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  1. I think we should have replays

    Comment by Richard — June 2, 2010 @ 11:46 pm

  2. Maybe Joe West is promoting his music career so much in anticipation that his full time job might not be necessary much longer.

    Comment by Will — June 2, 2010 @ 11:49 pm

  3. I dont know why people associate replays with delays. Its up to MLB to implement a good instant replay system. Just follow other sports’ lead. See how the system works in rugby: they have a guy in the press box (just for you to get an idea) and the issue is solved in 1 minute tops. Whats so bad about that? Instead of having all the umpires leave the field for 5 minutes, just have one guy telling the chief umpire “HR”, “Foul Ball”, “Out”.

    Comment by Matias — June 2, 2010 @ 11:51 pm

  4. If MLB introduces more instant replay, then we simply shift the whining away from missed calls and towards the umpires’ refusal to consult a replay in a situation where someone thinks they should use it.

    It won’t help. Sorry.

    Comment by J. B. Rainsberger — June 2, 2010 @ 11:54 pm

  5. _Sigh_ Instant replay sure doesn’t feel like a gain to me.

    Comment by jlive — June 3, 2010 @ 12:02 am

  6. Not to detract from Galarraga, but the Rays had a play appealed at 3rd tonight whether Sean Rodriguez touched 3rd or not on his way home as the tying run in a 2-2 pitcher’s duel. Angel Hernandez called him out, taking a run off the board, even though replay clearly showed Rodriguez touching the base. It was all for naught as the bats exploded in the 9th, but if they had lost that game the league would surely be hearing about it.

    Nice to hear Joyce admit the mistake instead of acting like the infallible demigod that some of these men seem to think they are.

    Comment by Sandy Kazmir — June 3, 2010 @ 12:02 am

  7. @JB Thats why you have someone in the pressbox/umpire office review EVERY play, except for balls and strikes, and then chime in when something is obviously wrong. Just like they do in college football now.

    Comment by Greg — June 3, 2010 @ 12:03 am

  8. Wow, that’s a load of crap, Mr. Rainsberger.

    Comment by Byron — June 3, 2010 @ 12:05 am

  9. Just an fyi, I’m almost certain that was not Tony tweeting as PTIShow. He used to preface all his tweets with something like “Tony: ” etc. Plus, he’s probably asleep. I’m sure it is someone from the show (maybe a producer), just not sure who (when it isn’t in the tweet).

    Comment by sorry your heinous — June 3, 2010 @ 12:15 am

  10. I don’t know. Considering this was nearly the third perfect game of the season, I don’t think the human hitters are not efficient enough getting on base. I think they should take those out and use machines, too.

    This is how SkyNet starts… didn’t you heed the warnings of Sarah Connor?

    Comment by Deacon Drake — June 3, 2010 @ 12:21 am

  11. Instant replay is most needed for ball and strike calls. It could be in real time and would make baseball infintely fairer.

    Comment by Bill in Vegas — June 3, 2010 @ 12:21 am

  12. Dammnit Keith Law used the simpsons line, now I can’t use it anymore.

    Comment by vivaelpujols — June 3, 2010 @ 12:30 am

  13. So we are going to take the subjectivity out of a safe/out call (or say fair vs foul) and replace it with the need for umpires to subjectively place runners on base where they think they might have ended up if the call was made correctly.

    1st and 2nd one out… double play ball hit, runner on 2nd rounds 3rd and is heading home but stops halfway when the out call is made at 1st base ending the inning. Replay shows the runner to be safe but the first baseman hearing the out call doesn’t feel the need to throw home as the inning is over. Where does that runner go now? Do the umps assume the 1st baseman would have thrown home and got the runner if he had heard a safe call? Does the runner just go back to 3rd regardless and he gets shorted because the ump blew the call?

    Replay is going to just replace some subjective calls with other subjective calls.

    Comment by frank — June 3, 2010 @ 12:35 am

  14. Sadly the blown call a half inning earlier had a potentially much more dramatic impact on the game then the call in the 9th.

    Damon was ruled safe on a infield grounder which would have been the 3rd out of the inning… Detroit went on to tack on 2 runs turning a 1-0 game into a 3-0 game. Yet oddly there is minimal media coverage of that.

    Comment by frank — June 3, 2010 @ 12:37 am

  15. Why can’t there be a 5th ump in every crew trained purely for booth replay purposes who, as quickly as possible, reviews every close play and sends word down to the field? It’d be easy, it’d be quick, and, if you banned post-replay arguments, you wouldn’t slow down the game in any major way. And, most importantly, it would be right.

    I think the issue is having the four man crew go in to a silly booth. If that’s what baseball decided to do, it would be better than inaccuracy, but it’s possible to be accurate AND not slow the game down much. The entire crew doesn’t make the call at first base, so the entire crew doesn’t have to look at the replay.

    Comment by philkid3 — June 3, 2010 @ 12:37 am

  16. THIS!

    Comment by philkid3 — June 3, 2010 @ 12:38 am

  17. That would still be stupid, but at least it would be better.

    Comment by philkid3 — June 3, 2010 @ 12:38 am

  18. It was a joy to switch over to the Stanley Cup Finals after the Debacle in Detroit and see them use replay effectively.

    Comment by Jim K. — June 3, 2010 @ 12:41 am

  19. Yep, I think this is the best system for Instant Replay. Sadly I think if they do put more replay in they will probably stick with the same slow process of having all the umpires go inside for a bathroom break.

    Comment by windu — June 3, 2010 @ 12:43 am

  20. Do they use replay on penalty calls? Icing? Offsides? Why not?

    Comment by frank — June 3, 2010 @ 12:52 am

  21. The Twins just lost a game in the 10th because of a blown umpire call. Ichiro up with two outs, grounder to second base Tolbert, flips to Hardy at second, beats the runner by half a step. Hardy doesn’t throw to get the runner going home because he knows that he got the out at second, only…the umpire missed it. It should be the top of the eleventh, but as it stands the game is over. Bad night for the umpires.

    Comment by Jeremy — June 3, 2010 @ 1:02 am

  22. Obviously doesn’t compare to the perfect fiasco, but a replay umpire in a permanent booth would sure be nice, wouldn’t it. Minimal time delay, no replay on balls and strikes, no arguing after the replay is declared, all HR, fouls, catches, stolen bases, safe or outs are correct. Sounds perfect.

    Comment by Jeremy — June 3, 2010 @ 1:04 am

  23. Situations can be written into the replay rules…using your example, if I were writing the rule book, if the DP call was blown, the next batter comes to the plate with runners at 1st and 3rd. He wouldn’t have scored if it was a DP, as ruled by the umpire, but he doesn’t magically become out either.

    At the end of the day, nothing will be perfect, but pretty much anything is better than what we’ve seen over over the past week or so.

    Comment by spindoctor — June 3, 2010 @ 1:09 am

  24. If the ref calls icing but gets it wrong, faceoff in the offensive zone. The problem is that if he doesn’t call icing and it should have been, nothing will happen as play didn’t stop.

    Same issue for offsides….a blown offside call could move the faceoff inside the line, but if the ref lets it go and it should have been offside, nothing can be done as play continues.

    So I’ll point to those reasons as the “Why Not?”

    Penalty calls are subjective in every sport, and I really don’t see that ever changing.

    Comment by spindoctor — June 3, 2010 @ 1:15 am

  25. Can’t Galaragga appeal the call? I remember the Brewers appealing CC’s no hitter and Armando has a better case…

    Comment by David MVP Eckstein — June 3, 2010 @ 1:17 am

  26. The problem is, which umpire could honestly say they were in a position to have a better view of the play than Jim Joyce?

    Comment by Kevin S. — June 3, 2010 @ 1:28 am

  27. Expanding replay in baseball is beyond complex. 2 outs in the ninth with a runner on second. Batter loops a ball into right where the fielder makes a diving catch. Runner between 3rd and home sees the out call and peels off into foul territory to collect his glove to go out for the bottom of the ninth. Batter stopped running before he got to first. Replay shows the ball was trapped. What the heck do you do now? We could create scenarios all day with incorrect dead ball situations with no obvious or consistent remedy. This is a trivial one. Make up your own for the myriad routine “reviewable” plays that we see in EVERY game. It’s imperfect as is, but more perfect than replay will allow.

    Comment by shashi — June 3, 2010 @ 1:46 am

  28. Weakest near-perfect game of the season, maybe even ever…Three strikeouts? Why are bad/mediocre pitchers getting perfect games this season? First Dallas Braden, then Galarraga (almost)? Only Halladay’s was legit.

    Comment by Justin — June 3, 2010 @ 1:56 am

  29. Have you ever heard of a ground ball? A sinker? Ground balls are more efficient than strikeouts.

    Comment by J Bravo — June 3, 2010 @ 2:11 am

  30. Amen. I want expanded replay, but I want managers kept out of the process. I don’t want the added strategy of “when do I use my replay challenge.” I don’t trust most managers to handle that responsibility well.

    Comment by J Bravo — June 3, 2010 @ 2:13 am

  31. This is ridiculous. If you have ever played, you know that you don’t stop and you keep running because you never know. That hitter has been taught for years that you run through first base and you do the same at home plate.

    There needs to be a solution. There can simply be a college football type set-up. Each team gets a chance to appeal a call on the field, whether it be a safe/out call or fair/foul call.

    Comment by SallyMac22 — June 3, 2010 @ 2:17 am

  32. Count me in as another who has simply had enough of human writers that make human writing inefficiencies inherent in today’s human baseball blogs.

    Comment by Greg — June 3, 2010 @ 2:21 am

  33. while theyre at it: pitch f/x for strike zone calls.

    Comment by miles4099 — June 3, 2010 @ 2:29 am

  34. How about a system like tennis where each team has a set number of challenges? That would make judicious use of the finite challenges a real skill and not slow down the game too much.

    Comment by d — June 3, 2010 @ 2:29 am

  35. That’s why you’re the judge and I’m the Law-talking guy.

    Comment by Lionel Hutz — June 3, 2010 @ 2:36 am

  36. I would rather NOT have replay in the game any more than it is (at all, actually, but I’ll fight battles that I can win). Replay is a time sink and breaks up the natural momentum of the game. I am more than accepting of the human element in the game. If we didn’t enjoy the human element, then we’d have replaced live players with a computer playing with itself long ago (we have the technology!).

    Yes, errors by umpires suck. So do errors by players (hi, Bill Buckner!). Embrace the chaos and stop trying to control every little thing. Mistakes happen. Move on.

    Comment by JoeC — June 3, 2010 @ 3:15 am

  37. Well that’s like, your opinion man.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:17 am

  38. One step at a time. As much as I would love the balls and strikes to be determined by some sort of “much less flawed” computerized system, I don’t think it will ever happen.

    This, however, has been a swelling need for years.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:19 am

  39. You’re equating safe/out calls to penalties? Really? I hope this isn’t some veiled defense of baseball’s idiotic resistance to modern technology.

    Also, spindoctor: the linesmen call icing/offside, not the refs.

    P.S. It’s offside, not offsides.

    Comment by anon — June 3, 2010 @ 3:20 am

  40. Nobody cares either. Do you think the Indians gave up and stopped trying to hit because the lead became 3 runs instead of 1? Do you think Galarraga and the Tigers defense took a nap because of the extra cushion?

    I know what you’re saying, and that baseball is linear, but all you’re doing is throwing MORE evidence into the pile that replay has become an absolute NECESSITY.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:21 am

  41. Fun fact: NFL has reviews on penalties. Yep, that’s right, “subjective opinion making” has been given a second pair of eyes.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:22 am

  42. If you’re trying to dig at Cameron, a noted Mariner fan, for this, then he, like the rest of the Mariner fanbase, would gladly have let the game continue to whatever logical end if it meant that replay was in baseball and overruled that call.

    For now, we’ll take it (like we have a choice), but we don’t have to like it.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:24 am

  43. No. Appeals cannot be made on “safe / out” calls at a base, per MLB’s rules.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:24 am

  44. “Expanding replay in baseball is beyond complex.”

    Who gives a shit? So it’s complex. Did anybody say it would be easy to figure out? Why not let them actually discuss it, start a dialogue, hash out ideas, iron out the wrinkles; they didn’t do that once before making the original rules or anything; they haven’t modified the rules since or anything; they haven’t CHANGED THE GAME OF BASEBALL SEVERAL TIMES OR ANYTHING.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:26 am

  45. “Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they’re fascist. Throw more ground-balls… it’s more democratic.”

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:29 am

  46. “Replay is a time sink and breaks up the natural momentum of the game.”

    As opposed to managers and players standing around screaming at an umpire… for all the good it will do? Delays in the game due to catchers and pitchers stalling to help that bullpen arm get ready doesn’t fall into this category? Frankly this paranoia (and that’s all it is because it’s an unproven fear) is ludicrous.

    “I am more than accepting of the human element in the game. If we didn’t enjoy the human element, then we’d have replaced live players with a computer playing with itself long ago (we have the technology!).”

    WHOOPS! We’re not talking about the players here, cowboy. We’re talking about the guys who are supposed to do one thing and one thing only: enforce the rules as defined by major league baseball. Not make shit up as they go and not decide the game for the players when the proper play is made.

    “Yes, errors by umpires suck. So do errors by players (hi, Bill Buckner!).”

    Except that nobody wants to see an error by someone NOT PLAYING THE DAMN GAME. Errors by players, just like their hits, pitches, and other successes and failures, is what the game should be about. The players should be the ones making the errors, not the guys in the black shirts who aren’t playing the game.

    “Embrace the chaos and stop trying to control every little thing. Mistakes happen. Move on.”

    Embracing chaos in an “organized’ game is stupid.
    Not trying to control what can be controlled is stupid.
    Having to live with mistakes when they can easily be rectified is stupid.
    Moving on is stupid. I prefer outrage. It gets more shit done.

    Comment by The Typical Idiot Fan — June 3, 2010 @ 3:33 am

  47. Could give each team a few instant replay challenges per game.

    Not often do you get more than 3 blown calls against one team in a game.

    +6 minutes max

    additionals for extra innings

    Comment by bSpittle — June 3, 2010 @ 3:53 am

  48. Perhaps the resistance is not to replay but the unintended consequences….

    It’s like ignorantly voting someone for President for ‘change’, but forgetting to ask ‘change to what?’

    What does replay do with runners on base when a call in the field kills the play (a mistaken out call at a base or a catch)? Or do we only use replay when there are no other runners on or cases where there is no need for prediction & extrapolation of where runners could/should end up. Do we set up some rules? less than half way to the next base you have to turn around… or we could base it on distance from the potential throw. From the infield 1/2 way to the next base and you get it, from the outfield 22’3″ or more (give or take) and you get the next base? Or we could pull up the arm strength stats and ratio that distance to arm strength and accuracy… we could probably work up some sophisticated models to get it right. If I can’t even get a safe/out call at first right, now you’re going to need me to figure out where runners on base should be?

    Frankly I’d rather see replay for balls/strikes (if the tech is determined to be accurate enough) as that has a far greater impact on the game and aside from the occasional steal on an incorrectly called 4th ball, it would have no impact on live action..

    I actually find it a bit amusing that the proponents of replay often focus on the high visibility issue as opposed to the high impact issue and some even think we should just fix one mistake (calls in the field) but not another (balls and strikes). If you really want to lessen the impact of umpire mistakes on the game… balls/strikes is probably at least 90% of the problem. And if the goal is to get everything right than any sort of challenge system is ridiculous – just have the us umps flag any close play (or do the booth review type thing – there’s enough time after a play in the field to get a quick look at almost anything several times)

    I’m not saying the current replay is the ideal solution, but stuff being thrown out may not be ideal either and the issue is a bit more complex than the “just get it right” platitude.

    I wonder if there was a bad 3-2 ball call which resulted in a walk to breakup the perfect game if there would be an outcry to do replay of ball/strike calls (via pitch fx or some automated system). Squeaky wheel gets the prisoner of the moment (or something like that)

    Comment by Jim Joyce — June 3, 2010 @ 4:45 am

  49. I’m pretty sure the possibility of blowing a call as big as the one Joyce blew tonight would’ve convinced him to check the call.

    Comment by Murgatroid — June 3, 2010 @ 5:54 am

  50. I don’t care all that much either way. It’d be nice to have calls not blown as badly as this, but there will be many plays that will be inconclusive on replay or where they’ll reverse a call that shouldn’t be reversed. It happens. Overall I suppose it’s better than not doing it. Frankly, I just accept blown calls as part of life. People make like this is a travesty and Galaraga was somehow robbed of a place i history, but he’ll be famous for this, whether they adopt more replay or not, although it seems obvious that they will.

    Comment by wobatus — June 3, 2010 @ 7:15 am

  51. In your same scenario w/o replay, the umpires could get together and discuss it and decide that the ump who originally made the call and was wrong. After that they’ll decide on the best placement for the runners. The only difference is if there is replay, they’ll be more likely to get it right, get it right faster, AND probably be able to place the runners better. E.g. the replay ump can see the runner who started on 2nd was past the halfway-point, and therefore is awarded home.

    Comment by Mike K. — June 3, 2010 @ 7:55 am

  52. Did you actually watch the game? ‘Mando was pounding the strike zone, getting ahead of everyone, and then sinkered nearly everyone into an easy ground ball. He was masterful.

    Comment by Ryan — June 3, 2010 @ 8:19 am

  53. Where did he “take a dig at Cameron” in his reply? Simply by mentioning something that happened in a Mariner game?

    Comment by jGreen — June 3, 2010 @ 8:50 am

  54. “Jim Joyce”, Obama has NOTHING to do with baseball. The rest of your response is completely reasonable, but I doubt most people read past your completely incoherent shot at the president. Everyone needs to save their politics for the Glenn Beck and Keith Olbermann message boards. They have no place here.

    Comment by jGreen — June 3, 2010 @ 8:54 am

  55. Facebook movement to overturn the call made during the last play! Click to show your support:

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    Comment by Lansing Rocks — June 3, 2010 @ 9:08 am

  56. Some conferences in NCAA football do something pretty similar. Every play is reviewed upstairs. Most times the review is done before the next play starts anyway so there’s no delay apparent to the viewer. I think, generally speaking, that would be how it would go in baseball unless you were reviewing ball/strike calls. The large majority of calls aren’t close and even a lot of the ones that are are pretty obvious with slo-mo replay. I don’t think very many would take more than 30 seconds to review.

    Comment by don — June 3, 2010 @ 9:15 am

  57. More efficient, but less likely to result in a perfect game.

    Comment by don — June 3, 2010 @ 9:26 am

  58. That will never happen, and it shouldn’t. Obviously there are some bad ball and strike calls that happen, but it is part of the game and should be part of the game. Strike zones are very subjective, depends on the height of the player and the umpire. So, having a universal strike zone would be unnecessary and unattainable.

    However, instant replay on game changing plays like Gallarraga’s perfect game and the run at the plate in the Rays game should be looked at.

    Comment by Punto4MVP — June 3, 2010 @ 9:27 am

  59. “but there will be many plays that will be inconclusive on replay or where they’ll reverse a call that shouldn’t be reversed. ”

    Not if they use a system like football’s, where unless its clearly blown, it stands.

    Comment by Rich — June 3, 2010 @ 9:54 am

  60. The complexion of the game changes a bit if there is a 1-run cushion instead of a 3-run cushion. You play the inning differently if you need one run vs. 3. Although I don’t think it had an impact on last night’s game at all. If the leadoff man would have gotten on for the Indians in the 9th, then certainly the rest of the game would have played out much differently.

    Comment by davidk — June 3, 2010 @ 10:00 am

  61. “Replay is a time sink and breaks up the natural momentum of the game.”

    I guarantee that an ump in a replay booth would have overturned that call before Leyland had finished trotting out to first base.

    Comment by Rich — June 3, 2010 @ 10:04 am

  62. Just another LAME excuse to dismiss instant replay! Football also has similar scenarios. Team A fumbles the ball, Team B picks up the loose ball and the guy has a clear path to the endzone but the referee blows his whistle and rules ‘down by contact’. If the whistle blew after the change of posession, then at least replay would confirm that Team B should get the ball, but team B is still screwed out of a TD. But it is closer to correct to award Team B the ball than to let Team A keep it even if it is obvious that they didn’t deserve it.

    Comment by davidk — June 3, 2010 @ 10:13 am

  63. I am worried about delays, but I think there is a fix. I think there should be a new rule – each team gets two (non-substitution) mound visits per game. If you want to challenge a call, you lose one of those mound visits if the call stands. Even with adding instant replay, I think this change would have a net decrease on game time.

    Comment by jrdo410 — June 3, 2010 @ 10:42 am

  64. Hmm..
    Sounds like when they refused to check replay on their missed Hamilton home-run call. (Ball hit a support beam behind the wall and bounced back, got ruled a ground rule double, all instant replays very clearly showed it hitting beyond the playing field, Hamilton requested a replay and was told no.)

    If they’re going to implement instant replay, they need to actually USE it and there needs to be some way to push it.

    Comment by Philip — June 3, 2010 @ 10:45 am

  65. To be fair to the umpires on that one, the runner did this strange stutter step before the bag. The umpire was probably expecting him to slightly stretch his right foot to touch the bag (which would have been normal) instead of putting it down early. The replay seems to show his left heel grazing the bag. Going at real speed, I’m not surprised that the umpire didn’t see the contact, because it barely happened. Combine that with the unusual stutter step and you get a “missed base” call.

    Comment by siggian — June 3, 2010 @ 11:00 am

  66. Give them ZERO challenges, the replay official reviews every play, and he has the authority to stop the game to correct an error.

    This system is USED in multiple sports, and unlike the challenge system it doesn’t slow down the game.

    Comment by Doug Lampert — June 3, 2010 @ 11:39 am

  67. The question isn’t just why are some mediocre pitchers getting perfect games, but why have there been so many (essentially 3) in the past MONTH when there have only been 17 others in over 100 YEARS?

    Yes, I understand that there are bound to be “clusters” of sorts over time, but this seems too much of a coincidence to be THIS clustered. So, a couple of things come to mind:

    (1) Steroid era is over, so balls that might have left the park or hit over an OF’s head a few years ago are turning into outs now.

    (2) teams are valuing defense a lot more than they used to, probably as a result of item (1) above. So now there are more players out there like an Austin Jackson who had to run about a mile to catch the first out in the 9th that could very well have ended the perfecto right there.

    But somehow this doesn’t seem to fully explain it. I mean, if Gallaraga and Braden can do it, why can’t some of the other even BETTER pitchers do it? It’s a really interesting topic to think about, even if there’s no really good answer to explain it.

    Comment by davidk — June 3, 2010 @ 11:53 am

  68. I think the label of “typcial idiot fan” is on the WRONG poster above!

    Comment by davidk — June 3, 2010 @ 11:55 am

  69. Damn I hate FaceCRAP

    Comment by davidk — June 3, 2010 @ 11:56 am

  70. MLB revsered the outcome of the Pine Tar George Brett call out by saying
    the call was not made in “in the berst interest of the game”.

    Why cant MLB again say the umpires error was Not in the Spirit of the Game
    and award the perfect game. Joyce would need to sign a statement he is reversing the call after a PROTEST by the Tigers. WHy have they not even
    protested the game. Are they not allowed to file a protest under
    ‘unusual and rare” circumstances , (the call cost a pefect Game, only
    20 of which have ever beeb thrown). Tigers Mus tprotest game.
    Joyce must sign statement he blew call. MLB mus award the Pefect game.
    it is wrong not to. if they gave Brett a HR after being legally called OUTm theycan give him his pefect Game.

    Comment by david k — June 3, 2010 @ 11:57 am

  71. The appeal on that one was a hit vs an error, the Brewers wanted it ruled an error, thus preserving the no-hitter. They weren’t appealing that the runner was out. So it wouldn’t work to preserve a perfect game. Besides, it didn’t work.

    Comment by Benjamin — June 3, 2010 @ 12:23 pm

  72. You do realize that while Pitch F/X gives good data, it’s not infallible and especially enough to use as a true strike zone?

    Comment by nuhusky41 — June 3, 2010 @ 1:36 pm

  73. MLB needs a full blown replay system, with the caveat, play is not delayed anymore than it is now. To accomplish such a goal, a skilled official will have to be stationed in a replay both and he or she and only he or she will be granted the authority to change a call. Each Manager will be given 2 challenges and can only challenge the following…………..

    Force outs (no tag plays)
    Homerun (fair or fail)
    Homerun (over the wall)
    Fan interference
    player interference (catcher v batter, fielder v runner)

    Keep things relatively simple and let the eye in the sky make the final call, he/she is on the clock too, max 2 minutes per call.

    ……………in the meantime, start putting coaches/managers/ and players on the clock. If you lolly-gag and hold up the game, you are penalized a ball (pitcher) or a strike (hitter).

    If Baseball really wants to get serious about this issue, they will expand to 5 man umpiring groups with a stop in the replay booth as part of the rotation.

    TX

    Comment by TxDodger73 — June 3, 2010 @ 2:35 pm

  74. Only black and white rules can be protested. For example if a team batted out of order, the opposing manager could let it slide at the time of infraction, and if he lost the game, he could later protest the other team batting out of order.

    A judgement call, whether a player was safe or out cannot be protested.

    TX

    Comment by TxDodger73 — June 3, 2010 @ 2:41 pm

  75. Well, since you’ve made just a thoughtful and air-tight argument, I have no choice but to bow to you, madam.

    Comment by J. B. Rainsberger — June 3, 2010 @ 2:47 pm

  76. I agree that, in such a clear case, Joyce would check the call. What about in a borderline case? I don’t know how much better it is to have managers and umpires arguing over the call, or arguing over whether to check the call.

    Comment by J. B. Rainsberger — June 3, 2010 @ 3:49 pm

  77. Did the TB broadcast show another angle, because the Toronto broadcast’s angle was inconclusive about Rodriguez touching third base. I suppose it’s possible Rodriguez’s heel grazed the bag, but the call is it stood looked quite reasonable to me.

    Comment by J. B. Rainsberger — June 3, 2010 @ 3:52 pm

  78. Selig’s decision not to reverse the call borders on criminal; I understand that baseball does want to review this game based upon the sanctity of historical records and the inevitable demand to reverse other calls, however, this was the last out made, the umpire admitted the error and its clearly obvious from the tape.
    There have only been 20 perfect games ever… make that 21. As fans we need to revolt…. Baseball fans should not stand for this miscarriage of justice. Bud, efyou

    Comment by karl — June 3, 2010 @ 4:42 pm

  79. There was absolutely no dig at anyone. I am a Twins fan, I saw the missed call, I commented. And yes, I believe that Cameron, and most fans, would like to play the game properly; just as I was upset when the Twins got the final out of a game against the Royals on a horrible horrible call.

    Comment by Jeremy — June 3, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

  80. The replay thing and Joyce call has been covered quite extensively, but one thing that gets overlooked is the ease in which making a consistent strike zone could be implemented. The differences in umpires strike zones are so pronounced that it’s no wonder some players just give up and hack at everything. I’d much rather have human error on the bases and a computerized strike zone that will actually call the low pitch. By the time the catcher catches a properly thrown slow curve the ball is often deemed to be quite low by the umpire, but when it CROSSED the plate it was at the knees. If batters want to wipe out the back of the box and have the catcher sit 6 feet behind the plate, they should have to deal with the low strike. I watch 1-3 games most nights and most games have 4-5 ball strike calls that change the course of a game much more than any call on the bases can. In Halladay’s perfect game he had 7 three ball counts and got quite a few borderline calls that could have impacted the game. The odds that an ump like Joe West is going to call a low scoring game is exceedingly low and almost impossible unless the pitchers both have overpowering stuff that enables them to pound the shobox sized strike zone or they have a lucky night with balls in play. West is the first to complain about length of game but calls nothing below the mid thigh. If baseball wants to move games along and give pitchers with non ace stuff a change to compete they need to open up the strike zone, notably the bottom of said zone. If the hollow of the knee is call as the ball crosses or even passes the plate you are looking at a new world for a pitcher with borderline stuff.

    Comment by Carl Willingham — June 3, 2010 @ 4:54 pm

  81. Football replay is the worst, everyone assumes it works but it doesn’t. Pay close attention, they blow 50% of the calls ON REPLAY. WHO IS GOiNG TO REPLAY THE REPLAYERS?

    Comment by TedWilson — June 3, 2010 @ 7:49 pm

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