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  1. I believe Romero is a Super-Two player, so he would have 4 arbitration years. Not sure how that changes things.

    Comment by Bret — August 14, 2010 @ 6:00 pm

  2. Yeah, he’s a Super Two. Which makes this an even better deal for the Jays. With the extra bump he would make even more. Even if he didn’t improve or regresses. Obviously the issue is that you can’t just non-tender him if his arm falls off or whatever.

    Comment by Matt — August 14, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

  3. Another solid deal for Alex Anthopoulos. I like the cut of his jib.

    Comment by Alex Remington — August 14, 2010 @ 7:25 pm

  4. “I believe that if Romero can stay healthy, this contract is likely to end up being slightly favorable to Toronto.”

    Shouldn’t these deals be extremely favorable to the team if the player stays healthy? They’re taking a risk by guaranteeing so many years to a pitcher. If they only come out slightly ahead in the event that the pitcher stays healthy, then is it worth it?

    Comment by vivalapiazza — August 14, 2010 @ 7:27 pm

  5. How can he be a Super Two with just 2 years (exactly) of service time?

    Comment by Nick0rz — August 14, 2010 @ 7:27 pm

  6. I hope this doesn’t affect him the way it seemed to affect Rios, Lind & Hill.

    Comment by DR — August 14, 2010 @ 7:58 pm

  7. Rios had a 5 WAR season when he was extended.

    Comment by Mark — August 14, 2010 @ 10:24 pm

  8. Not to forget The Contract.

    Comment by N00bious — August 14, 2010 @ 11:03 pm

  9. No, he is not a super 2. he has exacttly 1 year before this season and will have exactly 2 years after this one.

    Comment by Flipsy — August 15, 2010 @ 12:05 am

  10. This seems premature. RR didn’t have a particularly impressive season in the minors in 2008. He was a hair better than average in 178 innings last year, but only that. The Jays are effectively committing a nice chunk of change based largely on Romero’s performance this year. I see what Romero is getting out of this, but I don’t quite see how the Jays benefit by acting now as opposed to waiting until next season. If Romero continues to pitch like this is his price really going to go up if you consider how far from free agency he’ll still be as of July 2011?

    Comment by Jack Str — August 15, 2010 @ 3:41 am

  11. Hill’s best year was after his extension.

    Comment by jw — August 15, 2010 @ 11:14 am

  12. Cost certainty. The Jays will know exactly how much he costs over his time with the club. In addition it means keeping the player happy, avoids the arbitration process (which can get hairy), and signals the rest of the pitchers that the Jays are willing to do what it takes to keep them in town and reward them for their performance.

    Comment by jw — August 15, 2010 @ 11:17 am

  13. Too much money for romero.

    Gallardo got the same deal, but he is a MUCH better pitcher.

    Comment by jmag043 — August 15, 2010 @ 2:05 pm

  14. Gallardo is much better?…..
    Do you even watch baseball?
    Romero has not even reached his ceiling yet
    IS the better pitcher right now with not even 2 full seasons under his belt
    not to mention he is doing this in the AL East
    last ten games…. @NYY (2), BOS (2), DET, STL, @SD,

    Comment by kablammo — August 15, 2010 @ 2:22 pm

  15. is he really? Gallardo had a better rookie year FIP wise but Ricky did throw 176 innings so they ended up with the same WAR. Gallardo barely pitched at all his second year and if you compare his third year to Romero this year, Ricky comes out on top quite easily(3.97 FIP vs 3.39 FIP(romero))

    Comment by TJ — August 15, 2010 @ 2:27 pm

  16. Exactly… the guarantee of long term money should generate some value for the club.

    If this is only slightly favorable, why bother locking him up? Why not go year to year and look at buying out a FA year when he starts getting into his arbitration years? Unless the Jays think Romero will break out next year this seems like minimal gain and upside.

    Though as the author mentions, the club option details could change the equation a bit – if the Jays have a real favorable club option it makes the deal a bit better for the Jays.

    Comment by hank — August 15, 2010 @ 4:50 pm

  17. Why? Because you’re a Brewers fan? Fail post.

    Comment by Renegade — August 15, 2010 @ 6:19 pm

  18. That was the year he had a really high UZR, right?

    Wasn’t it more than double his career average? Love it when people quote the WAR…. Fangraphs has him at 5.4WAR in 08, Baseball has him at 2.2WAR.

    Which # is correct? How much variabilty are in these WAR #’s that people are unaware of (especially if UZR is used and defense is a significant chunk of it for a specific player)

    At some point people are going to start putting some error bars on these #’s… instead of quoting them as a specific # as if it is an accurate measurement.

    Comment by hank — August 15, 2010 @ 6:58 pm

  19. I am constrained to point out that the Giants also got cost certainty with, ahem, Barry Zito. I agree that cc is worth a few dollars, but I stand by my thinking it’s not worth the premium RR will be getting.

    Comment by Jack Str — August 15, 2010 @ 8:23 pm

  20. Romero is almost a year and half older…

    Gallardo missed out on his first full season due to a freak injury, im not going to hold that against him.

    Gallardo strikes out more than 2 more per 9.

    Im not going to compare gallardo’s 2nd year with Romeros 2nd full year, im comparing each pitcher as they are NOW.

    Its not like im a gallardo fanboy either. I think Lester is also a much better pitcher than romero.

    Comment by jmag043 — August 15, 2010 @ 8:39 pm

  21. It wasn’t the best deal ever for the Jays… but they lock up one of the better pitchers in the AL East through his prime years. You can’t really complain.

    Comment by fjkagreklg — August 15, 2010 @ 10:45 pm

  22. Plus Gallardo pitches in the juggernaut which is the NL Central.

    Comment by ngrimson — August 16, 2010 @ 3:14 am

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