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  1. “How things would have played out for the Mets is less certain.”

    I thought it was pretty clear that the mets dodged a huge bullet there. Sure, it’s possible that they would have won the WS in 2000 with Griffey (and without Hampton/Benitez), but the draft pick compensation from Hampton’s departure led to them drafting David Wright. Instead of having Griffey’s horrendous contract in the 2000′s, they wound up with the best home-grown offensive player in their history.

    Comment by vivalajeter — February 8, 2013 @ 4:29 pm

  2. I think most clubs would prefer to win a World Series than draft a superstar who (as of 2013) has yet to lead them to one. Then again, I’ve read a lot of comments recently from Mets fans implying they prefer prospects to championships, so maybe it’s a New York attitude I just don’t understand.

    Comment by Rickettsia — February 8, 2013 @ 4:38 pm

  3. Another nixed trade was Barry Larkin to the Mets in 2000 for Alex Escobar plus. Larkin wanted an extension that the Mets wouldn’t give. The Mets arguably dodged a bullet, except when you look at what happened. They then traded Melvin Mora for Bordick, who proceeded to suck ass in the playoffs and world series. With Larkin, maybe the Mets win, plus they would have had Mora, who became pretty good. The Mets turned and traded Escobar for Roberto Alomar, which at the time, I thought was the greatest trade ever. Alomar aged ten years over night.

    Comment by db — February 8, 2013 @ 4:46 pm

  4. vivalajeter, that is a great catch, i had forgotten that that was the pick that netted them wright. thank you for your vigilance.

    Comment by Paul Swydan — February 8, 2013 @ 4:47 pm

  5. We’re not trading Pokey Reese and that’s final!

    Comment by Detroit Michael — February 8, 2013 @ 5:00 pm

  6. You could go a layer deeper even with the Braves/Cubs deal. Randall Delgado was a big piece in the Upton trade. If Delgado is gone and the Braves try to include a pitcher with control problems that missed all of 2012, the DBacks certainly may have made it away with more than Spruill, Ahmed, Prado, and Drury. Perhaps Teheran would have needed to be included, and the Braves would have been searching for a 5th starter this past offseason.

    Comment by Dan Ugglas Forearm — February 8, 2013 @ 5:02 pm

  7. Rick, I agree with you on that, especially since they wound up playing the Yankees in the WS that year. It would’ve been a double-win in that regard. But if you think it wouldn’t have been an awful move for the Mets, you really have to think that Griffey is the difference between winning and losing the WS that year. Maybe he would have been the difference, but I doubt it.

    Or maybe having a non-Benitez closer would’ve won the series for them.

    Comment by vivalajeter — February 8, 2013 @ 5:18 pm

  8. Completely understandable. The guy hit an inside-the-park HR and one over the fence at Fenway in the SAME GAME. Clearly, he is a monster at the plate and should be coveted for both his offensive and defensive skills.

    Comment by B N — February 8, 2013 @ 5:44 pm

  9. I was about to post the same thing! And I totally use pictures of Uggla’s forearms as my avatar.

    Comment by Wil — February 8, 2013 @ 5:59 pm

  10. Well done Paul. I’m loving the Vetoed Trades series.

    Comment by Northsider — February 8, 2013 @ 8:15 pm

  11. Us mets fans don’t prefer prospects to championships. We prefer prospects to keeping declining older players on teams that are gonna be below .500 anyway

    Comment by Will — February 9, 2013 @ 2:50 am

  12. Delgado, along with Prado, was that trade. I never understood Delgado for Dempster. The Braves dodged a bullet there. And who knows how the Upton deal would go down, if it happened at all, without Delgado.

    Comment by TKDC — February 9, 2013 @ 12:57 pm

  13. Don’t forget the vetoed “trade” of Rollie Fingers and Joe Rudi to the Red Sox for 2 Million Dollars in 1976.

    Comment by MikeP — February 9, 2013 @ 1:02 pm

  14. For those of us who watched the Mets that year, it’s a fairly tough sell to imagine having more success w/o Mike Hampton, who was incredible for them, esp. in the offseason. Having Griffey may have increased their chances of winning the WS by a couple of percentage points. Meanwhile, David Wright has already accumulated nearly 50 career fWAR. It’s insane to say that that production amounts to nothing b/c the Mets haven’t won a ring with Wright!!

    Comment by BurleighGrimes — February 9, 2013 @ 2:42 pm

  15. Finley knew exactly what he was doing there – too bad the Commissioner didn’t understand, and made what some think was a disastrous decision in the long run. Not a parallel case, of course.

    Comment by Mr Punch — February 9, 2013 @ 4:04 pm

  16. This is a great series. Very enjoyable. I hope it continues for some time.

    Comment by Ruki Motomiya — February 9, 2013 @ 4:12 pm

  17. Rick, this is a ridiculous comment. There is a phrase we Mets fans use, that the Mets are “where stars go to fade”. See Jason Bay for the most recent example, but Bret Saberhagen, Bobby Bonilla, Vince Coleman and many others fit the bill. To say that Mets fans prefer prospects to championships is stupid. We prefer prospects to overpaid, underproducing former stars that DON’T bring the championships they were hired to bring. The history of the Mets is littered with deals like trading a Scott Kazmir on the verge of making it to the bigs for a never-was like Victor Zambrano. Sure, Kazmir flamed out eventually, but he was a fine pitcher for a few years when the Mets really could have used a young stud in the rotation. /end rant.

    Comment by Trotter76 — February 9, 2013 @ 9:56 pm

  18. Speaking of the Mets, what about the deal Boston offered the Twins for Johan Santana of Jon Lester, Jed Lowrie, Justin Masterson and Coco Crisp. Oh that’s right, that doesn’t apply to this article only the Twins front office vetoed that due to not wanting to face Santana in their own league. At least they got Phil Humber, Kevin Mulvey, Deolis Guerra and Carlos Gomez instead from the Mets.

    Comment by Brian — February 10, 2013 @ 1:07 am

  19. Have you two ever met? You might be the same person.

    Comment by Baltar — February 10, 2013 @ 1:19 pm

  20. A Phil Nevin figure is still burned in effigy annually by the Padres.

    Comment by Hurtlockertwo — February 11, 2013 @ 10:02 am

  21. “The deal worked out for Texas as well…Dempster helped stabilize their rotation down the stretch.”

    Are you kidding me? Pitching to the tune of a 5.09 ERA is stability? LMAO

    Comment by Neal — February 15, 2013 @ 10:12 pm

  22. The Cubbies are goin all the way! This is the year, baby!

    Comment by Roger Lodge — February 16, 2013 @ 5:23 am

  23. Since Dempster would have left as an FA and Maholm would still be a Cub or would be traded elsewhere, the Braves would need to get a 4th AND 5th starter if Teheran were included in the Upton trade. IOW, it probably wouldn’t have happened.

    Comment by canigetahit — February 19, 2013 @ 1:17 pm

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