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  1. Clearly I’m an Indians fan, but if he can hit with power, hit for average, and walk nearly as much as he strikes out why couldn’t he put up 7 or 8 WAR seasons. I’m not expecting it, but it seems reasonably possible.

    Comment by Mason — June 11, 2010 @ 2:22 pm

  2. “He produced the third highest WAR (4.6) amongst third basemen in ’09, and the seventh highest in the Majors.”

    I think there must be a typo or a missing word here. Maybe he was the third highest among _NL_ third basemen?

    Comment by WY — June 11, 2010 @ 2:24 pm

  3. It’s much harder to do all of those things at the big league level, and he will almost certainly do all of them at a much lower rate.

    It’s never “reasonably possible” for a player to put up 7 or 8 WAR reasons until they’ve already proven they can do so at the MLB level. That’s MVP-caliber performance.

    Comment by OremLK — June 11, 2010 @ 2:31 pm

  4. Yeah, that was the fan in me typing that first post.

    Comment by Mason — June 11, 2010 @ 2:55 pm

  5. It is funny that top catching prospects defensive skills suddenbly become up to standard around late May and early June.

    Comment by Monty — June 11, 2010 @ 2:57 pm

  6. Posey or Santana (or Soto ><)?

    Comment by keithr — June 11, 2010 @ 3:08 pm

  7. dis catcher palys a mean gitar hell yes dude

    Comment by niiiiiiigggggaaaa — June 11, 2010 @ 3:46 pm

  8. Sure, in the long run, this could be a bad deal. But in the short run, the Dodgers are no where near the team they are w/o Blake at 3B. The Twins would kill to have Blake over there (which they could have, but didn’t because he’s “too old”). Sure, Santana could be good to great for years, but there is value in the short term payoff here.

    Comment by Mike in MN — June 11, 2010 @ 4:26 pm

  9. The Dodgers had to sign Blake to a three year deal in order to have him at third in 2009-2011.

    The Dodgers traded Carlos Santana and Jon Meloan for two months of Casey Blake in 2008 and cash.

    Comment by ChadMOKM — June 11, 2010 @ 5:48 pm

  10. Actually, if I recall correctly, the Twins were in a bidding war with the Dodgers that offseason. They went a year more and a few million more and won him. If you wanted him on the Twins, they could have had him for money.

    Comment by ChadMOKM — June 11, 2010 @ 5:49 pm

  11. Are you asking which will contribute more WAR this year, or over the course of their careers (to the extent we can project that)?

    Or is this purely a fantasy roster question?

    Comment by joser — June 11, 2010 @ 7:17 pm

  12. Santana was awful at the plate in his debut. Man, these prospects are all too over-hyped. And yes I expect instant success if he is going to be hyped.

    Comment by Slick — June 11, 2010 @ 10:03 pm

  13. Not sure how you can base that on one game, or generalize it to the other prospects. First games for the other guys on the top 10 list, if that’s indeed what you want to look at:

    Strasburg: 7 IP, 2 R, 14 K, 0 BB
    Heyward: 2-5, HR, 4 RBI
    Posey: 3-4, 3 RBI
    Stanton: 3-5, 2 R

    And they’re doing well overall too. Heyward has a .393 wOBA and Posey’s is close to .500 in limited time. Strasburg has just the one game, and Stanton’s played only 3 (5-14, 2B, 3B), but both have done well.

    Comment by Twin — June 11, 2010 @ 10:54 pm

  14. Santana’s low pb numbers this year could also be due to pitchers not being willing to throw a 2-strike breaking pitch in the dirt as well.

    At some point, we’ll wait for prospects to perform at the MLB level before we start salivating.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — June 12, 2010 @ 12:51 am

  15. Unless the team has an old, fat, useless, but mystifyingly well respected incumbent at the catching position holding on to his starting job with a steely death grip, in which case the prospect still can’t play defense.

    Comment by BillWallace — June 12, 2010 @ 3:59 pm

  16. What are your thoughts on Justin Smoak. I have held onto him and he’s rebounding somewhat. I have Huff, Adrian Gonzalez and now Mike Napoli at 1B. Should I continue to DL Brad Lidge for Justin Smoak? I am in a keeper league.

    Comment by theseanald — June 12, 2010 @ 5:17 pm

  17. I saw him a bit today. There are guys that hit the ball hard with hard swings, But Santana seems to be one of those guys that hits the ball hard with just his regular swing. By “hard swing” I’m referring to the all or nothing type swings. Like say Mark Reynolds.

    The announcers were pretty spot on about Santana’s ability and going from MiLB right into the 3-hole.

    Santana sorta resembles a VMart-Panda type with stance and swing path.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — June 13, 2010 @ 9:00 pm

  18. He needs to learn to not block the plate when Adam Dunn is casually strolling into home.

    I like that this kid can take a walk too, he’s seems really mature in his plate discipline.

    Comment by Clayton — June 14, 2010 @ 9:12 am

  19. Yup, but as I said, they thought he was too old for a three year deal. His numbers look like the best player in all of baseball compared to what the Twins are getting from 3B this year.

    Comment by Mike in MN — June 14, 2010 @ 10:58 am

  20. I have to say, that was hilarious. Not only was the collision comical in itself, but the way all his equipment flew off into an instant yard sale made it better than a cartoon.

    Comment by joser — June 14, 2010 @ 3:03 pm

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