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  1. There has to be something happening soon regarding this shituation. I say there are really only 2 options for Sabean: 1) Just cut Guillen now cuz you’ve just upgraded his spot on the roster w/ Ross or 2) Find a reason………. uh, oops, i mean place Rowand on the DL with that “undisclosed injury” he’s been dealing with all season (wink – wink)…

    Comment by DonCoburleone — August 23, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

  2. Guillen’s been good with the bat thus far, but when he inevitably cools off, cut him, stick Ross in RF and now you have good defense in 2/3 of the outfield.

    This move wouldn’t be criticized at all if Guillen wasn’t already on this team.

    Comment by Joltin' Joe — August 23, 2010 @ 4:27 pm

  3. I’ll admit, I only read this because you used the word “nihilism” in the title.

    Comment by Bronnt — August 23, 2010 @ 4:35 pm

  4. Another right-handed hitting outfielder does not kill the Giants playoff chances; it only makes them stronger.

    Comment by Jamie — August 23, 2010 @ 4:38 pm

  5. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of Brian Sabeanism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

    Comment by monkeyball — August 23, 2010 @ 6:26 pm

  6. You want a right-handed hitting outfielder? I can get you a right-handed hitting outfielder, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don’t wanna know about it, believe me.

    Comment by monkeyball — August 23, 2010 @ 6:29 pm

  7. I can guarantee they will use Ross in the least ideal way possible. It would make sense to platoon Ross with Guillen/Burrell, but I guarantee he will somehow take playing time away from Torres. Giants are fully enamored with Guillen (more dingerz than Torres), to the point of apologizing for him whenever his lack of speed is apparent and hurts us. “Well you gotta understand he’s dealing with a bum set of wheels right now, but if he was healthy, watch out!” Kruk says this at least 3 times per Giants broadcast now.

    Bruce Bochy is a man who still plays Rowand in center when he and Torres are both in the lineup, and when Rowand plays but Torres doesn’t, Bochy also bats Rowand leadoff!! Yes, not only does Rowand occasionally replace Torres in CF, but also takes his spot in the batting order. The man who is batting .239/.291/.386. That guy. Lead off. He bat Rowand/Freddy Sanchez 1-2 yesterday. The two worst hitters on the team were in position to get the most at bats of any player.

    So you heard it here, they will choose the worst possible platoon split. Torres will get more “rest”, and Guillen will be given every chance possible to fail. The Giants organization does not begin to comprehend having a batting order of max efficiency, let alone platooning guys.

    Comment by EricR — August 23, 2010 @ 6:42 pm

  8. Can we put a hit on Rowand??? someone go Nancy Kerrigan on his ass please so we can save Boch from resting Torres and giving us a better chance to win… i mean i Love Rowand the guy, hate the production

    Comment by Giants 162-0 — August 23, 2010 @ 6:52 pm

  9. I have to agree that the Giants will almost certainly use Ross in a way that doesn’t help the team in any way, period. I think DFA’ing Guillen would be a wonderful solution. But giving away RBI’s – as valuable as we’ve established they are – would make Sabean cringe. Having Torres try and cover left, center and right with Burrell and Guillen out there is downright criminal.

    Comment by Paapfly.com — August 23, 2010 @ 11:06 pm

  10. Same here.

    Comment by Ogre39666 — August 24, 2010 @ 12:23 am

  11. I agree, just cut Guillen now and play Ross.

    Comment by Brian Cartwright — August 24, 2010 @ 12:40 am

  12. Obviously, you’re not an outfielder.

    Comment by 3rd Period Points — August 24, 2010 @ 4:10 am

  13. it’s hard to imagine a more peculiar nietzsche reference.

    hitler was also inspired by nietzsche quotes. but the murderous and maleveolent nazi was highly meticulous, and most likely would have spelled his name correctly.

    meanwhile, the giants continue to plant popsicle sticks in the ground and hope they grow to be trees…

    Comment by cookie rojas — August 24, 2010 @ 8:31 am

  14. I agree. It’s an embarrassment of riches but none of the Giant’s OF’s demand to be played everyday. Ross is good insurance. If they make the World Series, Burrell can be the DH.

    I wonder why the Dodgers didn’t claim him if they still believe they are in it. Maybe it’s because GM Ned Colletti is so dumb that he believes his team has a chance and he doesn’t know which players will help his team come back

    Comment by Squirrelmetrix — August 24, 2010 @ 10:28 am

  15. “I’ll play RF for your team for a thousand dollars. Guillen can’t watch though, or he has to pay $100.”

    “Uh, I’m just gonna go find a cash machine.”

    Comment by The_Beard — August 24, 2010 @ 10:41 am

  16. I’m not sure if I”m reading this article incorrectly, but are you saying they shouldn’t have signed Ross?

    Comment by Falco — August 24, 2010 @ 10:41 am

  17. with nail polish

    Comment by wily mo — August 24, 2010 @ 2:01 pm

  18. It’s pretty simple when you look at some numbers. That’s what this site is about, right?

    Player A: .267/.318/.406 wOBA .320 UZR/150 13.7
    Player B: .239/.291/.386 wOBA .295 UZR/150 6.6

    They both hit right handed. They can both play CF.

    And Player A is 3 years younger than Player B. What would you do?

    Well, I’d keep the former (who is more than a win better than the latter over a full season) as a reserve outfielder and DFA the latter.

    Unfortunately, the Giants organization won’t recognize a sunk cost when they see it. DFA Rowand and keep Ross for 2 years as insurance against performance regression from Andres Torres and an extra player until the big outfield bats the G’s have coming through the system are ready to play on the big team.

    Comment by Fergie348 — August 24, 2010 @ 3:46 pm

  19. I got one – Rowand has had an almost crippling case of Nocanthititis this year. We need to put him in traction, burn his bats and perform some sort of Voodoo ritual over his cleats to try to rid him of this dread disease. And of course he’ll have to go on the DL for at least 30 days..

    Comment by Fergie348 — August 24, 2010 @ 4:05 pm

  20. I had this concern also, but it’s worth noting that vs. the Reds’ lefty Wood, Ross will get his first start tonight… in RF, replacing Guillen. Which is exactly where he should be.

    Comment by ElJimador — August 24, 2010 @ 9:31 pm

  21. I’m saying it’s not that bad of a move — although the marginal benefit is relatively small given how many games are left in the season, Ross is probably a better player than Burrell and even more probably Guillen.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — August 24, 2010 @ 11:41 pm

  22. I see what you did there.

    Comment by BillWallace — August 25, 2010 @ 3:03 am

  23. Klaassen,

    Markham Mennos … Let’s make a deal.

    I know Billy Butler will look nice next to all your other Royals in 2011. Talk to me.

    Sof

    Comment by Sophomore Sleeper — August 25, 2010 @ 9:54 am

  24. For all the speculation, we can take away from this that somebody upstairs knew something we didn’t.

    Comment by Rbone — October 17, 2010 @ 2:58 pm

  25. I guess this one worked out alright, after all!

    Comment by www.PaapFly.com — October 21, 2010 @ 1:23 am

  26. Too much WIN in this comment to handle.

    Comment by gnomez — May 9, 2011 @ 6:56 pm

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