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  1. Surprise, surprise. Dayton Moore bringing in more former Braves.

    Comment by Frank Costanza — July 31, 2010 @ 5:57 pm

  2. Surprise, Surprise. Trading with the Braves will actually net you former Braves!

    Comment by frozendesert — July 31, 2010 @ 6:04 pm

  3. Maybe I’m wrong, but hasn;t the Braves farm system over the last 10 years been one of the better ones?

    With Ankiel, weren’t the Royals hoping from a rebound from injury for decent contract?

    Somebody has to play the positions for the Royals, shouldn;t they try to get the best players they can?

    I’m not saying Ankiel was “the best player”, but clearly they were hoping for a rebound from injury, and Anky had no spot in StL with Rasmus taking over CF.

    It didn’t work out, but they aren’t NYY, BOS, PHL, etc where they’ll just make another deal for abetter player and double the money.

    I’m not sure who would be in the lineup if the critics ran the Royals? The problem with the Royals in the past is that all of their prospects were the same guy … “1st base types without much power”.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — July 31, 2010 @ 6:28 pm

  4. It actually was a surprise. Dayton Moore getting the better end of a trade?

    Comment by kbertling353 — July 31, 2010 @ 6:29 pm

  5. Let’s see…Gordon, Kila, Maier (not great, and not really a prospect, but making the minimum is about as big of an attribute as you can have in KC)…defending the Royals is a losing battle.

    Comment by TCQ — July 31, 2010 @ 6:45 pm

  6. Blanco is the only guy was actually on the Braves last year. I’d consider Chavez and Collins to be a former Pirate and a former Blue Jay respectively. Collins hadn’t even been a Braves farmhand for a month yet.

    Comment by Nitram Odarp — July 31, 2010 @ 6:53 pm

  7. Don’t have a problem with Ankiel the player, but I do think he was a bit pricy. The real bad contract is Farnsworth’s.

    Comment by Jack Moore — July 31, 2010 @ 7:06 pm

  8. The point is this does nothing for the Braves extreme vulnerability to LHP, and the horrifying defensive performance they’ve gotten in CF. They get a guy who can’t hit lefties, and isn’t much in CF, while trading away the one guy who was at least tolerable there. I really have no idea what the Braves are trying to accomplish here. They needed a good RH hitter, and proceeded to get a pretty pedestrian lefty, and reduced their already bleak defensive CF options for good measure.

    Comment by spike — July 31, 2010 @ 7:23 pm

  9. I thought the bad contracts were Guillen and Meche.

    The Royals seem to be under the impression that they are close to competing, kinda like HOU this year.

    It seems now that maybe both teams realize it’s time for full scale rebuilding.

    I know he’s a great value, but Grienke isn’t helping the Royals compete. I used to think a guy like that would bring 2-3 close to MLB ready talented prospects under team control for 4+ years, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — July 31, 2010 @ 7:31 pm

  10. My guess is they’ll go platoon all the way.

    vs. LHP – Diaz (who CRUSHES LHP better than anyone not named Pujols), Melky (he’s slightly better vs. LHP than RHP though both suck), Heyward

    vs. RHP – Hinske, Ankiel, Heyward

    Personally, I hope they move Heyward to CF. Even though he’s most likely worse in CF than in RF, both Melky and Ankiel are below-average in CF (understatement for Ankiel). But Ankiel is a plus defender in the corners (albeit in a small sample) and Melky is less worse in the corners. Unless Heyward is somehow a -10 in CF (compared to being +11.7 in RF), it should be a net gain overall.

    Though it’s doubtful Bobby does anything like this. He actually thought Nate McLouth was a GOOD CF.

    Comment by Nick — July 31, 2010 @ 8:09 pm

  11. I think Tim Collins is the key to this deal. He turns 21 this month and has posted solid K/9’s at every level—15.32 K/9 in 2010 (career 13.37) with a 2.39 FIP (career 2.43) and a 0.96 WHIP (career 1.06).

    I don’t care if he is a midget. If he becomes a useful MR, the Royals would get something for nothing, essentially. Of course, if Dayton Moore thinks Blanco is a legit prospect, any possible upside would be offset by Blanco stealing AB’s from more worthy youngsters.

    Comment by 3rd Period Points — July 31, 2010 @ 8:21 pm

  12. Nick–I disagree with moving Heyward to center in this situation. I would agree with it if we had gotten someone like Willingham and no other way would work. However, since we have a center fielder (not a good one, but passable one) in each line-up, I would not want to move Heyward. You don’t play your 20 yr. old rookie future of the franchise out of position unless you get a better benefit than slight improvement in outfield defense.

    Comment by cavebird — July 31, 2010 @ 11:58 pm

  13. I think it worked for both teams. The Braves get marginally better this year and the Royals get a guy who could be a good lefty reliever who was fourth on the Braves depth chart behind guys who were all young and cheap (Venters, O’Flareghty, Dunn). Chavez and Blanco were relatively meaningless in the deal.

    Comment by cavebird — August 1, 2010 @ 12:00 am

  14. The Braves probably just needed to free up some money and Chavez and Blanco were the most expendable players.

    Comment by Tim — August 1, 2010 @ 12:09 am

  15. I’m not saying Chavez is great, but he’ll be cheap for at least another 3 years, and he is basically a carbon copy of Farnsworth. It’s true that Farnsworth is overpaid, but he’s pitched well for them for two years. McClure got the big arm guy to start throwing the 2 seamer and that made all the difference. Guaranteed he does the same thing with Chavez, which will give him a good chance to be a decent value in the 6-7 innings for a few years. They actually have not had that kind of depth in the bullpen in quite a while, although this year for the most part was not too bad. This is exactly the type of deal they need to be making. For GMDM to turn two guys who nobody thought would fetch any interest for two useful parts (for them) and a legit late inning lefty relief prospect is a very good move. It continues a nice trade deadline week for Dayton. However, if he fails to move Guillen and bring in Kila within the week it’s a failure. They must get that done at any cost.

    Comment by Paul — August 1, 2010 @ 12:40 am

  16. The Braves are the only first place team in MLB that failed to fill their needs at the trade deadline. This trade, in a vacuum, is fair and ostensibly helps both teams. However, when looked at alongside the Escobar deal and in the context of the Braves’ current status in the pennant race, Frank Wren’s moves have been somewhere between inadequate and abysmal this July. In an extreme buyer’s market, he acquired zero wins worth of help over what he already had. Pathetic.

    Comment by Beer me! — August 1, 2010 @ 9:50 pm

  17. It was a buyer’s market if you were looking to acquire overpaid, veterans. Unless you think the Braves should have gone after Vernon Wells, I don’t really see the answer to their CF issues. The only guys that were going for pennies on the dollar seemed to be the big time pitchers, the one thing Atlanta does not need more of. The hitters like Dunn, Hart, Dejesus (before he got hurt), etc were not being offered up for cheap

    Comment by nick — August 2, 2010 @ 2:51 pm

  18. I think the common idea is te Braves could have offered similar, it not better packages, than what acquired Ludwick or Berkman. Whether or not Berkman could still move well enough for LF is suspect, but then this is the team that played Garrett Anderson over 100 games there last year and in the event Glaus can’t bounce back to form from his current leg injuries, he can be better than Hinske there. Ludwick is almost ideal to the need, a solid OF who can slug from the right side. Be it in LF, or even RF wth Heyward sliding to CF, he is the most obvious answer to “Who Wren shoul have gotten”.

    Just playing devil’s advocate, that is the easy way to slight Wren, saying he should have been the one to add Ludwick. This aside from giving a general, without any support, argument of he should have moved some of the young, potential front line pitching within the system for a bigger bat that may or may not have even been available (popular sentiment focused on guys like Kemp, Braun and Gutierrez, among others).

    Comment by Mr. Sanchez — August 2, 2010 @ 4:00 pm

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