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  1. I think you mean .251 wOBA (or something similar), not .511.

    What interest do the DBacks have in Church in Crosby? They must be really desperate for bullpen help.

    Comment by Jeff Francoeur — July 31, 2010 @ 1:20 pm

  2. .511 for both of them put together. Church .248, Croz .263.

    Comment by matt w — July 31, 2010 @ 1:22 pm

  3. Seems like a good deal for the Pirates, they unloaded some crap (Church and Crosby) and a decent reliever for a guy that is capable of starting. Doumit was so terrible defensively it was hard to watch him behind the plate on a nightly basis.

    Comment by Justin — July 31, 2010 @ 1:59 pm

  4. I believe the Pirates broadcasters mentioned his nickname used to be (is?) Ryan No-Mitt.

    Too bad Jeff Clement never panned out.

    Comment by Padman Jones — July 31, 2010 @ 2:56 pm

  5. that’s still his nickname and will forever be his nickname

    Comment by bucsfan — July 31, 2010 @ 3:51 pm

  6. Chris Snyder is a good guy and popular player. He’s got a little “Chrash Davis” in him. When Zavada was called up and showed up in blue jeans and a polo shirt, Snyder took him out and had him fitted for some dress clothes, paid for them, and sat him down and went over the ML daily routine.

    No, I’m not suggesting that this counts in WAR, or should … Only stating that an upgrade at the position and a good mentor in the clubhouse on a young team has some value.

    They traded away stuff they didn’t want, for something they can use. Good move.

    I don’t understand what the DBacks are doing. They keep trading away guys for little in return.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — July 31, 2010 @ 5:25 pm

  7. Most of the saberists and saber-groupies I know believe wholeheartedly in the unquantifiable values of players.

    Also, Neal Huntington is becoming one of my favorite GM’s. As a Royals fan, I have no difficulty living vicariously through the peasant Pirates.

    Comment by 3rd Period Points — July 31, 2010 @ 5:58 pm

  8. If you guys really can’t comprehend that this is a salary dump, why do you have jobs? Crosby and Church are gone after the year, and Carrasco can be too if he doesn’t pitch well.

    Comment by Jason — July 31, 2010 @ 6:32 pm

  9. Yeah, really I was just sharing a story that I thought was pretty cool. Most ML vets look right past rookies, especially a shirt-inning relief guy. Chris Snyder was very well liked by the AZ staff. Of course most if those guys (Haren, Garland, Davis, etc) are gone.

    The Pirates are making some decent under the radar moves. They’re just so far away due to lack of quality SPs.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — July 31, 2010 @ 7:42 pm

  10. Very cool story. It sounds like Snyder could have a positive effect on the Bucs young SP’s, such as they are.

    You’re right about the rotation, obviously. Huntington’s going to have to be both lucky and good in the coming drafts in order to add something to the back of the rotation arms currently eating innings in Pittsburgh.

    Comment by 3rd Period Points — July 31, 2010 @ 9:33 pm

  11. Because you don’t salary dump a cheap good young player. He was worth more than his salary. The D-Backs could’ve gotten something for him AND gotten out from under the salary, but they only got out from under the salary. There are 28 teams right now that are wondering why they didn’t get Snyder if he was so cheap.

    Comment by Ari Collins — August 1, 2010 @ 10:51 am

  12. This years draft was key for the Bucs. We could get a legit no. 2 and have choices at the back end. In the end though, unless they really luck out on a draft, I believe their first big leap into the free agent pool is going to have to be on a quality ace. It might be time to consolidate some of these past their prospect status guys into something tangible.

    Comment by Ryan S — August 1, 2010 @ 11:11 am

  13. Either that or they’re going to have to find some “not obvious prospects” in the mold of Garrett Jones, Ryan Ludwick, Randy Wells, etc … Whose teams have classified them as “career minor leager” but haven’t been given a real shot at ML.

    Fortunately for PIT they are in a position to play some guys that wouldn’t get adequate playing time for other teams, so there’s a chance at finding some DeJesus’s, Polanco’s, etc and have them be good values at a low cost. Looking at the really good teams minor leagues for some 26-28 year old types that could be had for cheap might not be a bad idea.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — August 1, 2010 @ 6:07 pm

  14. Snyder will have an immediate impact as teams won’t run all over the Pirates anymore. In fact, he just threw out Brandon B-Real Phillips in the first inning of today’s game vs. the Reds. Doumit can’t field any position well. This was a good move by the Pirates.

    Comment by Jason — August 4, 2010 @ 1:23 pm

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