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  1. How did he do it?

    Garza faced a struggling, injury depleted lineup in an era of increased drug testing. That’s how.

    Oh, and for what it’s worth, Scherzer had a no-hitter himself before getting jobbed on the interference call and wound up surrending the Grand Slam.

    Comment by Roid Cycle Down — July 26, 2010 @ 11:42 pm

  2. God, you sound so butthurt it’s sickening.

    Comment by Sure thing bro — July 26, 2010 @ 11:58 pm

  3. Why does everyone think that increased drug testing only hurts hitters? Pitchers have used roids as well.

    Comment by Jon — July 27, 2010 @ 12:05 am

  4. The no-hitters seem to have fairly low K numbers…

    Comment by Jeff Francoeur — July 27, 2010 @ 12:07 am

  5. How would you know anything about low K totals Mr. Francoeur?

    Comment by Smallball Tony — July 27, 2010 @ 12:14 am

  6. Zing

    Comment by DW — July 27, 2010 @ 12:20 am

  7. While it’s certainly impressive and I’m not trying to take away anything from Garza, but the Tigers lineup is awful.

    1) Jackson, as well documented, has a BABIP fueled .317 AVG, and has struggled mightily since April
    2) If you shut down Miguel Cabrera, this lineup is pretty no-hittable any day of the week.
    3) Boesch has something like one hit since the all-star break
    4) Gerald Laird would be a backup catcher or in the minors on any other team in baseball
    5) Will Rhymes, Don Kelly, Ryan Raburn, and Danny Worth are all virtually AAAA players at this point.

    Comment by Josh — July 27, 2010 @ 12:36 am

  8. So many bitter haters. Way to go Matty G!!

    Comment by SSO — July 27, 2010 @ 12:50 am

  9. It will sound like sour grapes, but the ump had a strike zone like a rectangle several inches off each corner. Then was calling a high strike over the top of the strike zone. I had the rays feed and both scales and kev kennedy said upton was out at second on the steal. The catchers interference could have been ignored, maybe considering how like many players the batter crawford had his left foot behind the chalk line.
    The Tigers had 6 rookies, yeah Jackson and Boesch have been playing regularly, and overall well, outside of a slump in July for Boesch, but still Rhymes, Kelly, Worth, and Laird is about 20 points below the mendoza line, and Raburn, well he is really a platoon player and should be in against lefty pitchers. But with 3 starters gone in 5 days, it’s a mash unit.
    After all that, I do congratulate garza for pitching an outstanding game. His 4 seamer had some great movement on it. Add in a couple of line drives right at crawford and zobrist, a bit of luck too which you need to maske this kind of history. Excellent pitching. Tigers fans just move on to the next game and hope for the best with Cabrera, Damon, and the AAAA munchkins. Dombrowski has his work cut out for him the next 4 days, and whatever he does, won’t be enough for this what was really a transition year for the Tigers.

    Comment by Nikolai Volkoff — July 27, 2010 @ 12:51 am

  10. Jackson struggled for 5 or 6 weeks from mid May and June but he has turned it on again in July batting .354 with a .906OPS and since the All Star break he’s hitting .444 with a 1.112OPS. But yeah other than that I agree with the rest of this. Laird sucks big time, and Rhymes, Kelly, Raburn and Worth are mediocre offensively to say the least. Definitely one of the weaker major league lineups you’ll see. With that said though it’s still tough to throw a no-hitter no matter who you face so hats off to him.

    Comment by Dwight S. — July 27, 2010 @ 12:57 am

  11. Yeah the Tigers definitely got the short end of the stick from the umps. Just compare the strikezone plot between the starters.

    Here’s Scherzer’s

    You can see 7 balls that were clearly in the K zone called balls, while only getting called 1 strike that should’ve been a ball.

    Now here’s Garza’s. I only see 1 ball that was clearly in the zone that was called a ball and 6 or 7 that were out of the zone that were called strikes.

    Now I know these things aren’t 100% accurate but I thought I saw this with the naked eye watching the telecast and this only adds to my suspicions.

    Comment by Dwight S. — July 27, 2010 @ 1:16 am

  12. Don’t most? It’s hard to strike out nine or 10 guys and still make it through nine innings.

    Comment by Teej — July 27, 2010 @ 1:22 am

  13. You got burned by this one Roid Cycle Down.

    Comment by Josh — July 27, 2010 @ 1:28 am

  14. Looked like the bat hit Laird’s glove, rules are rules bub.

    Comment by Josh — July 27, 2010 @ 1:33 am

  15. It’s amusing on how people are focused on Detroit’s injuries, as though this is the first time a team has ever been hit by injuries and forced to play backups. The Orioles were a bad team on Opening Day, AND THEN injuries reduced their lineup to a bunch of AAA players – and they never got no-hit, because getting a no-hitter is both lucky/flukey and really hard.

    Congrats to Garza on an amazing game. I hope we see, like, six more no-nos before the year is over.

    Comment by TheImpossibleMan — July 27, 2010 @ 1:40 am

  16. Garza also banged your mother after the game.

    Right on the pitchers mound.


    Comment by Jimmy — July 27, 2010 @ 1:48 am

  17. I thought only Scott Baker threw a “flour-seamer”…

    Comment by Buizly — July 27, 2010 @ 2:15 am

  18. More like “floor-seamer” amirite?

    Comment by TheImpossibleMan — July 27, 2010 @ 2:22 am

  19. A hitter using PEDs to increase bat speed will benefit more from a pitcher using PEDs to increase velo/leg strength and career length. Offense is down because PED use is down. It is only a theory, but it leans more towards scientific fact.

    Comment by West — July 27, 2010 @ 2:27 am

  20. Based on my observation the strike zone is larger this year, this causes hitters to swing at more balls out of the zone, and generally makes it easier for the pitcher. Thus more no hitters and more pitcher flirting with no hitters.

    If you look at Fan Graphs O-Swing data, you will see the weighted average of teams O-Swing% has increased from 25.1% in 2009 to 28.9% in 2010. That’s a 15% jump. Seems significant, and supports my hypothesis that it’s the strike zone.

    Also, the wild swings in HR rates in the AL from 2008 to 2009 (up 13% and 2009 to 2010 (down 17%) while the NL rates have been relatively stable smacks of some funny business with the ball, either at the MLB level or the team level.

    Comment by pft — July 27, 2010 @ 3:03 am

  21. Why does everyone horribly misuse the phrase “sour grapes”?

    Comment by BIP — July 27, 2010 @ 3:04 am

  22. i thought only the white sox and royals were AAAAers.

    Comment by macseries — July 27, 2010 @ 3:23 am

  23. Meanings of phrases are dictated by popular usage. If “everyone” is using it a certain way, then they are using it correctly, and Wikipedia is wrong.

    Comment by Joe D. — July 27, 2010 @ 4:25 am

  24. That begs the question…

    Comment by Todd Doug — July 27, 2010 @ 4:34 am


    Comment by Dallas Braden — July 27, 2010 @ 11:43 am

  26. “this lineup is pretty no-hittable any day of the week.”

    Um…no. Don’t oversell your point by making an outlandish, hyperbolic claim like that. “The lineup was below average,” or something to that effect, will do just fine. =)

    Comment by Jason B — July 27, 2010 @ 11:49 am

  27. Not really. No-hitters simply highlight the difference between using K/9 and K%. Six strikeouts in nine innings looks unimpressive (the league average is about 7 K/9, after all), but when you only face 27 batters (as both Garza and Braden did), it’s actually very good–22%, compared to the major league rate of about 18%. Only 21 starting pitchers in the majors this year (out of 110 qualifying) have struck out at least 22% of the batters they’ve faced. Roy Halladay, Felix Hernandez, and Ubaldo Jimenez are all at about the 22% mark for the season.

    Comment by DavidJ — July 27, 2010 @ 11:49 am

  28. Oh my god, I’m dying over here at Dallas Braden.

    Comment by bonestock94 — July 27, 2010 @ 11:51 am

  29. 2nd no-hitter/pg I’ve had to root against this year.

    Comment by bonestock94 — July 27, 2010 @ 11:54 am

  30. While the point still stands, it’s a bit odd that Gerald Laird wasn’t mentioned in this piece. Laird is maybe the very worst hitter in major league baseball, bench players excluded (and even if they’re included maybe). Also, no mention of the fact that Leyland didn’t send a single pinch hitter up there. Pathetic and, frankly, just dumb.

    Comment by OaklandDan — July 27, 2010 @ 12:51 pm

  31. Dumb of Leyland, I mean, not Jack Moore.

    Comment by OaklandDan — July 27, 2010 @ 12:53 pm

  32. Oops, my mistake. Santiago pinch hit, but still, it’s Santiago. No Avila, no Larish, etc.

    Comment by OaklandDan — July 27, 2010 @ 1:09 pm

  33. Leyland was kicked out of the game early on, so any managerial complaints should be directed toward Gene Lamont

    Comment by Dave Wagner — July 27, 2010 @ 2:16 pm

  34. Actually Lloyd McClendon takes over when Leyland gets kicked out so you can’t blame Leyland on this one.(even though I’m sure he’d probably do the same thing) But to their defense it’s not like the Tigers have many great options on the bench, I believe all they had was Larish, Santiago, Avila and Sizemore and none of them are exactly offensive juggernauts. Personally I think Rhymes has no business seeing a major league field, let alone batting 2nd so I guess Sizemore could’ve PH for him but his last AB was in the 7th inning so he might have figured the Tigers were gonna muster up a hit after that.

    Comment by Dwight S. — July 27, 2010 @ 3:33 pm

  35. Some of the responses here are true gold :D

    Comment by Josh — July 27, 2010 @ 5:45 pm

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