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  1. Sizemore put up “gaudy” numbers? 33 HR’s, 90 rbi and a .268 AVG count as “gaudy” these days (even with the 38 bags)?

    Comment by Kent — October 7, 2008 @ 1:23 pm

  2. Depends how you look at it. Nobody in the AL had a truly standout year, so gaudy in the AL this year is different than saying Bonds’ 2001-04 were gaudy. Plus, you’re using RBIs and Batting Average, which is virtually a no-no on this site. Sizemore finished 5th in WPA, 6th in WPA/LI, hit 33 HR, stole 38 bases, had an OPS right around .900, finished 2nd in the AL with a +50 baserunning score, and was decent in CF at +7 plays above average. Put together it might not be as gaudy as Albert Pujols’ seasonal line, but Sizemore had a great all around season.

    Comment by Eric Seidman — October 7, 2008 @ 1:28 pm

  3. I had Mauer and Sizemore virtually dead even around the 100 RARP mark after factoring in Clutch, Net Double Plays, and a pretty crude estimate of defensive value. If I had a vote, I’d flip a coin with the loser settling for second place.

    Comment by Ray — October 7, 2008 @ 1:57 pm

  4. “I cannot support the Grady Sizemore choice for the simple reason that I just cannot truly justify giving both the Cy Young Award and MVP to players on an 81-81 team.”

    Oh come on, that is some BBWAA logic right there. If you think Lee was more valuable, then say he deserves it ahead of Sizemore. But you can’t say they can’t win both awards because the Indians were only .500. That’s ridiculous.

    And Longoria isn’t getting more attention because he only played 122 games and finished 29th among AL position players in VORP.

    Comment by Vegas Watch — October 7, 2008 @ 2:18 pm

  5. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. Sizemore and Mauer were still more valuable than Longoria offensively and maybe defensively on a per game basis anyway, but there would have been a reasonable argument for a top five finish had he played 150+ games at this level.

    Comment by Ray — October 7, 2008 @ 2:38 pm

  6. I agree with Vegas Watch. It’s certainly possible that the most valuable non-pitcher and the most valuable pitcher played for a .500 team if the rest of the roster was well below average.

    I thought that Pedroia was the AL MVP but Pizza Cutter’s article was a bit dismissive of that viewpoint, choosing to comment on Pedroia’s height. I started with VORP, adjusted for the run value of Fielding Bible’s plus/minus number of plays, and Pedroia was a close second in the AL to Cliff Lee. Lee faced weaker than average competition and made his contributions in a less valuable context considering his team was a long way out of play-off contention for most of the season, so I didn’t have a problem bumping Lee down to third on my ballot. Pedroia also was among the league leaders in WPA, which of course weights performance based on the context of contributing to wins. I’m not saying that my logic was the only reasonable argument and Pedroia MUST by AL MVP, but I do think it was one reasonable conclusion.

    Sure, I’d like to participate in future balloting — I already prepare my views for the Internet Baseball Award balloting. However, I’m just an avid baseball fan, not a blogger.

    Comment by Michael — October 7, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

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