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  1. Has Fangraphs.com or another website looked into calculating playoff probability update? In other words, calculated win probability added for a regular season game multiplied by the game’s impact on increasing or decreasing a team’s probability of landing a playoff slot. I realize that a small number of plate appearances will have a disproportionately large impact on making the playoffs and that it would be very volatile with most of the statistic accumulated during the last 2 weeks of the season, but it might be fun to quantify it and see who ranked the highest.

    Comment by Detroit Michael — October 3, 2008 @ 3:00 am

  2. Geez, what happened to Roy Halladay? He must have gotten a ridiculous park-adjustment, because he’s now well behind Lee in WPA/LI.

    Comment by Steve — October 3, 2008 @ 12:52 pm

  3. David, your “park adjustments” are ridiculous. Do you simply use the average runs per game of the stadium or something? There’s no other explanation for the Ballpark in Arlington having roughly a 6.21 run environment. That would take a 130 park factor which not even Coors Field achieved in its prime. The effect is manifest to a lesser extent in Detroit—5.49? Really?—but is no less indicting.

    On the flip side, McAfee Coliseum and the Rogers Centre are not 3.96. That would take a 83 park factor on their parts. If you’re going to come up with such ridiculous figures, you’re far better off not using these so-called park adjustments. You’re not adjusting for park. You’re adjusting for the quality of the team that plays its home games in that park.

    Comment by The Edge — October 3, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

  4. Steve, it was the ridiculous “park adjustment” he gave the Rogers Centre. It essentially penalized all Blue Jays pitchers for being so good and having such a poor offense. Conversely, it rewarded Blue Jays hitters for the opposite reasons.

    Comment by The Edge — October 3, 2008 @ 12:58 pm

  5. Well, no, the same reasons is what I should have said. Basically, his park adjustments compare a team to itself.

    Comment by The Edge — October 3, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

  6. The Edge: As much as I like seeing Lee overtake Halladay, I have to agree that the Rogers Centre penalty seems excessive. I mean, A.J. Burnett actually has a negative WPA/LI. Now, I know his season wasn’t quite as good as it looked, but a guy who led the league in Ks and had at the very least an ERA+ of 106 was worth negative wins? That doesn’t seem right.

    Seems like what happened to the Indians in the 90s, when The Jake was tabbed as a hitters park simply because we had great offenses, even though if anything it rates as a very slight pitchers park, though it’s really pretty neutral.

    Comment by Steve — October 3, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

  7. For the park adjustments I’ve always used the “Quick Park Factors” described here:

    http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/article/quick_park_factors/

    Comment by David Appelman — October 3, 2008 @ 2:20 pm

  8. The Edge: excellent point.

    Yes, the park environment is based on the number of runs scored in that park. And, if you followed the link, you correctly surmised that if you happen to have a bunch of pitchers who happen to pitch great in the same park, that this depresses that run environment. Also as noted in the link, this is neither the best way to do this, nor the worst way. You believe however that while this may work out most of the time, the few times it doesn’t work really obfuscates things enough as to call into question the whole process to begin with.

    Let me think about it, and feel free to post additional relevant comments.

    Comment by tangotiger — October 3, 2008 @ 2:26 pm

  9. TheEdge: I elaborate more on my site, at post 3 (click my name).

    Feel free to continue the discussion there. You can do it here as well, but I don’t monitor the threads here as intently as on my own site.

    Comment by tangotiger — October 3, 2008 @ 2:57 pm

  10. Patriot has five-year regressed park factors already worked out for you:

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pw61LzBGxBeIVR4Z7ijG2Vg

    Comment by Sky — October 4, 2008 @ 4:10 pm

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