Yeah, it’s pretty clear that he’s the best option, but I’m just not sure why they’d opt for him this year. I have a hard time seeing the Marlins seriously competing for the division, and it would improve their chances in the future to give Dominguez’s bat more development time in AAA.
I do think, between his solid power / plate discipline and excellent defense, he can post a 2 win season, but it shouldn’t have been too difficult to find that type of production via free agency to hold them over for a season.
You know what he was saying. Don’t pretend like intangibles don’t exist just because you can’t measure them. Ask anyone in the game and they take things like work ethic, leadership, and effort into consideration. As they should.
Comment by Jimmy the Greek — March 18, 2011 @ 11:04 am
I don’t think he is the best option. If he really is. then the front office hasn’t done their job (as you partially allude to).
I’m not a big believer in Matt Dominguez’s ceiling but I think that the risk of rushing him still outweighs any short term gains a (something of an unexpected productive 2011 would yield.
Comment by S.M. Jenkins — March 18, 2011 @ 11:20 am
Typo: “matching defensive* value”
I don’t know why the Marlins would care if they put a marginally worse player like Wes Helms at third base for awhile. Nobody wants to see this kid go out there and hit .200. Put him in AAA, let him learn to hit.
So he’s lazy on defense but not offense? That makes no sense. The more realistic answer is that he’s just not a good defender at short. I mean Jeter’s not a good defender, but we don’t see people calling him lazy.
It’s really easy to just call a player lazy, but the fact of the matter is Hanley is one of the 4-5 best players in the game since 2006 (ie when he started fulltime). It bothers me a lot when people call him lazy or that he hasn’t reached his potential, when he’s hits like one of the best SS’s of all time.
Don’t understand why EVERYBODY always talks of Wes Helms and Bonifacio as the 3rd base options.
Donnie Murphy: A slg-filled mid-700 OPS is far from a reach and probably more of what to expect.
Osvaldo Martinez: Upper-600 OPS/low 700 OPS is what’s expected, just like Bonifacio/Helms/Dominguez. Difference is, he’s a good defensive SS, meaning he’s more than likely a VERY good defensive 2b or 3b.
Also, something you’re ignoring with Bonifacio is the fact he’s one of the best base runners in baseball. That’s 5-10 runs being ignored.
Comment by Powder Blues — March 18, 2011 @ 3:00 pm
Apparently Loria is PISSED about the Marlins defense this spring, and since Dominguez has the fewest errors in the infield, we’ probably have our answer.
Oh, and Stanton is a beast, Hanley’s lazy, and Vazquez is on PED’s and such.
Comment by Undocorkscrew — March 18, 2011 @ 5:27 pm
The Ancient Mariner, I actually love Hanley as a baseball player. However, he’s quite obviously been lazy in the field before, and his leadership intangibles have been questioned multiple places (for whatever that’s worth).
Those things actually do exist, despite what your amateur reading of Moneyball led you to believe. Ask the most stat-savvy front office in the world, and they’d tell you they still care quite a lot about makeup, work ethic, leadership, etc.
Comment by Jimmy the Greek — March 18, 2011 @ 6:30 pm
“amature reading,” what compared to your professional reading level? Ask even the most traditional front office in the league if they would trade their starting short stop for Hanley and with the exception of Colorado I think you’ll hear a lot of yea pleases.
For what it’s worth I’ve never heard of any player saying that they didn’t like playing with Hanley.
Serious questions about his bat are fair, but if you’ve watched this kid, you know his defense is special. I’m talking Ryan Zimmerman-special. Dominguez may not hit enough to stay with the big club, but you really can’t do better defensively.