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  1. Hopefully Navarro doesn’t turn out like Soto. And such.

    Comment by Steve — June 11, 2013 @ 1:22 pm

  2. Man Rule #1: Never acknowledge past mistakes

    Comment by Wub — June 11, 2013 @ 1:33 pm

  3. Cubs are making a huge mistake by not letting Ian Stewart start at third.

    Comment by Jeremiah — June 11, 2013 @ 1:43 pm

  4. It might be worth looking at Valbuena’s plate discipline numbers using Pitch F/X stats rather than BIS, as there appears to have been a significant change in BIS’s definition of the zone between 2009 and 2010. E.g. league average Zone% dropped from around 50% in 2008 and 2009 to 45-46% from 2010-2013, while Pitch F/X shows no such change. BIS O-Swing and O-Contact jumped in 2010 as well, suggesting that the BIS zone got smaller.

    Comment by Paul Clarke — June 11, 2013 @ 2:42 pm

  5. Good points.

    Comment by Bradley Woodrum — June 11, 2013 @ 3:48 pm

  6. If this were some kind of playoff race, I’d hope the Cubs would give more playing time to Navarro but I think they still owe Castillo a shot given all the time he had to spend as a back-up or in AAA when the Cubs wouldn’t quit on Soto.

    Comment by subtle — June 11, 2013 @ 5:24 pm

  7. Obviously! I just read this long article on Fangraphs about how bad Luis Valbuena has been this year.

    Comment by Jamie — June 11, 2013 @ 6:19 pm

  8. This is not meant to be a snarky comment about this particular decent and honorable mea culpa about these particular prospects. But please. Fangraphs – and everyone else in the pseudo-scientific “field” of higher baseball analytical forecasting – are always getting things wrong in the predictions department, often dead wrong. How could it be otherwise? Everything you do is based on classic inductive after the fact analysis and reasoning and nothing more. But at least for some of us, your predictive abilities (or lack of same) have nothing to do with why we love and appreciate what you do and why we are devoted fans and readers of yours. You are brilliant baseball analysts, critics and reviewers in exactly the same way that we have brilliant literary, art and cultural critics. Your observations deepen and widen our appreciation of the game every day and make it more fun to watch – every day. Of course I understand that the gigantic rise in the Fantasy baseball phenomenon makes incessant tea-leaf gazing an essential part of your gig. But apologizing for being wrong? Fuggedaboutit! For what truly matters to baseball fans, even on your worst days you guys are always far, far more right than wrong.

    Comment by BillyBeaned — June 11, 2013 @ 6:31 pm

  9. maybe this goes against the votto narrative but dioner hit surprisingly well last year, too, both in AAA and in a bit of time in the majors for the reds at the end of the year, to the point where i actually picked him up and used him in a fantasy league last september.

    i’ve always thought valbuena was an odd duck, since he put up really good offensive numbers for a middle infielder in the minors at really young ages but then was truly beyond-words bad in the majors, often in the same season. i now idly speculate that part of it might be some physical maturity finally kicking in for him, combined of course with lessons of experience

    Comment by wily mo — June 12, 2013 @ 12:55 am

  10. You totally nailed it on his defense, though, Brad. It’s every bit as bad as you warned us it would be. Good arm, but that’s really about it.

    Comment by John Arguello — June 12, 2013 @ 10:30 am

  11. These two would make for some exciting last name turned into verb phrases though…
    ” Segura trying third…He is OUT! Man, he got navarroed by that throw”
    ” Braun swings, line drive to lef…..OH, Braun just got Valbuenaed on that line drive!’

    Yes, it is very boring at work this morning

    Comment by Shawn — June 12, 2013 @ 11:35 am

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