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  1. Is there really such a thing as “really good ones who do a number of things well” that aren’t elite?

    Comment by That Guy — March 8, 2013 @ 2:28 pm

  2. You don’t think Tigers fans remember Huff? Is that so?

    We don’t remember him joining the team and hitting .189/.265/.302 in 40 games down the stretch? We don’t remember him soflty grounding out to the second baseman in almost every single AB as the Twins caught up to us, forcing the one-game playoff that we lost 6-5 in 12 innings?

    And then Detroit fans didn’t remember Huff as a Tiger when he went on to finish 7th in the MVP voting the very next year, leading a different team to a championship?

    Go ahead and speak for yourself, Matt, but don’t say that you doubt we remember Aubrey Huff. That would be ridiculous.

    Comment by Dan — March 8, 2013 @ 2:39 pm

  3. Tigers fans have no reason to be bitter. You’ve at least been to the World Series twice, not to mention you have the best pitcher in baseball and a guy that just won the triple crown. Talk to a Pirates fan about Derek Bell and “Operation Shutdown”, or Jose Bautista. Bring up ROD FREAKING BARAJAS or TWENTY STRAIGHT LOSING SEASONS. Maybe then you’ll know what bitter is.

    Comment by rotowizard — March 8, 2013 @ 3:39 pm

  4. Huff always seemed to me to be a player who could have really benefited from PEDs, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. That is, outside of his few seasons where he put it all together, for much of his career he always seemed to be just 10 points (20-80 scale) on a skill dimension or two away from being a really great hitter.

    Don’t get me wrong, he had a very nice albeit inconsistent career, but he’s one of those players who I think will be remembered for as much of what he didn’t achieve as for what he actually did. Which is perhaps unfortunate, because at his best he was a very good hitter, just not consistent from year-to-year. For so many years in his late 20s, it always seemed like he was on the brink of being a perennial All Star, but he never really gained any consistency before he was derailed by a steep age-decline and injuries in his mid-30s. Obviously grateful for his contributions to the two World Championships (especially 2010).

    Comment by walt526 — March 8, 2013 @ 3:46 pm

  5. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a WAR graph with such drastic spikes up and down like that. There was no mention of his anxiety disorder in the article, but I wonder if that might have actually begun earlier than previously noted, and somehow contributed to some of the down years…

    Comment by harperhill — March 8, 2013 @ 4:28 pm

  6. David DeJesus in his prime comes to mind; slightly above average in several areas, but not outstanding in any single facet.

    Comment by Ryan — March 8, 2013 @ 5:42 pm

  7. As a Giants fan I’ll always love Huff, 2011 and 2012 be damned. 2010 was so special that nothing will mar it.

    Thanks for the memories, Huff. Enjoy the million Bud Lights you’ll drink in retirement.

    Comment by Evan — March 9, 2013 @ 12:35 pm

  8. Don Buford, IF-OF for the White Sox in the 60’s, was the very personification of that description. He literally did every single thing you can think of well, but was not an elite player.

    Comment by Baltar — March 9, 2013 @ 12:51 pm

  9. Let me state for the record that I am not making any accusations against Huff, but his incredible and inexplicable breakout season when past his prime in 2010 does fit the profile.

    Comment by Baltar — March 9, 2013 @ 12:55 pm

  10. The WAR graph would have been even more dramatic if below 0 had not been cut off.

    Comment by Baltar — March 9, 2013 @ 12:56 pm

  11. I’ve had a few “this is why I like this site” moments this week, and this is the best of them.

    I make a half-ass joke and two respondents dare to take the bait, and successfully I might add. I guess I should have thought of DeJesus – but a MI type from the 60’s with a career OBP above .360? Nice.

    Well done, sirs.

    Comment by That Guy — March 10, 2013 @ 3:09 am

  12. Perhaps its because so much of his career was on struggling Rays and Orioles teams, but I had no idea how entertaining a person Huff was until he came to the Giants. Its part of why I can never dislike the man, no matter how much he struggled the past two years, and how infuriating it was when Bruce Bochy benched Belt to play him.

    From his tongue-in-cheek “best athlete on the team” text to Bochy after the slowest triple ever, to the Red Rally Thong that should have gotten its own 2010 World Series ring, and the wonderful bromance with Pat Burrell, he was truly one of the most entertaining personalities on a team full of them.

    We’ll miss you Aubrey!

    Comment by Ben — March 10, 2013 @ 5:33 pm

  13. Could nagging injuries explain the inconsistency? Mid-career Vernon Wells comes to mind…

    Comment by DrEasy — March 11, 2013 @ 3:07 am

  14. This is not a bitterness contest. It is true that the Tigers went to the World Series this year and got destroyed (by Huff’s team), but every time the playoffs slip away like they did in 2009 is tough to deal with. I would agree with Dan that most Tigers fans remember Huff’s disastrous time with the team and all those weak ground balls. On the other hand, the Tigers knew what they were getting when they traded for him, and the fact that he continued to play despite that awful line is the fault of Leyland and management for not providing him with any better options.

    I hated seeing him play in a Tigers uniform, but it was so short a time that I don’t really get too worked up about it.

    Comment by ari — March 11, 2013 @ 2:03 pm

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