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  1. Totally agree here Matt. I myself was looking at Pie-for-Dan Uggla and was really excited given their logjam in the outfield. Alas, that will not happen.

    Comment by Michael — December 28, 2009 @ 4:44 pm

  2. Have the Orioles tried Reimold at 1st?

    Comment by John — December 28, 2009 @ 4:45 pm

  3. How many articles written before his call up predicted Reimold to be a weak defensive outfielder? He was thought to have a good enough arm to play RF in the minors and was always regarded as a good athlete.

    Beyond the box score’s 5/20/09 article on him had him as average to slightly below average defensively. “Along with a good eye comes average speed and average defense. In a very limited sample size, he has a +0.3 UZR in left field and was average to slightly below average defensively in the minors. In other words, he won’t kill you out there, but you won’t be confusing him for Carl Crawford anytime soon.”

    Even UZR had most of the defensive hit due to Range, with positive arm. He was playing with an Achilles injury last year, as well as shifting from right to left. Range is where you would expect those factors to show up. I doubt the half season sample size in UZR is a very compelling estimate of his true talent defensively. If his achilles is still a problem in the spring, then there would be more of a basis to say he has had one injury too many to play left.

    Comment by JCA — December 28, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

  4. Can you see the Yankees trading for Luke Scott to play left field?

    Comment by Jared — December 28, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

  5. Good points, which is why I mentioned the uncertainty in his defensive projection.

    I do feel pretty comfortable saying that Felix Pie is a far superior OF defender, although that’s no knock on Reimold.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 28, 2009 @ 5:05 pm

  6. Maybe. Not sure they’d need to. Better than than shelling out $10M/yr for Johnny Damon, although I’d be a bit surprised if he got that now.

    As I may write later, the Yanks best option (other than going for Holliday) might be to put Gardner in CF and Granderson in LF. Of course, that will never happen, but if Granderson (one of my favorite players to cheer for, by the way) is as smart and as “good a guy” as we always hear, he’d not only go for it, but suggest it himself.

    But that’s another post…

    Scott might make sense for NYA, STL (if they can’t keep Holliday), maybe SEA depending on what they want to do with Bradley in terms of DH/LF stuff. Who else?

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 28, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

  7. Agree Pie is a better fielding outfielder. Perhaps the Os move is to let Reimold play and prove his best position is DH. With his power, if he can hold a corner, then he becomes quite valuable. Also, with Jones coming off an injury and Reimold having an injury history, it is likely that Pie will have plenty of opportunities as a 4th OF.

    Comment by JCA — December 28, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

  8. No kidding about the O’s depth — the O’s cut Jeff Fiorentino loose for a payday in Japan. CHONE projected him as a league average hitter at 267/343/404 (+0 batting runs) with some defensive value. Fiorentino is not great by any means, but he is likely better than a few team’s opening day starters in the outfield.

    Comment by Gopherballs — December 28, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

  9. I was originally going to say that the Os were one of the few teams with an excuse to let Fiorentino go, but the piece is overlong as it is.

    Fiorentino, Pie, and Scott (the three guys likely low on the totem pole) would be a better starting OF than those likely to be fielded by several teams this coming season.

    The worst part for those of us cheering for one of those teams is that that jerk MacPhail knows it. Argh. Can’t he just trade Pie for Willie Bloomquist or something?

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 28, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

  10. The best option for the Orioles appears to be to try Reimold at first, as his bat probably profiles there if he continues to hit for the power he showed last year. The problem is that 2005 first rounder Brandon Snyder is finally starting to put it together in the minors at 1B and may crack the Show sometime in 2010.

    This is all obviously a testament to how far Andy MacPhail has taken this club since he arrived.

    Comment by Matt J. — December 28, 2009 @ 5:33 pm

  11. What we need to do is move Jones to left and Pie to Center. We can then give Reimold a try at st1Base. Anyone agree?

    Comment by Johnny Hamer — December 28, 2009 @ 6:46 pm

  12. For some unknown reason, the O’s Front Office has made bold statements such as “Reimold will not be moved to 1B”. I believe if they don’t sign a stopgap 1B that Reimold may wind up there. He is athletic and 6’4″, the makings of a good First Baseman. The O’s have a logjam of players to play 1B. They just don’t have the prototypical power hitting guy to step in which causes them to keep looking and rumored to get every ML 1Bman out there…..

    O’s 1B candidates:

    Brandon Snyder – may be called up by the ASB
    Garret Atkins – A 3Bman that will eventually be a 1Bman. Inevitible.
    Luke Scott – We played him there late in the 2009 season – weak fielder
    Ty Wigginton – Can be the everyday 1Bman – maybe an avg fielder at 1B
    Michael Aubrey – Former #1 pick of the Indians, best fielding 1B of the bunch.
    Lou Montanez – Long shot – mostly an OFer
    Rhyne Hughes – a 25 HR guy – Long shot – behind Snyder in race to the ML’s

    That is 7 guys on the 40 man roster that can play 1B. Playing Reimold at 1B solves the issue of where to play Pie. It immediately makes your OF just about the best in baseball. I believe if he can play the position, it makes the team stronger and within 1-3 years, Reimold will be a prototypical hitting 1Bman.

    Comment by O's Fan in TX — December 28, 2009 @ 7:20 pm

  13. Why the (familiar) attack on the Cubs for ‘jerking’ Pie around? They didn’t do that with him, and they didn’t do it with C Patterson. It’s not the Cubs’ fault that people touted these guys as stars in the making–without realizing that they lacked control of the strike zone, and lacking enough power or contact ability to make up for it.

    The Cubs only fault was for drafting Pie and Patterson as high as they did.

    Comment by dcs — December 28, 2009 @ 8:16 pm

  14. Not too sure, but they brought both players up very early and gave up on them fairly quickly. They also drifted them between AAA and the bigs. I suppose you could call that “jerking” them around, given their age.

    Comment by Michael — December 28, 2009 @ 9:57 pm

  15. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pie and Jones were about the same in terms of defensive talent. Both are rated very highly by scouts, and the metric projections aren’t all that different. I’d say the net change is zero based on that, and you have to figure Jones sticks in CF because he’s an organizational jewel, rather than Pie, who is more of a castoff.

    Comment by Michael — December 28, 2009 @ 10:02 pm

  16. No. Andy McPhail has no intention to either.

    Comment by bill6anderson — December 28, 2009 @ 10:15 pm

  17. Reimold is an outfielder that has no interest in 1st base. Everyone seems to think anyone can play first base. The O’s tried Luke Scott there but it didn’t look too good.

    Comment by bill6anderson — December 28, 2009 @ 10:21 pm

  18. Adam Jones was last years Gold Glove winner in centerfield. Markakis should have been in right field too. Reimold is a better player than Pie and will play left. Those are given. Pie will be a good sub at all 3 spots or as dh. Scott will probably be traded. Aubrey looked great defensively at 1st and hits good enough to be our regular until Snyder or a trade pushes him out.

    Comment by bill6anderson — December 28, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

  19. Pie looked awesome in center but only average in left. He is the backup unlesss he is traded. Defense is needed at first and not everyone can play the infield well.

    Comment by bill6anderson — December 28, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

  20. well, if someone is a Gold Glove winner, that obviously indicates superior defensive skills. Cf. Jeter, Derek; Young, Michael; McLouth, Nate.

    I’m sorry that I wrote this article, since so many things are “given” and thus obvious.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 28, 2009 @ 11:11 pm

  21. 194 PA in one season and 93 in another is not giving a player a chance in the majors. By themselves, they establish almost nothing about a player’s true talent. Pie is probably a superior player right now to Soriano or Fukudome.

    But who am I to cast aspersions on an expert team-builder like Jim Hendry?

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 28, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

  22. About Pie’s experince in Chicago: Yes, the Cubs jerked Pie around. Pinella has throughout his managerial career been very impatient with young players when he has a veteran he can throw out there. He is almost as bad as Dusty Baker in that regard. In 2007, his rookie year, Pie didn’t hit in April and early May, and was sent down hitting .224. He was recalled a month later, and on June 9th was hitting .288. He went into an extended slump, going 7-59 and dropping his average down to .216, when he was sent down again. He was recalled again in early August, went 4-17 in four straight starts, and then Pinella buried him, with Felix getting just two starts in the Cubs’ last 45 games. Not saying he deserved to be starting, just saying that Pinella jerked him around and buried him.

    The next season, Pie won the starting CF job out of spring training and started the first four games of the season, going 3-15. Pinella then buried him again, giving him just 11 starts over the next 34 games before exiling him to Iowa until September.

    About Pie’s defense: If you watched him play, there is no way you could make the statement that his +2 in CF translates to a +12 in LF. As good as he is defensively in CF, he is far and away the worst LF on the team. One plan rumored to be afoot during spring training is to move Jones from CF to LF, install Pie as the regular CF, and move Reimold to 1B. This accomplishes several things: (1) It takes advantage of Jones’ plus skills (taking HRs away at the wall and his lateral range) while minimizing his minus skills (playing too shallow, tracking balls over his head and short of him, his inaccurate throwing arm and his need to ignore the cutoff man), (2) it protects Reimold’s achilles from further damage coming off of surgery, and (3) it puts Pie in the lineup regularly, where hopefully he follows up on his 842 second half OPS.

    Comment by mstrchef13 — December 28, 2009 @ 11:20 pm

  23. I prefer Pie in left, Reimold at DH, and Scott at first. Please tell me this is a possibility, Matt.

    Comment by Phil S — December 28, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

  24. What it should be:

    Scott-Traded for Prospects

    What it will be:

    Pie-4th OF

    Whatever happens, I will be able to sleep at night as long as Reimold isn’t playing 1B to start the season. Let him play himself out of the the OF and if he does falter, don’t just stick him at 1B thinking any old guy can play 1st. If he can’t play decent defensively at 1st, let him DH instead of forcing it.

    Comment by lftyg33 — December 28, 2009 @ 11:52 pm

  25. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but if you look back in history, Dayton Moore has made some good trades and signings, so anything is possible.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 29, 2009 @ 12:27 am

  26. I’m not saying it’s impossible, I would say it would be a very rare player who is a superior defensive CF and a bad LF. What tools would a good CF have that would be lacking as an LF? He may have had some bad games, maybe he needs more time to get used to reads out there. The positional adjustment itself, particularly in the case of the case of corner OF and CF, are partly based on comparisons of players playing both positions.

    One way of making a point in my favor would be to point out, Pie has played mostly CF in the majors, 933 innings to less than 300 in LF. That’s a small sample size of either, but mostly LF.

    Another way, which I grant is in tension with the preceding point (usual caveats re: small sample size), is that Pie’s career UZR/150 in LF and CF respectively closely track the 10 run positional adjustment. In LF: +15.3; in CF: +8.3.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 29, 2009 @ 12:32 am

  27. I think Orioles fans have a tough time seeing Pie as a plus defender in LF, because he wasn’t very fluid there last year. Some bad breaks on the ball, awkward routes, etc. A guy like Reimold looks alot more natural in the field, even if he doesn’t cover nearly the ground that Pie does.

    Pie’s speed gives him ridiculous range for LF, and I don’t think people realize how many balls he got to last year that Reimold or Scott would not have reached. Give Pie LF in the spring and let him get more comfortable there, and you’ll have a very good defensive OF. Given the O’s stock of flyball pitchers (39.7% FB in 09), that would be a good thing…

    Comment by Haze — December 29, 2009 @ 9:15 am

  28. In 2009 and 2007 Felix Pie was good. In 2008 he was terrible. He hasn’t played 1000 innings yet though. That’s not even a full fielding year. It seems difficult to state that he’s better or worse then Adam Jones based on such a small sample size.

    The fact that his fielding results in 2007-2009 and more specifically the fact that his standard deviation is so high would make me question whether comparing his performance to Adam Jones or Nolan Reimold(another guy with a small sample size of innings) is possible to do.

    Comment by Matt P — December 29, 2009 @ 9:37 am

  29. Matt great piece I agree fully, though I think some of the projections might be low, but obviously that’s the nature of projections. For those who are questioning Pie’s defense in LF, check out his UZR rating it was a positive. I realize watching the games he made a few HORRIBLE plays, but overall he made a lot more ‘routine’ plays that most LF’s don’t make. As to why his defense in CF seemed better, remember that Pie was new the AL and never played in their ballparks before so by the time he was filling in for Jones he had some experience in those parks. Not to mention LF in and of its self is an adjustment for Pie, Overall LF is an easier position, but you still need to adjust to it when you’ve played CF most of your ML career and almost the entire time in the minors. So what that he was just slightly above average last season out there, the point is he has the tools to be an elite LF out there (defensively).

    As for Reimold in addition to his small sample size of innings out there, we need to remember that he too was playing in brand new ballparks and at a new position. He played RF almost exclusively in the minors (some in CF) and really didn’t play LF until last season. I think those factors combined with his relative youth and him recovered from the heel injury will make him an average defender in LF or at worse slighty below average.

    My hope is they move both Scott and Pie, but I’m in agreement that Pie shouldn’t be moved for less than he’s worth. Given his age, defensive ability and contract he should have more value than Melky Cabrera. I think you move both, hopefully get a young SS back in one or both of those deals, and let Montanez be the Utility OF.

    Comment by Steveospeak — December 29, 2009 @ 10:07 am

  30. What were Pie’s defensive numbers in left? He was a very good centerfielder when he played there, but he was weak in left. Never read the angle of the ball correctly. He may be a guy whose CF numbers don’t translate to his LF numbers.

    Comment by Bonzi — December 29, 2009 @ 10:11 am

  31. Gold gloves are awesome. It’s just too bad that we don’t have a superior measure of defensive ability readily available with a couple clicks of the mouse.

    Comment by twinsfan — December 29, 2009 @ 10:30 am

  32. ATL makes a lot of sense as well.

    Comment by BX — December 29, 2009 @ 10:34 am

  33. And the Mets. Forgot about them. Blatant need for a corner outfielder to remove Francoeur from his position.

    An OF of Scott-Beltran-Pagan is pretty damn good.

    Comment by BX — December 29, 2009 @ 10:36 am

  34. Matt,

    As a loyal lifelong O’s fan, the only problem that I really have with Pie as a defender in the outfield – left or center – is that he shows a propensity and a desire to hold the ball, like the little-league-outfielder-with-a-great-arm does He did this on numerous occasions last year, sometimes allowing runners to advance while he was putting it in his pocket.

    As far as I am concerned until Pie learns that as an outfielder your responsibility is to get the ball back in to the infield, frankly I don’t care what he bats or how fast he is. It makes no difference if you can get to the ball before it gets to the corner if, once you get it, you stand out there trying to figure out what to do with it.

    Comment by Will Ransom — December 29, 2009 @ 11:13 am

  35. First time commenter…Orioles fan…those caveats out of the way…Nice article…good insightful comments (as opposed to some ludicrous comments on other sights). I have to thank MLB Trade Rumors for the link. Came here particularly to read about the Orioles, but have been here before, a number of times, after a mention in MLBTR.

    Agree with many of the comments about “small sample size”. Numbers, however, don’t tell the whole story – though they can paint a nice picture. Having watched Pie play quite a bit this year (attended about 20 games this year and pretty much watched the rest on TV), one can tell he’s got talent. Unfortunately, his baseball IQ (or sense) needs work. He definitely looked more comfortable in CF while replacing Jones late in the year. Some of that may have come from a new-found confidence at the plate after working with Crow, but that’s kinda mixing apples and oranges.

    Jones’ range was crazy and might have contributed to Pie’s timidness when they were on the field together. Jones often (over-)compensated for Reimold’s and Scott’s limited range. With Pie in LF, Jones came to realize (or did Trembley tell him?) that he could have confidence in his LF partner (which he already seemed to have with Markakis in RF).

    Yes, Jones was apt to drop a can of corn, have a ball get over his head or make a wild throw while showing off his arm strenght, but I think those things will settle with experience. He already showed improvement in those areas (focus, reading the ball and judgement) later in the year before he got hurt. He’s 24. Wait ’til he’s 27 and has a few years under his belt.

    In closing, yes, the O’s have an “enviable outfield logjam”. Now if the young arms can just develop into another Palmer-Cuellar-McNally trio, I’ll be one happy bird!

    Comment by SoBoHoBoS — December 29, 2009 @ 11:29 am

  36. A words on sample size:

    I mention it briefly in the article, elsewhere in the comments, etc. Note that TotalZone projections include data from the minors, and that the projections are also regressed heavily. In other words, it’s taken into account as much as possible given the data we have.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — December 29, 2009 @ 12:20 pm

  37. How does Lou Montanez figure in? He’s another nice young player to consider in the O’s outfield logjam…

    Comment by Wiffler — December 29, 2009 @ 12:37 pm

  38. Nolan was Drafted as a 1st baseman

    Comment by shawn — December 29, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

  39. I think Pie’s problem lies in the intangibles (which are admittedly correctible, but Jones already has them in spades). O’s fans have watched him get horrendous reads in left, we’ve seen him repeatedly not yield to the centerfielder when he calls for a ball, and we’ve seen him hold a ball way too long after catching it and having a runner tag up and advance on him. He seems to have great raw talent, but he doesn’t seem to know standard operating procedure.

    Just watching Pie I can tell he’s a hard worker, the time he put in with Terry Crowley paid off beyond anyone’s expectations. But he seems to get cocky and careless out there. I tend to refer to him as the eager younger brother that the older kids don’t want around because he’s a spazz.

    I doubt they’d ever do it but Jones was a shortstop in college. I could see moving him to short and having Pie in center, but it’d take a lot of convincing to see Pie out there in left. Not to say I can’t be convinced, Pie just has to learn some more. That or make him a DH. Somehow Pie turned into Ty Cobb during the last month of the season and he’s fast as hell on the basepaths.

    Reimold looks promising in left, he doesn’t have that lost puppy dog that Luke Scott does when he fields a ball. Reimold just needs to charge more. He backs off a lot if he thinks the shortstop has it, even though the left fielder would have the better angle. I think maybe the ceiling is higher for Pie but I think Reimold does them more good in the short term defensively.

    Either way, great article. It’s interesting to see how the stats play out. I’m just a dude who watches the games, I don’t get into the numbers much. Watching the games you’d think Reimold was a better LF than Scott, but sometimes prejudices play a role. Thanks for the info!

    Comment by Walt — December 29, 2009 @ 3:03 pm

  40. wow. im am so surprised people think pie is a good fielder he made so many bone headed plays last year like holding on to the ball when people are taking an extra base. Hes fast but stupid. He did come on strong with his bat towards the end of the season and i loved his intensity.

    Comment by Andrew — December 29, 2009 @ 5:07 pm

  41. Just in case anyone needs reminded UZR is for stat geek morons who never played the game. And the minute it`s quoted it renders all other statements moot. Ask yourself if any GM`s use this stat? Do any players? Former players? Managers? It`s total B.S. And the sooner you all accept that the sooner more than 15 people a day will read these articles.

    Comment by Travis Bickle — December 29, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

  42. The solution no Oriole fan wants to swallow but which potentially results in the strongest team on the field is to trade Markakis with either Tillman or Arietta as the core of a trade for Adrian Gonzalez. It lets you put Reimold in right which was his best position in the minors, Pie in center which is his best position and Jones in left. Gonzalez fills your two biggest holes, an impact middle of the order hitter and gold glove first baseman. Markakis fills the hole left when Blanks moves to 1B. By trading Markakis we dont have to dig too deep into our pitching depth to fill out the trade. I would try to expand it to add Scott and get Kouz. This lets the Pads move Scott to left when Headley takes Kouzmanoff’s spot at 3rd. Atkins and Kouz fill DH and 3B based on how they perform in spring training. Only glitch I see is whether SD would take on Markakis’ salary.

    Comment by Lucky Horseshoe — December 30, 2009 @ 12:23 am

  43. Lucky, haven’t heard that one before. Kudos for thinking outside the box. Seems that SD and Balt match-up nicely as trade partners. Always liked Kouzmanoff too. His career .345 minor league BA hasn’t been reflected in the majors. Thought he was all-hit/no-glove, but his major league record (low) 3 Es changed my perception of him.

    Comment by SoBoHoBoS — December 30, 2009 @ 11:44 am

  44. I have this blog and not seen anyone take into account injuries happen over 162 games, see Orioles 2009. Depth is not only nice but needed. Keep all 4 young outfielders and let the manager do his job and find playing time for all. And as for the suggestion we trade Markakis and or are young pitchers for AD i think that would be crazy. We can find a decent power hitting 1st baseman without trading our young talent. Stick to the plan and we will get there!

    Comment by GMAN — December 30, 2009 @ 12:06 pm

  45. Thanks So-most Oriole fans I floated the idea by thought I left the box out in the rain and ran over it (several times) with a big truck. I recognize Kouz is not David Wright or ZImmerman, but if he was, we would be talking about giving up a ton for him too. He is apparently a no range fielder but will catch what is hit to him and has the arm to go corner to corner. I dont mind a steady but unspectacular fielder while waiting to see what Bell turns into. Similarly he is a power hitter who will never hit for high average and will strike out some. Gee, he isnt the first power hitter with those downsides. He is serviceable, young and if Atkins or Bell keep him from 3B, can be a DH. He doesnt have any more holes than Scott, is probably better at 3B than Scott is at 1B and fits the holes in the roster better than Scott does.

    GMAN- I believe trading for a 1B is part of the plan under the section headed “Buy the bats”. I do not want to throw money or prospects willy nilly at every recognizable name, but for a player like Tex ot AGon, I say the plan has to be flexible enough to go for it. These are impact hitters, gold glove defenders, young and in their prime and high character guys who are not risky moves. They are consistent and known quantities. This does not mean that a trade like Glenn Davis doesnt happen but holding your pitching prospects can end up like the Mets class of Isringhausen/Pulsipher/Wilson or the Cubs Wood and Pryor. We cant ignore history but cant let it paralyze us either. MAYBE we can find a decent power hitting 1B, but AD is not decent; he is superstar quality IMO and a good guy, young, no injury history and a high likelihood to continue (or improve based on moving to a better hitting park) his level of performance. His numbers are consistent. The risk is of signing him long term, but for this guy I would offer Tex money or maybe even an ARod contract. If Wieters is the real deal and our pitching develops as expected, I feel that this AGon trade could be the Frank Robinson-like final piece in the puzzle. Granted the rest of the team needs some maturing so the payoff would not be quite as fast as the F Robby deal.

    Comment by Lucky Horseshoe — December 30, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

  46. I agree with those who suggest Reimold should move, and I’d say to first (leaving Scott for DH or trade). Learning new positions is partly what the off-season and spring training are for, so get Reimold a first baseman’s mitt asap. When he came out of Bowling Green, scouts weren’t raving about his glove, but his bat. Pie still has time to become the hitter some scouts predicted he’d be (Matt is right; the Cubs jerked him around too much), but he will absolutely shine in left field. He’d do the same in center, but, understandably, the Orioles won’t want to tamper with Adam Jones’ psychology after his successful 2009.

    Comment by Canton Terrier — December 31, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

  47. The biggest problem with the trade: Markakis + Prospects for AGon is that SD would not want Markakis. The only reason they trade AGon is to get 4 high upside prospects with minimal major league service time. If they got Markakis they would almost immediatly look to ship him out to. The O’s are probably best off keeping their pitching prospects realizing only 50% may pan out. the 2010 1B free agent class is loaded so we don’t need to blow our prospect load on one.

    Comment by Ben — January 2, 2010 @ 6:32 pm

  48. Ben…2010 1B FA class? That’s this years. Did you mean 2011 1B FA class? According to Cot’s Baseball Contracts, I wouldn’t exactly say the market is “loaded”:

    Lance Berkman HOU *
    Wes Helms FLA
    Jason Giambi COL
    Ross Gload FLA
    Paul Konerko CWS
    Derrek Lee CHC
    David Ortiz BOS *
    Lyle Overbay TOR
    Carlos Pena TB
    Albert Pujols STL *

    * player whose current contract includes 2011 option

    Pujols would be nice, but we all know he’s staying in St. Louis. Berkman’s about the only other guy I’d give 2 cents for.

    Comment by SoBoHoBoS — January 4, 2010 @ 1:06 pm

  49. The weird thing about Pie is that even though he’s a really good CF, he’s a bad LF. He’s not comfortable there and it shows.

    Comment by GPK — January 6, 2010 @ 2:46 pm

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