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  1. That’s a damn good pitcher the Blue Jays gave up. Could this mean they shop Bautista? Or flip Lawrie for a Greinke trade?

    Comment by harry — December 6, 2010 @ 9:07 am

  2. Do the jays get another piece after the Rule 5 draft?

    Comment by hgjghgjjh — December 6, 2010 @ 9:21 am

  3. Marcum is one of the most under rated pitchers out there… He has been a favorite Jay of mine. The Brewers are getting at top notch pitcher who will make an instant impact and he wont cost that much.

    When Marcum broke out around the same time as McGowan he has always been undervalued and thought of as a good pitcher but doesnt have that pure stuff.

    Thing I love about him is… well look at his career, he doesnt dominate but he uses his tools and puts up fantastic results. Sad to see this guy go!

    Comment by MeloJ — December 6, 2010 @ 9:33 am

  4. Losing Marcum and gaining a prospect will not improve their playoff chances in the AL East, even if they were to flip him for Greinke.

    Comment by Joshua Maciel — December 6, 2010 @ 9:57 am

  5. You say he’s blocked at 2b, but Weeks is a FA this time next year and if he has another year even close to what he did this year he won’t stay in Milwaukee.

    Comment by Jilly — December 6, 2010 @ 10:44 am

  6. Get ready to see that nasty changeup Brewer fans

    Comment by Marcus — December 6, 2010 @ 10:48 am

  7. The Jays clearly don’t think they can make the playoffs out of the AL East in 2011-12; they’re pursuing the TB route to competitiveness (without actually losing 100 games for years). Makes sense to me.

    Comment by Mr Punch — December 6, 2010 @ 10:51 am

  8. Theoretically they’re trying to extend Weeks, which would make this trade a big win if it gets done. Otherwise…big trouble. Maybe Counsell will have a job until he’s 45.

    Comment by skipperxc — December 6, 2010 @ 10:53 am

  9. Loving this trade for the Brewers. It’s not just Gallardo, old vet and scrubs. Gallardo, Marcum and Wolf can work well in NL Central.

    Comment by Dick Whitman — December 6, 2010 @ 10:59 am

  10. I’m getting a kick out of how Jays fans think that this is a pathway to Greinke. If the Royals were that interested in Lawrie, don’t you think that the Brewers would have already sent him to KC for Greinke?

    Comment by tbr — December 6, 2010 @ 11:01 am

  11. The Jays have other really good prospects they can package with Lawrie while the Brewers don’t (at least not guys who are close). Package Lawrie, Drabek, and Arencibia together and I think the Royals would be thinking long and hard about pulling the trigger.

    Comment by Nitram Odarp — December 6, 2010 @ 11:14 am

  12. Gallardo is the much sexier pitcher (strikeouts! hits homeruns! throws 95 mph!), but Marcum is better statistically in every other category.

    I’m trying not to be a Brewers homer here, but this looks like an unqualified win for the Brewers, especially if they can extend Marcum and Weeks.

    Comment by Dave — December 6, 2010 @ 11:32 am

  13. I like this trade for the Jays, even if doesn’t lead to Greinke. Marcum’s a good pitcher and he should do well for the Brewers. But I see Lawrie as elite prospect who could play in many All-Star games. I know there are some questions about his attitude, but I think Lawrie’s power makes this a deal the Brewers might regret for many years to come.

    Comment by Bolton — December 6, 2010 @ 11:58 am

  14. Lawrie should be happy to get back to Canadian-rules baseball. Canucks often have trouble adjusting to the third out and lack of a roving outfielder.

    Comment by Xave — December 6, 2010 @ 12:42 pm

  15. No shot at Lawrie ending up on third?

    Comment by Brandon Heikoop — December 6, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

  16. Marcum had a better BB9 and threw 10 more IP than Gallardo.
    Gallardo had a better HR9, FIP, xFIP, WAR.

    So no he wasn’t better in every other category. Gallardo is the better pitcher.

    Comment by Z2 — December 6, 2010 @ 1:17 pm

  17. This trade is puzzling to me…

    It’s a move that makes me believe that the Brewers see themselves as World Series competitors, and they aren’t. Unless the Brewers make another big time move or two to put themselves in position to compete for a ring, letting Lawrie go for 2 years of Marcum’s service, will seem like a total waste.

    Comment by baty — December 6, 2010 @ 6:59 pm

  18. it’s a moot point if they can sign Weeks to an extension, or even if they don’t. Lawrie *might* be as good as Weeks in 5 years, but he could also flame out, or become just a solid everyday player. and obviously, Marcum could sign an extension too.

    Comment by David — December 6, 2010 @ 7:42 pm

  19. The Brewers had the second best offense in the NL last season (OPS+) even with down years from Fielder and Braun, and that is still intact.

    If they can add another above-average starter to go along with Gallardo/Marcum/Wolf, how are they not play-off contenders in the weak NL Central…?

    Comment by Bert — December 6, 2010 @ 8:09 pm

  20. I agree. I dont think they have a real shot. But there has been documented serious interest in Greinke by the Blue Jays.

    Comment by harry — December 6, 2010 @ 9:27 pm

  21. Im not a Jays fan, fyi.
    And its not about interest in a prospect.. The Royals arent shopping Greinke, they’re fielding offers. Blue Jays have a good system and could make something happen. Plus the Brewers are strapped for cash, Greinke’s contract, I imagine, would prolly still be too much for them to take on, even if it is a great salary relative to Greinke’s skill.

    Comment by harry — December 6, 2010 @ 9:29 pm

  22. Marcum could easily put up a sub 3 ERA in the NL Central. Great trade. Ugly to see the Jays basically giving up on next year, but it looks like the realistic move.

    Comment by Ed Nelson — December 6, 2010 @ 10:22 pm

  23. I wonder if the Brewers are making themselves better for the short-term, but not legitimate, and even less prepared for the “post-Fielder” era.

    Wolf is just a guy. Rogers will be the big time rotation sleeper.

    Comment by baty — December 7, 2010 @ 1:31 am

  24. If anything, this deal is a great sell for the fans in 2011. If Melvin trotted out a pitching staff like last year’s again, his job security (which has been whispered about last year) would begin to openly be questioned, I think. They may be hoping for huge years by the starters, and hope that Braun and Fielder give the Central hell for their last year together.

    Comment by Jacks-Off — December 7, 2010 @ 4:38 pm

  25. No question about it. Marcum’s fantasy value just got a huge boost.

    Comment by Josh — December 7, 2010 @ 5:52 pm

  26. Bit excessive no? Marcum is good, not elite. Elite guys have trouble having a sub 3 ERA over 200 IP in any division

    Comment by Z2 — December 8, 2010 @ 8:57 pm

  27. Thank you Brew Crew! The pitching staff won’t be comprised of Yovani and 4 terrible pitchers this season…

    Comment by SleepNowInTheFire — December 15, 2010 @ 8:03 pm

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