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  1. Starting to regret not traveling out to see it unveiled.

    Comment by Zach Sanders — January 31, 2010 @ 3:46 pm

  2. Thanks. I was just wondering what it was. Looks cool.

    Comment by RKO36 — January 31, 2010 @ 3:53 pm

  3. David, or anyone else, do you have any idea how this will effect the availability of the free Pitch f/x XML files?

    Comment by vivaelpujols — January 31, 2010 @ 4:05 pm

  4. Thanks for the preview, Bloomberg! Now, I can’t wait until FanGraphs offers all of the same things for free in a few months…

    Comment by AKB — January 31, 2010 @ 4:14 pm

  5. *stares*



    *shakes head* Um, so the product that is available to the masses is the Fantasy version and the Professional version is for the big boys?

    Comment by KaminaAyato — January 31, 2010 @ 5:13 pm

  6. Uh, WOW.

    And AKB… Um.. I love FanGraphs. Dave is an absolute stud. But it’s going to be more than a few months.

    Comment by Patrick — January 31, 2010 @ 5:48 pm

  7. has anyone used their fantasy draft kit? if so any quick reviews?

    Comment by Lee D — January 31, 2010 @ 6:05 pm

  8. The Bloomberg website said that they are giving it a test run to MLB clubs. And they need people to interpret it right? (Hint, hint)

    Comment by RZ — January 31, 2010 @ 6:17 pm

  9. Speaking of apps, any word if the fangraphs iphone application will be available on Andriod? I’m thinking of switching from iPhone to Nexus One, but your app is a must have.

    Comment by John — January 31, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

  10. I’m in love.

    Also, same question as John, only for the Palm Pre?

    Comment by J Bravo — January 31, 2010 @ 6:45 pm

  11. I haven’t heard anything about them doing away with the free XML files.

    Comment by Zach Sanders — January 31, 2010 @ 7:50 pm

  12. Not that we couldn’t (and it would probably take 3-6 months of dev time) but the ability to slice and dice pitchfx data in such a granular way is not coming to FanGraphs anytime soon. In some sense, it’s overkill, even to the most advanced fan, but I wouldn’t mind having some of these types of graphics up on the site on a full season, or left/right splits full season level.

    5×5 grids of the strike zone with gradient colors aren’t exactly a “new” thing, but it’s a slick interface.

    Comment by David Appelman — January 31, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

  13. I guess something had to take over as the professional tool now that Curt Schilling’s retired!

    Comment by chuckb — January 31, 2010 @ 8:24 pm

  14. I don’t think it would be that hard for Dave to implement those for all players (it’s really no different than creating the wOBA graphs and whatnot, just more lines of coding), but I think he’s right that it’s overkill.

    Comment by vivaelpujols — January 31, 2010 @ 8:40 pm

  15. I actually have the code to generate those types of charts, but it’s for BIS data, which we’re prohibited from doing on a full site scale. Copying what Bloomberg did in just the demo would probably take 3-6 months. Doing a super lite version of it is more or less done, but can’t be released.

    Porting the code over to the pitchf/x data should be pretty easy but I’d need to brush up on the strike zone coordinates in the pitchf/x data. I’m just not really sure what the coordinates are for the 4 corners of the strike zone.

    Comment by David Appelman — January 31, 2010 @ 9:00 pm

  16. Pretty amazing.

    Comment by NEPP — January 31, 2010 @ 9:07 pm

  17. For RHH I use -1 and +1 feet horizontally and for LHH I use -1.121 and .875 feet. I use the average value of the sz_bot and sz_top given for each hitter for the vertical. Use the average (or median) value, because the operators aren’t really accurate on a at bat by at bat basis, and there are some glitches as well.

    Comment by vivaelpujols — January 31, 2010 @ 9:43 pm

  18. Why do these guys want to put Dave Allen out of a job? I seriously hope people aren’t paying for something that doesn’t take much time if you have any Excel skills.

    Comment by Sandy Kazmir — January 31, 2010 @ 10:22 pm

  19. Dave,

    You’re simply amazing. That’s all I have to say. =)

    And yes, it DOES seem like overkill – I’m curious what the extra information some of the slicing and dicing supposedly includes is..

    Some of the sites allude to some fairly advanced sounding stuff being involved.

    Comment by Patrick — January 31, 2010 @ 10:58 pm

  20. Well, that pie chart thingy with the pitch types is a breakdown of pitch sequencing, which can then be drilled down again and again.

    To me it seems like they basically turned the pitchf/x data base into a highly customized OLAP type tool where you can drill down very far into one particular element.

    It’s not apparent in the screen shots, but it appeared from the demo you could basically click on anything and it would take you to a new layer of data.

    Have to give Bloomberg props for creating a super slick interface.

    Comment by David Appelman — January 31, 2010 @ 11:11 pm

  21. Well, people will pay so they don’t have to take the time to process the information themselves.

    Comment by barry — February 1, 2010 @ 10:51 am

  22. ESPN offers some similar data on a free basis.

    Comment by JayCee — February 1, 2010 @ 1:05 pm

  23. As a financial industry professional with a Bloomberg terminal on my desk, I wonder if there is any way possible I can sneak this expense by our data services team. Hmmm… I trade FX, this uses PitchFX, do you think anyone will notice?

    Comment by Mitch — February 1, 2010 @ 3:19 pm

  24. All this really is is a conversion of the current dashboards for business utilities applied to a different data warehouse.

    It is not the fact that application of the data in this format is a major change from what is out there in the business world. The important part is that the fact the companies are willing to create this for the MLB and that there is a major market for it. The next area will be subscription only versions available for non-MLB end users off of a cloud computing platform. The real question is going to be how much $$ would it cost for implementation of this on a consumer scale and would it be profitable.

    This is just a bet GUI than what is used by those with access to DiamondView with offsite support running the data collection and data cleansing.

    Welcome to the ever changing world of Business Intelligence solutions.

    Comment by Ben George — February 1, 2010 @ 3:25 pm

  25. Hey Dave interesting to read people’s thoughts on your blog versus what was being said within the Twitter feed. I thought there was a lot of ideas that were already well-established, but then again Bloomberg did have a couple outside the box ideas. I don’t want to rush to judgment in terms of the fantasy product until I’ve had an opportunity to give it a test drive, but I think it will be a useful tool. Whether it’s worth $31.95 is the question.

    Comment by Mark — February 1, 2010 @ 7:18 pm

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