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  1. Milwaukee doesn’t have a five-country metropolitan area! Last time I’m ever reading this site!

    Comment by RMD — March 20, 2013 @ 1:40 pm

  2. Are the owners of the Padres not spending more because Padres fans don’t go to the ballpark, or are Padres fans not going to the ballpark because the team isn’t good, a result of the owners not spending more? What came first, the chicken or the egg?

    Comment by Bryan — March 20, 2013 @ 1:42 pm

  3. Far as I can see, Milwaukee has a four-county MSA (these lines were redrawn last month) but a ten-county DMA.

    Comment by Mr Punch — March 20, 2013 @ 2:01 pm

  4. Needs more outrage via Caps Lock and Exclamation Points. I don’t believe that you will never read this site again.

    Comment by AJB — March 20, 2013 @ 2:21 pm

  5. You’re dinging the author on a simple spelling error?

    Comment by rustydude — March 20, 2013 @ 2:22 pm

  6. I’m gonna guess sarcasm..

    Comment by TimBrownU — March 20, 2013 @ 3:27 pm

  7. LOL

    Comment by tommy — March 20, 2013 @ 3:28 pm

  8. The Astros have a $20 million payroll??? Really?? That wouldn’t pay ARod.

    Comment by Hurtlockertwo — March 20, 2013 @ 3:44 pm

  9. and $5 mil of that is money owed to Wandy Rodriguez from his trade.

    Of their 40 man roster, I am counting 5 players who will be paid more than league minimum, and they all either are free agents at the end of the year or have club options. It is possible the Astros could have a $10 million payroll in 2014. I’m not sure how much that is in Altuves.

    Comment by tylersnotes — March 20, 2013 @ 4:26 pm

  10. what would have to happen for the tv bubble to burst by 2014?

    Comment by tylersnotes — March 20, 2013 @ 4:29 pm

  11. Ouch. That TV deal is a killer for the A’s. And they are stuck in it for another 10 years?

    Comment by Chris — March 20, 2013 @ 4:29 pm

  12. somebody gets too close to it with a needle

    Comment by jim — March 20, 2013 @ 5:25 pm

  13. One of these things is not like the others. I understand that the Major League product for the Astros is terrible at the moment. I understand that Crane took on considerable debt to buy this team. But considering the local TV deal, the national TV deal, revenue-sharing, tremendous local corporate revenue streams, and extremely low payroll liability (don’t the Astros have to have the lowest payroll liability in the history of the league???), I’m really not convinced that the Astros financial health is worse than most of the teams we’ll read about tommorrow.

    Comment by Terence — March 20, 2013 @ 5:25 pm

  14. Hard to believe that Braun will be Milwaukee’s 4th highest paid player next year too. I don’t know what he’s been using to help him on the field but I sure am grateful for whatever drugs he takes when it comes round to signing new deals with the Crew!

    Comment by Klements Sausage — March 20, 2013 @ 6:39 pm

  15. The Padres have spent less money than every team in baseball since 2009, by a considerable margin. The attendance is still ~26k. The fault does not lie with the fans.

    Comment by Marver — March 20, 2013 @ 6:50 pm

  16. The Bucs 2013 payroll will be closer to $62 million a team record. Team president Frank Coonelly got a lot of flack for saying that payroll would go up when attendance goes up, but so far they are making good on that premise. In addition, owner Bob Nutting has provided resources for adding payroll at each of the last two trade deadlines. This isn’t the same old Pirates of 1993-2007.

    Comment by Pirates Hurdles — March 20, 2013 @ 7:53 pm

  17. I think this isn’t about the on field Pirate product, but rather the finances.

    Comment by piratesbreak500 — March 20, 2013 @ 11:12 pm

  18. It says a lot when it’s a big deal (in Pittsburgh) that the Pirates outbid the Yankees in a 2/17 deal.

    Comment by piratesbreak500 — March 20, 2013 @ 11:13 pm

  19. I thought that Pittsburgh wasn’t a small market?

    Comment by Ruki Motomiya — March 21, 2013 @ 3:14 am

  20. If Pittsburgh are really pirates should there finances not be described as “booty”?

    Comment by Le Vagabond — March 21, 2013 @ 3:43 am

  21. The chicken. It’s science, pure science.

    Comment by Tornadothor — March 21, 2013 @ 5:45 am

  22. I draw your attention to the AAV to payroll ratio. These teams spend at least 2 times their local TV revenue on salary, in some cases almost 5 times. All except the stingy fucks who own the Padres. Want to know why that team always sucks? Because ownership is pocketing money that other clubs are spending on players.

    Comment by Tanned Tom — March 21, 2013 @ 6:21 am

  23. The egg fooo!!! Can’t have a chicken without the egg!! And Padres stop harassing me to buy tickets just because i’ve been down there a few times.

    Comment by DodgersKingsoftheGalaxy — March 21, 2013 @ 8:16 am

  24. The trade of Adrian Gonzalez still seems unnecessary. Not sure what they were thinking there.

    Comment by Ivan Grushenko — March 21, 2013 @ 12:28 pm

  25. My first reaction to the article as well. Assuming TV deals stay in the range they currently are, that’s just crushing when they’ve got to compete with teams bringing in 10-times as much.

    Comment by rageon — March 21, 2013 @ 1:23 pm

  26. Wouldn’t revenue sharing also be a pretty big chunk of what these small market teams have each year? Or is that part of the public information that doesn’t have enough detail to include?

    Comment by Johnhavok — March 21, 2013 @ 2:48 pm

  27. The Mariners opting out of their current TV deal with an eye to cashing in in ’15? Though I actually expect the bubble to burst right after the M’s have used anticipated revenues from a freshly-signed media deal to sign a bunch of pricey free agents, leaving them to try to collect pennies on the mega-dollar from a bankrupt RSN. Whatever the details, you can be sure the final sign of the incipient sports money apocalypse will be the Mariners appearing to be in position to compete with LA and Texas on an even financial footing.

    Comment by joser — March 21, 2013 @ 3:21 pm

  28. The Houston market is one of the 10 largest is the US, which certainly doesn’t hurt in the long run.

    Comment by And More — March 21, 2013 @ 4:32 pm

  29. Here is the big difference: the two teams on this list that recently changed owners are the Astros and the Pads. Coincidentally, that TV AAV ratio (which is also precluding other revenue streams by the way) you reference is lowest on those two teams. Why? I assume because of the debt acquired to purchase those teams (like a mortgage if you will). Crane in Houston can lose whatever the team can afford and not worry about it but not so for groups like the Pads. Those investrs want their money back ASAP. Once that debt is paid off, you should see some improvement but that will be years still.

    Comment by Richard J — March 22, 2013 @ 3:15 am

  30. “don’t the Astros have to have the lowest payroll liability in the history of the league???”

    The short answer is no, and the long answer is no way. Salaries are a lot higher than they’ve been, even adjusting for inflation — go back a couple-three decades and payroll liabilities will be lower.

    They aren’t even going to be the first team whose combined salary is less than that of a single player — in 1997 the Pirates made $9 million total while Albert Belle made $10 million.

    They might have the lowest percentage of total league payroll in the history of the league.

    Comment by matt w — March 22, 2013 @ 8:49 am

  31. Adrian Gonzalez was in the last year of his contract, the Padres weren’t going to outbid everyone for his services on the free-agent market, and they weren’t going to be competitive that season anyway — they went 71-91 and Gonzalez wasn’t getting them to .500. So they traded him for good prospects. It was a smart baseball move.

    Comment by matt w — March 22, 2013 @ 8:54 am

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