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  1. I think this deal is as much a by-product of the rebuke from MLB’s front office as anything.

    About time, too.

    Comment by Joe R — January 15, 2010 @ 10:13 am

  2. I read somewhere (here? WWL?) that the Marlins are being pressured by the MLBPA to raise their payroll into the Oakland-Baltimore-Tampa region. Presumably this will help them get there (and seems like a very decent deal to boot).

    That said, now that the Marlins have a couple of (relatively) big contracts on the books, can we assume Uggla’s on his way out forthwith?

    Comment by ATepperm — January 15, 2010 @ 10:19 am

  3. beat me to it.

    they kindof HAD to do this. not that it isn’t a good deal, it is. but it’s not a coincidence that the Marlins refused to go to 4 years earlier this offseason and have now relented.

    Comment by Steve — January 15, 2010 @ 10:42 am

  4. And they’ll trade him when he gets to 13.75 million in year three.

    Comment by geo — January 15, 2010 @ 11:21 am

  5. Yeah, let’s not go investing heavily in the South Florida community just yet, JJ, you could be 2 years away from Boston / New York / LA.

    Comment by JoeR43 — January 15, 2010 @ 11:26 am

  6. I resent the negativity here as a Marlins fan. I’m sure the team would consider trading either Johnson or Ramirez even with their deals locked up if it were beneficial or the team were forced to by its ownership. However, both deals are unprecedented for the organization, so we have no basis in saying things like “they’ll trade them when they get expensive.” I’m sure the Marlins know the relative bargains they’re getting even in the late stages of the players’ respective contracts, and knowing that their long-term future has some surplus value may incline the Marlins to keep those players.

    This doesn’t even consider the possibility that the new stadium may actually help increase payroll. If it does, the team may actually be able to hold onto these players even longer. So let’s not jump to conclusions either way.

    Comment by Michael — January 15, 2010 @ 12:26 pm

  7. I doubt it. A deal like this doesn’t get initiated and completed in just two days. They’ve probably been working on this for several weeks, if not the whole offseason. The timing is likely coincidental.

    Comment by Nathaniel Dawson — January 15, 2010 @ 12:27 pm

  8. Your team just got admonished by the league for what basically amounts to pocketing their revenue sharing money.

    Why should you “resent” the negativity? They were clearly wrong. It’s not exactly unfair criticism.

    Comment by Steve — January 15, 2010 @ 12:46 pm

  9. Just as the Marlins were probably aware that they were going to be admonished by the league for several weeks prior to the press release.

    I would be shocked if the two were not related. JMO.

    Comment by Steve — January 15, 2010 @ 12:48 pm

  10. @Steve: Not really replying to your comment. The admonishment was absolutely fair.

    That being said, this deal has been in the making for a while, and the relenting of the fourth year has nothing to do with the specific agreement of increasing payroll for 2010 and 2011 (years leading into the 2012 stadium opening).

    Comment by Michael — January 15, 2010 @ 1:08 pm

  11. Yes, if they were able to get advance notice of this, the two could well be related. Then again, they’ve done this same thing with Hanley Ramirez without any pressure from the outside. Could be related, may be just coincidence.

    Comment by Nathaniel Dawson — January 15, 2010 @ 1:16 pm

  12. I’m not sure why you would ever look at someone’s HR/9 and make assumptions about luck, Jack. We know ground ball pitchers give up fewer home runs. You stated that in your next phrase. Why even mention luck? It’s HR/FB that normalizes (park effects excluded).

    Comment by Kevin S. — January 15, 2010 @ 9:33 pm

  13. so we have no basis in saying things like “they’ll trade them when they get expensive.”

    Not exactly the same situation, but what about Carlos Delgado?

    I love this signing, but I’m pretty sure that Johnson won’t play out the whole deal. If he’s still himself (or better) after 2.5-3 years, I’d expect him to be gone. Same could go for Hanley. I’m sure at the end of their contracts, the Marlins could get much more than draft picks by dealing them.

    Comment by Whartonite — January 15, 2010 @ 11:26 pm

  14. Personally, I have a hard time believing that this all happened between the time of the admonishment and Thursday. It is, of course, convenient timing, but this was clearly already in the works.

    Comment by Jack Moore — January 16, 2010 @ 2:30 am

  15. And to add to what “Steve” said….Not just pocketing the revenue sharing but the frigging rain. As a Phillies fan my team is guaranteed 9 trips to that swamp. I’ve lost count of how many times my team’s rotation and bull pen stressed because rain delays screwed the starting pitchers out innings. Did someone forget that from March til October its monsoon season? It’s an anomally when it doesn’t rain there during these months. Seattle had the foresight. The Fish and the Rox didn’t get the memo on how atmospheric conditions might affect the game…well at least the Fish are finally doing something about it.

    Comment by pounded clown — January 16, 2010 @ 4:05 am

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