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  1. If I recall correctly, Edmonds suffered a relatively serious injury close to the end of the year that put the rest of his career in doubt. Maybe the Brewers assumed he was done for and didn’t even inquire as to whether Edmonds wanted to play another season.

    Comment by John — February 7, 2011 @ 9:17 am

  2. The whole Kotsay thing is just strange. He’s being brought in mainly to back up 1B, which of course features LHer Fielder. He may play RF on occasion, but his defense is so bad that it is unlikely worth it. He’s going to hit off the bench but he really doesn’t improve upon Counsell offensively for pinch hitting duty.

    Kotsay has neither offensive or defensive value.

    Comment by Rob — February 7, 2011 @ 9:22 am

  3. My eyes are telling me that recently it seems like more and more teams would rather sign the significantly younger, albeit worse guy, than the significantly older, better guy.

    Comment by hunterfan — February 7, 2011 @ 9:42 am

  4. But…. Mark Kotsay is old too!

    Comment by Vegemitch — February 7, 2011 @ 10:05 am

  5. He said “younger” not young.

    Comment by Marcus — February 7, 2011 @ 10:20 am

  6. Welcome to FanGraphs Tommy.

    The Kotsay signing is a terrible one for the Brewers. It makes absolutely no sense on so many different levels. The best theory I’ve heard for the signing is that the Brewers are doing this as a step to resign Rickie Weeks to a long term contract. Weeks and Kotsay have the same agent (Greg Genske). Maybe the Brewers are doing this as favor to Genske in order to soften the Weeks negotiations.

    Comment by Spottedcow — February 7, 2011 @ 11:25 am

  7. Hopefully Edmonds will hit seven home runs to get to 400 for his career, that way the baseball writers have something to rally around come Hall of Fame voting time.

    Comment by piper108 — February 7, 2011 @ 11:49 am

  8. Mark Kotsay must be the most likable dude in baseball to keep getting deals and shots like these.

    Comment by sourbob — February 7, 2011 @ 11:59 am

  9. There is absolutely no reason to give Mark Kotsay a major league contract in 2011. This is the worst thing the Brewers did all offseason.

    Comment by PL — February 7, 2011 @ 12:40 pm

  10. Thanks for the welcome.

    Re: the injury issue, Edmonds suffered an oblique injury at the end of the year. At his age almost any injury could be career-ending because he has the option of just giving up.

    Health and age are definitely factors, but the role shouldn’t be that demanding. I just don’t see why anyone would guarantee Kotsay anything with other (likely better) options available.

    Thanks again.

    Comment by Tommy Rancel — February 7, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

  11. Has anyone else noticed the Cardinals seem to be developing a tradition of bring back their iconic center fielders? McGee was traded by the Cardinals in 1990, then came back in 96 to finish his career with them. Lankford was traded in 2001, then came back in 2004. Now Edmonds!

    Comment by Adam — February 7, 2011 @ 12:45 pm

  12. Eh, if you think someone is trying to get the band back for one final tour, Jocketty in Cincy gets my vote. He’s had just about every ex-Cardinal come play for him the last couple years.

    Comment by Jason — February 7, 2011 @ 12:50 pm

  13. He had injuries to both achilles tendons. I thought he had said he was going to retire. Maybe the Brewers didn’t even know he was available.

    Comment by Hal — February 7, 2011 @ 1:03 pm

  14. Edmonds was practically immobile by the end of last season, I don’t think you can really count on him being above-average at anything anymore.

    Kotsay is bad, but people are being way too harsh on the Brewers. They aren’t using him as their regular DH like the White Sox did, he’s the fifth outfielder (who probably won’t play in the field) and LHB with pop off the bench and is being paid less than $1 million guaranteed.

    Some of you people have unrealistic expectations of what the fifth outfielder/PH brings to the table in terms of offensive ability…

    Comment by Tomas — February 7, 2011 @ 2:29 pm

  15. Skip Schumaker is sort of iconic, but as the undisputed Tony Gwynn/George Brett/Cal Ripken Jr./Edgar Martinez of the Cardinals, there is zero chance for a reunion.

    Comment by Choo — February 7, 2011 @ 2:54 pm

  16. Offensive expectations for a 5th OF, PH and emergency 1B don’t have to be high or even medium provided the guy can run a bit, flash the leather, tell jokes, whatever . . . and that’s half of the problem. Kotsay played with a fork sticking out of his back last season. Unless he was hiding a wrist injury or something, expect more of the same.

    The other half of the problem is money. For the league minimum, you can find in a guy who can do one or more of hit/field/run/jest provided you don’t already have one rotting in your system. Contact a team that has a few of those guys (most teams have accumulated a few of those guys by now), and you can probably pick your favorite in exchange for a scrap arm and one of Bob Uecker’s blazers from the 80’s.

    Comment by Choo — February 7, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

  17. maybe these GMs can’t forget when he was a plus defender in CF *10 years ago*

    Comment by brendan — February 7, 2011 @ 5:11 pm

  18. When all you do is crunch numbers you loose sight of the fact that these are people.

    People have to get along with people, and people rub other people the wrong way sometimes.

    I don’t know which way the cookie crumbles in this example, but I’ll bet the people involved wern’t thinking about numbers at all.

    Comment by shthar — February 7, 2011 @ 10:29 pm

  19. Kotsay is the worst signing in the majors this offseason. He hasn’t been worth a spot on a major league roster for 6 years now and somehow got a major league deal.

    Comment by Ender — March 3, 2011 @ 9:03 am

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