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  1. OF Fernando Martinez is Dominican.

    Comment by sir_nomar — December 29, 2009 @ 1:10 pm

  2. Ummm not a bad list, but where is Reese Havens, i think if u omit Tejada and replace him with Havens it would be much more reasonable. Must be a brain fart cuz Havens is top 5 in my books.

    Comment by Superman — December 29, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

  3. Yeah, I think it’s a big mistake to omit Havens.

    Comment by Jeff — December 29, 2009 @ 1:42 pm

  4. I had the same top six in my last back in September at THT. But I agree, I think you need Reese Havens here (especially over Tejada).

    Comment by Pat — December 29, 2009 @ 1:55 pm

  5. Agreed. He’s probably the starting 2B in 2011.

    Comment by Dan — December 29, 2009 @ 1:57 pm

  6. Nice list. I could see F-Mart, Niese and Thole helping out the Mets this season. I’m most excited to see how Mejia fares next season.

    Comment by CaseStreet — December 29, 2009 @ 2:05 pm

  7. F-Mart is Dominican, and I don’t understand how Havens is not on this list, thats a terrible omission.

    Comment by NM — December 29, 2009 @ 2:05 pm

  8. I think FMart and Thole have ETAs of 2011, effectively. The Mets need both of them to get time in AAA; FMart to regain confidence/value, and Thole to improve as a catcher.

    Comment by Dan — December 29, 2009 @ 2:19 pm

  9. the number of KKK mets fans is incrising every day

    Comment by augustin — December 29, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

  10. Havens is in the 11-12 range. He doesn’t have a position and he’s hitting .247 over his two-year career.

    I regret the Martinez hiccup and will have that corrected.

    Comment by Marc Hulet — December 29, 2009 @ 3:19 pm

  11. Can someone please explain to me why the mets signed Blanco, Coste and are pursuing Molina? What is wrong with putting Thole and Santos out there and using the money to fill blatant holes that still exist, like 1b, rf (well, they think they are set) and a high risk, high reward starting pitcher, most of whom are already signed.

    Comment by MetsFan — December 29, 2009 @ 3:31 pm

  12. Check Havens’ BABIP and luck adjusted stats. And he has a position, 2b.

    Kylen Allen will be in the Mets top 5 next year.

    Comment by fire jerry manuel — December 29, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

  13. a 240 hitter in Single A probably doesn’t belong on a top ten list. He has time to develop but to project him a ML player in 2011much less a starter is a little optimistic.

    Comment by R U Kidding — December 29, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

  14. Definitely has a low BABIP, which is the only reason why he gets consideration for the 11-12 range, and isn’t ranked in the 15-20 range. I’d like to see him at second a little longer before I agree that he can stick as the everyday guy at the keystone in the Majors. Interesting player to watch but not Top 10 in my opionion (which is actually a good thing for the system, by the way… it has some depth).

    Comment by Marc Hulet — December 29, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

  15. Metsfan,

    The mets are loading up on catchers, but it’s a position that tends to be injury prone, so it’s not a terrible idea to carry an extra 1 or 2.

    My take is that the mets aren’t crazy about Santos. If they sign Molina then they may shop Santos.

    As it stands right now, they have Santos/Blanco on the opening day Roster. Coste is catcher #3 and Thole #4. That’s not too many at all.

    If they sign Molina, then it’s a little crowded, and Santos probably starts in AAA if he’s not moved. (I’m not crystal clear on Santos’ options)

    Coste is a minor league signing / injury callup guy and that was a good signing. Guy’s like that are useful. I think the mets plan on using him to mentor Thole.

    I think Blanco was a good signing too because Santana likes him and because he’s a good defensive catcher (better than Santos). Looking at his numbers, Santos looks like an adaquate catcher, but I don’t think the mets liked his D and his minor league stats suggest that his hitting could take a turn for the worse next year.

    On Molina – fan feelings are mixed and some say that 2/12 is overpaying, but he brings something to the plate and I think he’d improve the mets offense a bit.

    Finally on Thole, the mets want to give him a full year in AAA. Nothing wrong with giving prospects time to develop, especially since Thole is still learning the position. Everyone I’ve talked to says it’s smart to give Thole a year in AAA.

    Hope that wasn’t too long, but, I actually like the mets catcher signings so far. Cheap signings / added depth. On Molina? I’ll let you know when it happens.

    Comment by Ed — December 29, 2009 @ 6:34 pm

  16. He had 97 PA in 2008 and his low average from this past year was a result of a poor .275 BABIP.

    His plate discipline and power are very good for a middle infield prospect. Definitely a top 10 guy in my eyes, but agree to disagree I guess.

    Comment by NM — December 29, 2009 @ 6:52 pm

  17. Youre really judging Havens by his Batting Average? Come on Marc, you should know better than that, his BABIP was .275 last year, which is terrible. Reese can also take a walk or two and had a .361 OBP even with a .247 average. If Havens only plays average Defense at second base his bat will make him a solid regular, as he can hit for power and draw a walk.

    Comment by Superman — December 30, 2009 @ 7:17 am

  18. Allen and Havens are both better prospects than Tejada, who projects more as a utility infielder.

    But it is nice to not have to reach to find enough guys to fill out a top 10 for a change.

    Comment by Joe A. — December 30, 2009 @ 9:21 am

  19. Thole is not ready to catch in the major leagues yet. His bat is okay, but it isn’t good enough to justify sacrificing defense at such an important position to get him in the lineup. And Coste, Santos and Blanco are back-ups at best.

    Comment by Joe A. — December 30, 2009 @ 9:25 am

  20. isnt it hard to believe fmart is only 21 we have been talking about this guy for years it feels like. at 21 no one should give up on a guy who clearly has talent, just needs to stay healthy, stay confident and have a dominant year , and you will see him jump to the top of the overall prospect list. on a totally different front i saw a rumor floated of a trade proposal king felix for david wright. i think believe it or not i would do it. felix is still only 23, wright has shown an uncanny ability to fail in the clutch for two or three seasons, and i thnk if we got felix behind santana, sign adrian beltre, wed be a better team then we are now. i want to love david wright,and i know hes a guy who had bad year as far as power and there are many reasons fo it, but its hitting in the clutch that kills me, he had a lot less on his mind in his first two years when he was mr clutch, now hes a guy who in my gut i dont like seeing up there in a big spot , i swear there were many times id rather have seen omir santos up there or even that other heavy weight back up catcher we had then wright . i think he puts so much presssure on himself and i dont know if that will change, while throwing santana and felix out there would be scary. it would be hard to pull the trigger and the mets would never do it, hes there poster boy but id have to say if it were my call i make the deal.

    Comment by lindro — December 30, 2009 @ 9:54 am

  21. A buddy of mine played in venezuela with Thole this winter. He says Thole is coming around on D. I am completely for giving him one more year in the minors to work behind the plate and develop his power. My buddy says he is something special, and as a Met fan I will certainly enjoy him. He says his plate dicipline with two strikes is better than anyone he has ever seen. I say sign Molina if you’re so inclined, but bring Thole up in 2011 to learn. Get him set up as someone’s personal catcher at the least, or platoon them.

    Comment by Mike — December 30, 2009 @ 10:50 am

  22. Mike, Thanks for your post, it is great to hear positives about Josh from people in the business. I too liked alot of what I saw in September and was thrilled to see him do so well with the stick in Venezuela. One thing I really hope is that he not get rushed out of need like so many other Met prospects have. He has only 2 years experience behind the plate and I’d love it if he came up for good when he is ready behind the plate too. Thanks for the update. Much appreciated

    Comment by t agee — December 30, 2009 @ 11:41 am

  23. “Although some have already, it is far too early to give up on Martinez. Just 21 years old, the Dominican outfielder just needs to have a healthy season.”

    And all I need to fly is a pair of wings. Any day now…

    Comment by Mr. Name — December 31, 2009 @ 1:55 am

  24. Congratulations! You have just won the Pointless Post Award.

    Comment by R M — January 25, 2010 @ 10:11 pm

  25. Marc, there is some good analysis here, but there is one sentence about Fernando Martinez that just doesn’t make sense:

    “At the MLB level, he was over-matched and hit just .176/.242/.275 in 95 at-bats.”

    Martinez had a .197 BABIP, and struck out just 15% of the time. He was anything but overmatched, unless you count luck as one of his opponents.

    Comment by R M — January 25, 2010 @ 10:14 pm

  26. I like Havens with the walks and power, but we don’t know quite how flukey the low babip is yet. Tejada wOBA’d near .350 at AA at 19, and he is 3 years younger than Havens. And Tejada can handle ss. He doesn’t have much power, but he still might end up an above average ss. I can understand preferring Havens, but it isn’t cut and dried.

    Comment by wobatus — February 6, 2010 @ 10:13 am

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