post. He tracks payroll for each team from 2000-2012. Revenue per team is harder to track. We usually find those numbers in the Forbes report in March.

    Comment by Wendy Thurm — January 15, 2013 @ 2:30 pm

  30. And there is is, Soriano signs with Washington for 2 years, 28 million with a vesting option for another 14 million for 2015.

    Same AAV, just 1 more guaranteed year than he would have had with the Yankees.

    Comment by Johnhavok — January 15, 2013 @ 2:35 pm

  31. Forbes has their revenue and player expenses data going back to 1998;I have 1998-2010 handy, here are the percentages:

    1998 53%
    1999 54%
    2000 59%
    2001 63%
    2002 65%
    2003 66%
    2004 59%
    2005 57%
    2006 55%
    2007 56%
    2008 57%
    2009 55%
    2010 54%

    To me– 2000-2004 looks more like, ‘what the hell was going on’ than the more recent years…

    Comment by Eric R — January 15, 2013 @ 2:53 pm

  32. I grabbed the 2011 Forbes data;

    2011 54%

    Comment by Eric R — January 15, 2013 @ 3:05 pm

  33. Splitting the data in half, I grabbed each years’ average revenue and pooled the teams that were above or below that line:

    YEAR TTL ABV BLW
    1998 53% 50% 57%
    1999 54% 54% 54%
    2000 59% 59% 60%
    2001 63% 65% 60%
    2002 65% 67% 64%
    2003 66% 70% 63%
    2004 59% 63% 54%
    2005 57% 63% 51%
    2006 55% 60% 50%
    2007 56% 61% 51%
    2008 57% 60% 54%
    2009 55% 56% 55%
    2010 54% 56% 51%
    2011 54% 60% 49%

    Comment by Eric R — January 15, 2013 @ 3:13 pm

  34. Forbes estimates also include Operating Income. If we split the data based on that instead [ie the teams with above average profits vs those with below average profits]:

    YEAR TTL ABV BLW
    1998 53% 44% 62%
    1999 54% 47% 62%
    2000 59% 54% 66%
    2001 63% 58% 71%
    2002 65% 60% 72%
    2003 66% 59% 74%
    2004 59% 52% 67%
    2005 57% 50% 68%
    2006 55% 51% 59%
    2007 56% 51% 65%
    2008 57% 52% 62%
    2009 55% 52% 59%
    2010 54% 49% 59%
    2011 54% 51% 60%

    Comment by Eric R — January 15, 2013 @ 3:23 pm

  35. You don’t really have any idea how a publicly traded company works, do you?

    Comment by Big Jgke — January 15, 2013 @ 3:34 pm

  36. Eric — Thanks for grabbing these figures. What are the percentages? Is that payroll as a percentage of revenue?

    Comment by Wendy Thurm — January 15, 2013 @ 3:37 pm

  37. it is ‘Employee Expenses’ as a percentage of revenue. I’m guessing that Forbes is adding in benefits and the like into the pot…

    Comment by Eric R — January 15, 2013 @ 3:42 pm

  38. ‘Soley’ is the key word there.

    The Cardinals borrowed ~$300M (~$65M public financing) for the new stadium (opened in 2006). As of 2009, they were paying ~$20M per year toward that debt.

    Comment by Anon — January 15, 2013 @ 4:45 pm

  39. …and that 20M mitigated the amount the Gaints would send to the league in revenue sharing – unlike the 7M rent they used to pay at Candlestick.

    Nevertheless, about Boris’s point.. he is correct. The “greed to win” hasn’t imputed the new revenues into player salaries yet. They will eventually, if human nature remains constant.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 4:58 pm

  40. “What the commentors have said is also true: we need to look at costs and have those have risen over time.”

    Not really. As a first order approximation, those other costs contribute zero to the marginal win. They’ll rise more or less in line with inflation.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 5:13 pm

  41. “MLB is a luxury/discretionary product that will suffer in recessions.”

    Maybe. Depends on what other complementary goods are out there. For instance, bus ridership might be considered a luxury compared to walking, yet probably not when compared to owning a car. Do you think bus revenue falls or rises during a recession?

    In any case, you’re missing the point entirely of Boras’ comments. Demand for baseball is up – output prices have increased – it’s only natural for factor prices of “scarce resources” to rise with them. It always does and always will. Also, it’s entirely possible for factor price increases to lead output prices if entrepreneurs correctly anticipate future shifts in demand, although I’d be hard pressed to think of an example of that ever happening.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 5:25 pm

  42. ugh! *Substitute Goods

    back to econ 101 for me.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 5:27 pm

  43. Good points.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 5:28 pm

  44. Boras knows this market better than any other person around, I’d suspect. His overall point is almost certainly not wrong, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t also “misevaluate” the current market for his unsigned free-agents.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 5:32 pm

  45. “Total US wages as a percentage of the economy [GDP] have been falling for decades while US corporate profits as a percentage of the economy [GDP] are at record highs.”

    Yet the Employee Cost Index continues on it’s linear rising slope. Of course, when they began to deviate significantly ABOVE TREND, the Federal Reserve engineered what they hoped would be a small recession in 2008.

    Be careful that you do an apples to apples comparison when analyzing GDP share. Varying compensation trends can trip up even seasoned economists/researches.

    Comment by Peter — January 15, 2013 @ 5:58 pm

  46. “[F]ront offices are now populated with people who are more interested in projecting a player’s future than they are with paying for an established track record,” writes Dave Cameron (today). And there you have it. We’re seeing big contracts to buy out arb years of young established stars; but otherwise it’s not so easy to pay really big bucks for projections.

    Seems to me, too, that part of the change in funding streams is that the “star power” of big names is less important than it used to be (except of course in LA).

    Returns in this business are shifting towards capital and away from labor. The most recent CBA was not a win for the players; my take is that the MLBPA, for obvious reasons, was too ready (under the circumstances) to sacrifice the interests of young players in favor of those of veterans.

    Comment by Mr Punch — January 15, 2013 @ 6:26 pm

  47. It’s interesting to me that in a year when the other three major leagues have all had contentious labor negotiations trying to limit the players to around 50% of revenue, baseball, where the players are generally considered the best off of any sport, has fallen well below that.

    Comment by Tim — January 16, 2013 @ 7:15 am

  48. Boras had Soriano opt out on $14MM for this year. He signed with D.C. for $14MM per year for two years and a likely unreachable vesting option for one more season. However, Soriano is only being paid $7MM this year and next, the balance will not be paid for several years later. So the constant dollar value of his income is less than $14MM per season played. Boras cost him money but is trying to paper over the fact.

    Comment by maqman — January 16, 2013 @ 11:30 am

  49. “pointing out that revenue isn’t rising for some teams is irrelevant”

    Yes, it is.

    Because of the way the CBA is structured, the top revenue teams can’t increase their salaries. The Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, etc, can spend $175M a year, whether they’re making 200M, or 2B a year in revenue.

    Because of the cap, all of the salary growth must come from the smaller market teams, and they’re the ones who aren’t seeing revenue growth.

    Comment by Synovia — January 16, 2013 @ 1:39 pm

  50. “They’ll rise more or less in line with inflation.”

    Some might, some might not. It’s worth a closer look. Just looking at the broader consumer market, some prices (gas, health care, education) have risen much faster than inflation, some prices have stagnated or are slightly reducing (a lot of electronics, for example). The demand for any particular item is affected by its price elasticity, the availability of substitutes or near-substitutes, etc. Which was kind of what I was getting at in my earlier post: I think there are a lot of substitutes available for a 7th inning middle reliever, which should keep their salaries in check. Not as many clear substitutes for a Joey Votto or Matt Kemp.

    Comment by Jason B — January 17, 2013 @ 2:56 pm

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