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  1. I am amazed by pitchers that make it back in any form from serious injury. I thought for sure Freddy Garcia was done. I know most pitchers make it back from TJ surgery if given enough time-and that’s a grueling rehab as well-but Freddy had shoulder surgery and missed over two seasons.

    He’s in the right organization with their highly regarded medical team, and with Don Cooper, who mostly under the radar has had a good track record with getting quite a lot from formerly broken/failed pitchers.

    Comment by jirish — August 12, 2010 @ 9:24 pm

  2. Well, you say nice things about how he’s learned to be a crafty junkballer which is an admirable way for him to extend his career when he used to be a strikeout pitcher with good stuff.

    But wouldn’t it be more fair to compare him to 5th starters around the leagues? That’s a collection of guys like Sweaty Freddy, kids, fill-ins and hanger-ons. I think he probably compares very favorably to that group. He may deliver 30 starts and 160 innings of below league average ERA. That’s much better than most teams 5th starters.

    Comment by MikeS — August 12, 2010 @ 9:45 pm

  3. Not really. He’s a 5th starter for the Sox, when he’d be a #2 for the Royals, but “5th starter” and “2nd starter” are not really positions and, as such, don’t have different replacement levels. A #5 will make (almost) as many starts as a #2.

    Comment by Carligula — August 12, 2010 @ 10:55 pm

  4. Point taken, but that’s alos kind of the point I was trying to make. If you get that kind of production from the fifth best guy on your staff, you have a pretty darn good pitching staff. If those numbers are second or third best, you’ve got big problems.

    Same thing with hitting. If the 8th or 9th best hitter in your lineup (wherever the manager places him) is league average or just a little worse you are a great offensive club. If that guy is the fifth best hitter in the lineup, you’re going to struggle to score runs.

    Comment by MikeS — August 13, 2010 @ 7:29 am

  5. [1] Freddy has provided value in the 5th starter’s role.

    [2] Everyone in Chicagoland is talking about Daniel Hudson’s last 3 starts.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — August 13, 2010 @ 11:19 am

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