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  1. Woah, the Angels have a new Francisco Rodriguez!? I thought that was a typo!

    Comment by Ellis — July 1, 2010 @ 11:01 am

  2. I co-worker and I were discussing Vlad’s Hall of Fame chances.

    For kicks, I did a search on career ISO of at least .240, and a K-rate of less than 16%.

    Vlad checks in at .247 / 12.3%. (I picked 16% since Ruth’s is 15.8%)

    The are are only 11 others in that group, and they are all legends: Ruth, Williams, Gehrig, (Barry) Bonds, Pujols, Mays, DiMaggio, Aaron, Frank Robinson, Mize, and Kiner.

    Also, Vlad is 14th all-time in slugging, 21st in OPS, 101st in wRC, 68th in wRAA, 73rd in wRC+.

    Just numbers, yes, but he’s already in very elite company. A couple more healthy years and he should be a no-doubter first ballot.

    Comment by Markoz — July 1, 2010 @ 11:10 am

  3. I’m with you Markoz, I think he’s a first-ballot HOFer. Looking at his stats next to Jimmie Foxx’s, they seem very similar (Foxx had more power in his prime, but Vlad had the speed).

    Comment by Ellis — July 1, 2010 @ 11:17 am

  4. btw, I can’t find a list of the HOF’ers who didn’t wear batting gloves.

    Comment by Markoz — July 1, 2010 @ 11:21 am

  5. I don’t even think he needs a couple more healthy years for this.

    Comment by Adam D — July 1, 2010 @ 11:27 am

  6. Vlad should be/will be a 1st ballot HoFer, but his stats are only similar to Foxx’s in the way that Early Wynn’s are similar to Tom Seaver’s. Vlad’s speed doesn’t quite offset Foxx’s power advantage (2.14 Relative-ISO vs. 1.53 Relative-ISO) and much higher walk rate (102 per 162 games vs. 59 per 162 games).

    Comment by Mark — July 1, 2010 @ 11:52 am

  7. First Milton Bradley two years ago, and now Vlad this year. The Rangers seem to know a thing or two about filling in the DH spot.

    Comment by suicide squeeze — July 1, 2010 @ 11:54 am

  8. I looked up the numbers for Vlad and his power numbers were very very very consistent in regards to HRs and Slugging over his career. Roids, does he get a pass or does he get the unfortunate inclusion into the roid era?

    Comment by oompaloopma — July 1, 2010 @ 12:01 pm

  9. Aye. It’s just too bad they needed Hank Blalock to fill the void between those two.

    Comment by Or — July 1, 2010 @ 12:04 pm

  10. Markoz: you are so right. Long live Vlad The Impaler.

    Comment by Juan — July 1, 2010 @ 12:08 pm

  11. Also, Sammy Sosa, Andruw Jones, Brad Fullmer, and Phil Nevin.

    Can’t win ’em all, I suppose…

    Comment by Daniel — July 1, 2010 @ 12:14 pm

  12. Not at all to denigrate Vlad’s considerable HOF chances; just don’t put too much stock into the arguments like “only players with ISO of (x) and K-rate of less than (y)”. As Bill James elegantly pointed out in “Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame?” you can move those goal posts wherever you like to get your candidate of choice in with some pretty select company (as you yourself did in your own example, choosing a 16% K-rate to purposefully include Ruth).

    It’s kind of a neat parlor trick, but should be pretty heavily discounted as a HOF argument.

    Comment by Jason B — July 1, 2010 @ 12:32 pm

  13. helps to bat in Arlington. a hitters paradise!

    Comment by PhD Brian — July 1, 2010 @ 12:39 pm

  14. touche

    Comment by suicide squeeze — July 1, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

  15. If you ask me, he is a Hall of Famer, but first ballot status is still up for debate. I feel that First ballot induction should be reserved for the best of the best, and small things can make a big difference. For example post season success: in 192 PAs in postseason Vlad has a wOBA of only .328. He has slugged a measly .376 in the postseason. That has to count some against him.

    Comment by PhD Brian — July 1, 2010 @ 12:48 pm

  16. I think that the fact that he lied about his age will reflect poorly on him when the he is being considered for HoF induction. Not so much because he was older than he said, but because it may cause some writers to question whether or not he used steroids. There’s never been any proof Vlad’s juiced, but he’s already proven he would lie about his age to gain a competitive advantage, so could he also be juicing?

    Comment by Bill — July 1, 2010 @ 1:12 pm

  17. Except his away numbers are very good with 8 HRs 292 .341 .517 .858, and this year he apparently hates day games though, and it absolutely loving the angels ballpark which is really odd.

    Comment by oompaloompa — July 1, 2010 @ 2:44 pm

  18. I think Latin players lying about there age and players taking PEDa are two different situations, although one could place them under the same umbrella of ‘cheating’.

    Personally, I think Vlad is just one of those mega-talented players that is so talented he can be successful while doing some things wrong (like swinging at everything). Every time I hear Vlad’s name, I think of the throw home from the RF corner at Montreal. The guy is just a freak. He’s the guy you don’t want to guard in pick-up basketball or stand next to in the locker room. Natural born athlete.

    As a side point, does anyone know what amount he was signed for? He seems to be one of those guys that would have signed for a large soda, a sandwich, and a pair of shoes … Wheras an American counterpart would have received a 1st round bonus.

    He just seems like ‘that guy’ that could jump over a car, throw a ball over the school, or any other dare/bet one could think of.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — July 1, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

  19. Does Vlad go in the HOF as an Expo or Angel? I say as an Expo.

    Comment by stolenbases — July 1, 2010 @ 11:16 pm

  20. I agree that he’ll definately go in as an Expo. I guess that would make him the last Expo to make it into the hall.

    Comment by Mitchell — July 1, 2010 @ 11:40 pm

  21. He has been one of the most feared and entertaining hitters in baseball the last 15 years, and the stats back it up. His ridiculous hand-eye coordination and unique skill set of being able to hit ANY pitch, in ANY count, WITH AUTHORITY is what puts him into the Hall of Fame on the 1st ballot…… Long live the Impaler!

    Comment by DonCoburleone — July 2, 2010 @ 2:24 am

  22. I second DonCoburleone. ANY pitch, ANY count, WITH AUTHORITY = 1st ballot.

    Also, I am a hitting god playing catcher.

    Comment by Carlos Santana — July 2, 2010 @ 6:59 am

  23. You can also play a wicked guitar as well!

    Comment by stolenbases — July 2, 2010 @ 7:38 am

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