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  1. Not sure about your addition– 12 pitchers plus 9 starters plus Chavez, Rosales and Powell make 24– so there’s only one spot left for the four players you mention. Gross has the edge.

    Comment by baycommuter — March 24, 2010 @ 5:05 pm

  2. Argh

    I went over it in my head several times, and came to that conclusion more than once, then promptly forgot about it.

    Geez I’m an idiot.. re-writing it a bit now.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — March 24, 2010 @ 5:11 pm

  3. Jake Fox seemed like a good pick up at the time, then they picked up a number of other guys who filled similar or overlapping roles. Rosales fills the bench role better than Fox even if he has worse hitting potential. Fox could have been a cheap and young DH but then they resigned Cust. The outfield is full of better or younger guys and Fox would be bad there defensively. I like Fox, but he doesn’t really fit on the team well now at all. Unfortunately there hasn’t been time to rebuild his value so I’m not what Beane could get for him. One would assume he would be waiver claimed if they try to send him down.

    Comment by Gricomet — March 24, 2010 @ 5:38 pm

  4. Why do you assume 12 pitchers? The A’s have enough off days that they’ll only need a fifth starter two or three times in the first month. No reason they’d need more than 11 pitchers.

    Comment by Matt Rado — March 24, 2010 @ 7:22 pm

  5. I don’t think Crisp has even played the outfield yet this spring, though he did hit a home run as DH the other day. Could he start the season on the DL? I think Chavez has also taken some grounders at short (that may have just been an idea that didn’t end up happening), in which case they could start Rosales or Pennington in the minors and wait for the inevitable injury. That would leave them really light on middle infielders, though.

    I just can’t see them letting Fox go. Carrying 11 pitchers for the first month and seeing what the situation is after everyone’s had some live action might be the best solution.

    Comment by lincolndude — March 24, 2010 @ 7:54 pm

  6. What’s too bad in all of this is how people have forgotten what a really good player Chavez was pre-injury. He was consistently an .850-.890 OPS third baseman that played (from 2002-2006 he had four season of at least +6.6 UZR/150). He was a 4-5 WAR player, and now he’s become the butt end of Bad Contract jokes. Crazy world, this baseball.

    Comment by Jon — March 24, 2010 @ 8:35 pm

  7. I actually posted on Chavez today. He and Scott Rolen were almost exactly the same through age 27. After that, their careers diverged big time.

    Comment by lincolndude — March 24, 2010 @ 8:50 pm

  8. I honestly don’t see any use for Eric Patterson. I mean, unless he’s gonna have a near-.500 BABIP like he did last year when he was “Good,” he can’t hit or field. How is that worth a roster spot?

    Also, what’s with this “As'” thing?

    Comment by JD — March 25, 2010 @ 1:51 am

  9. The A’s have just 2 off days in April. They play 2 straight weeks to start the season, and two of the guys scheduled to be in their rotation are Ben Sheets and Justin Duchscherer. One of the primary bullpen weapons they have is Joey Devine. And Wuertz, Breslow, and Bailey have all been slowed by nagging issues this spring.

    I normally hate 12 pitchers, but if there was ever a time a team absolutely needed an extra guy, it’s this April with this A’s team.

    Comment by JD — March 25, 2010 @ 3:21 am

  10. also, Chavez will clear waivers, so you can stash both…and shuffle some of the mediocre relievers with options if you need both Chavez and Fox on the 25 man and no position player is worth sending down…

    Chavez is an elite player when healthy, if its a choice between him and Fox..

    It’s just the health that makes DFAing Fox to keep Chavez a HUGE risk. That’s what mediocre relievers are for.

    Comment by BX — March 25, 2010 @ 9:02 am

  11. Because most teams use 12, and it’s a short post, so I didn’t want to spend another paragraph talking about that.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — March 25, 2010 @ 9:07 am

  12. NO one has forgotten. I remember how good Mike Sweeney was way back when. And Vernon Wells. And Alfonso Soriano… see where this is going?

    And just because it’s an albatross contract now doesn’t necessarily mean it was at the time it was signed, but that’s another post.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — March 25, 2010 @ 9:10 am

  13. The possessive.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — March 25, 2010 @ 9:11 am

  14. This article assumes Jake Fox has no options remaining. He actually has an option remaining, so he’ll be sent down. Patterson does not have any remaining, so we’ll see what happens with him.

    Comment by JK — March 25, 2010 @ 11:09 am

  15. Actually, mlb says that Fox does not have options remaining. Earlier this spring they had said he did not have an option, then they said he did, and in an article today says that he does not have an option. So, ignore my comment.

    Comment by JK — March 25, 2010 @ 11:18 am

  16. What ever happened to bringing the top 25 guys based on Spring Training performance?

    Comment by bill — March 25, 2010 @ 3:09 pm

  17. Level heads prevailed.

    Comment by Choo — March 25, 2010 @ 4:02 pm

  18. This time of year just about every team in baseball is losing sleep on how exactly they are going to trim their roster to 25. If there ever is a safe time to DFA somebody (Fox) with the hopes of him clearing waivers, this is the time. Additionally, Fox hasn’t helped himself at all this spring either enticing another team to take a chance on a out-of-options DH.

    Comment by Snookie — March 25, 2010 @ 5:44 pm

  19. “Chavez” and “elite” don’t belong in the same sentence anymore, regardless of heath status.

    Comment by Jason B — March 26, 2010 @ 12:18 pm

  20. what is with the Bill James projection for Fox?

    Comment by escapingNihilism — March 26, 2010 @ 2:17 pm

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