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  1. What about Andy Hawkins? Pitched a no-hitter and lost.

    Comment by Jim — April 25, 2011 @ 9:07 am

  2. Andy Hawkins had one for the Yankees against the White Sox in which he lost 4-0 with an eighth inning that went:

    Out
    Out
    Error
    Walk
    Walk
    Error
    Error

    All four runs scored in that sequence. He later lost official credit for the no-hitter because the definition of a no-hitter was changed requiring nine innings pitched (the Yanks were on the road and the bottom of the ninth was not played).

    Comment by Rick — April 25, 2011 @ 9:11 am

  3. This list doesn’t include those no-hitters, no longer recognized as such by MLB but still real in many of our minds, in which the no-hit pitcher not only allowed a run but also LOST the game. The one I have in mind was Andy Hawkins of the Yankees, when on July 1, 1990 he threw a no-hitter in Chicago, but his defense knifed him (the walks didn’t help) and he allowed FOUR runs in the eighth inning to lose 4-0. I think it was this game that caused MLB to redefine a no-hitter to say that it must be a 9-inning complete game, eliminating losing no-hitters on the road (but not at home??) and wiping out Hawkins’ feat.

    I actually listened to this game on the radio, driving from New York to my home in Maine, and my recollection is that the 8th inning featured THREE errors and a couple of walks, and that there were two outs with no one on when the carnage started.

    Anyway, if we are talking about no-hit efforts with runs allowed, it would be interesting to list the games wiped off the list by the decision of MLB, and include them in your article.

    Comment by Baseball Bob — April 25, 2011 @ 9:13 am

  4. Thanks Rick… I actually have a baseball card commemorating the game, and was wondering why that didn’t make the list.

    Comment by Deacon Drake — April 25, 2011 @ 9:14 am

  5. It doesn’t quite fit into this list, since he still won and it was still a shutout, but AJ Burnett’s 2001 no-hitter is worth a mention. 0 hits, 7 K, 9 BB. Nine walks!

    In that game, Burnett threw 129 pitches. Only 65 of them were strikes.

    If you could boil Burnett’s entire career down into just one game, it would probably (on his better days) look a lot like that one.

    Comment by Rex Manning Day — April 25, 2011 @ 9:30 am

  6. That seems like a pretty inane rule. We agree that if a pitcher pitches all 8 innings for his team in a loss on the road, that’s a complete game?

    Comment by hal p — April 25, 2011 @ 9:33 am

  7. I’d rather have the no-hitter – they’re rarer than shutouts.

    Comment by LondonStatto — April 25, 2011 @ 9:33 am

  8. I remember the post game press conference from Hawkins. He looked shell-shocked, saying “this isn’t what I expected a no-hitter to feel like.”

    Comment by phatti — April 25, 2011 @ 9:33 am

  9. Doesn’t that Dodgers-Angels game from a couple years ago count? The final was 1-0 Dodgers but they were no-hit. Or is that another example of a game like the Hawkins no-hitter?

    Comment by RCG — April 25, 2011 @ 9:37 am

  10. “Or how about a one-hit shutout with no walks issued or a no-hitter with seven walks?”

    So… basically, would you rather be Walter Johnson or Nolan Ryan?

    I’ll take “Nolan Ryan for a day, Walter Johnson for a career”?

    Comment by B N — April 25, 2011 @ 9:58 am

  11. Is that the most BB’s in a no hitter ever? I was thinking about this all through the article.

    Comment by TheGrandslamwich — April 25, 2011 @ 10:00 am

  12. When I saw this post I immediately thought of that game and was confused not to see it here. Thanks for the summary!

    Comment by Drew — April 25, 2011 @ 10:02 am

  13. It was really windy in Chicago during the Hawkins game and I recall Leyritz and Barfield each misplaying back-to-back fly balls in the OF for errors.

    Comment by Mel Hall — April 25, 2011 @ 10:22 am

  14. They clarified the official definition of a no-hitter to require at least 9 IP.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-hitter#Definition

    Another interesting list would be where the pitcher threw 9 no-hit innings but it wasn’t a no-hitter. The only one that comes to mind is Pedro with the Expos.

    Comment by James — April 25, 2011 @ 10:28 am

  15. I’ll take either!

    Comment by Jonathan C. Mitchell — April 25, 2011 @ 10:29 am

  16. RCG,

    It doesn’t count for the same reason Hawkins’ didn’t–his team was away and lost so he didn’t pitch all nine innings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-hitter
    (search for “not credited”). Also that was a combined effort, with Jered Weaver and Jose Arredondo.

    Comment by Spunky — April 25, 2011 @ 10:33 am

  17. Something I’ve always wondered is how we are well aware of games like the one that just happened where he gave up his 1 hit in the final inning, but yet, if a pitcher throws what would be a perfect game, except for giving up say a leadoff single to the first batter of the day so we completely forget about it because it wasn’t a hit in the 9th inning as if this is somehow more special. Just bugs me.

    Comment by SC2GG — April 25, 2011 @ 10:44 am

  18. Jered Weaver’s 8 inning no hit lost to the Dodgers would have counted otherwise.

    Comment by My echo and bunnymen — April 25, 2011 @ 10:58 am

  19. yes

    Comment by fredsbank — April 25, 2011 @ 10:59 am

  20. nolan ryan fun fact: more no-hit games pitched than no-walk games

    Comment by fredsbank — April 25, 2011 @ 11:00 am

  21. Game was played at Dodger, Jered Weaver got the loss and only pitched 8 innings.

    Comment by My echo and bunnymen — April 25, 2011 @ 11:00 am

  22. That’d be too many games for me to remember. I suspect this is the same logic most people use, and though flawed is useful. Too much data is bad and not all of us is in the business of baseball stats.

    Comment by My echo and bunnymen — April 25, 2011 @ 11:03 am

  23. Probably the best-known game of this sort occurred on June 23, 1917. Babe Ruth was on the mound (remember him?) for Boston, and he walked the first batter on a 3-2 pitch that he thought was a strike. The young Ruth argued the call and was ejected. Ernie Shore came in to pitch, PICKED THE RUNNER OFF FIRST BASE, and retired the next 26 batters he faced. It is a combined no-hitter, but in fact Ernie Shore pitched as perfect a game as you possibly can (he faced 26 batters, and retired 27!) but does not get credit for a no-hitter, a perfect game, or really anything (I think it IS the longest relief outing without a baserunner, if that is something).

    Comment by Baseball Bob — April 25, 2011 @ 11:23 am

  24. That is an awesome little factoid.

    Comment by Jason B — April 25, 2011 @ 11:29 am

  25. Ernie Shore threw nine innings without allowing a hit or a walk on June 23, 1917, but it’s not a no-hitter (for him).

    Starter Babe Ruth walked the first batter, argued with the umpire, and got thrown out of the game. Shore then came in. The baserunner attempted to steal second but got thrown out. Shore got the next 26 men out.

    So he threw 9 innings, allowed no walks, no hits, and no errors, but all he gets credit for is part of a shared no-hitter with Ruth.

    Comment by Shattenjager — April 25, 2011 @ 11:37 am

  26. The most obvious reason is that the sports media will start informing you in the middle of a game that Anibal Sanchez has a no-hitter through X innings, so I find out about it even if I’m sitting at home watching White Sox @ Tigers. Then they make a point to tell you again when it’s broken up, or if you’re not still at the TV, you probably go back to see what happened.

    On the other hand, a guy who gives up a leadoff single and then retires 27 consecutive batters never had the potential for the no-hitter, so it’s unlikely to be given much special attention other than during the regular baseball coverage. I’d still find out about it reading the boxes and recaps, but will never have thought about it as a potential no-hitter even though the end result was more impressive than Sanchez’s performance.

    Comment by steex — April 25, 2011 @ 11:37 am

  27. So this ‘has to be nine innings to be a no-hitter’ rule seems a little odd. If the home-team pitcher throws a 9 inning no-hitter but loses, is it a no-hit loss? If an away pitcher pitches 8 &2/3 no-hitter but loses on a 2 out walk-off error in the 9th that isn’t a no-hit loss? What about throwing 9 innings of no-hit ball but losing on a walk-off error in the 10th? Is this the only way for an away pitcher to get a no-hit loss? Are there examples of any of these scenarios?

    As you can see I have lots of questions.

    Comment by Steven — April 25, 2011 @ 12:51 pm

  28. As long as my team won, I’d rather have the no-hitter!
    1. Team win >
    2. No-hitter >
    3. Shut-out

    Comment by Xeifrank — April 25, 2011 @ 1:06 pm

  29. But shut-out implies team wins, so isn’t your hierarchy flawed in that
    Team Wins > No-Hitter > Shut out = Team Wins, or in other words:
    Team Wins> No-Hitter > Team Wins, a contradiction.

    Comment by Steven — April 25, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

  30. The obvious response is that a shut-out is a bonus to a team win. A no-hitter is either a bonus to a team win or a consolation prize for a team loss. So, the response would be:

    1. Team Win
    2. (+No-Hitter if possible)
    3. (+Shutout if possible)
    4. (If team loss) (+No-Hitter if possible).

    Furthermore, since by my understanding a SHO is technically a CG with no runs scored, a pitcher can throw a CG-SHO and still lose…if the run scores in the 10th.

    Comment by jorgath — April 25, 2011 @ 1:29 pm

  31. “If Chance’s non-shutout no-no was rendered a bit less impressive because he walked a ton and surrendered an earned run, Culver’s isn’t too far behind since he walked more batters than he whiffed.”

    No No = no hits, no runs (hard to do that in a non shutout)
    No Hitter = no hits

    While I realize the two are used interchageably because people don’t know any better, I like the non shutout no hitters, if for no other reason to see how many people refer to it as a “no no”

    Comment by joe — April 25, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

  32. Wrong – http://sportsjudge.com/sjblog/?p=630

    Comment by chris — April 25, 2011 @ 2:33 pm

  33. You could have gone more in depth on the no-hit loss. Your story was weakly put together. I expect more from your work.

    http://sportsjudge.com/sjblog/?p=630

    Comment by chris — April 25, 2011 @ 2:35 pm

  34. Was Matt Young’s non shutout no-hitter omitted from this article because he only tossed 8 innings in his no-hitter loss?

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/boxscore/04121992.shtml

    Comment by warden226 — April 25, 2011 @ 2:59 pm

  35. I’d rather have a shutout if my offense only gave me one run to work with.

    Comment by David K — April 25, 2011 @ 3:13 pm

  36. Leyritz playing the OF — that’s playing with fire right there. Did they have Rick Rhoden DH that game too? Those were the lean years for Yankee fans.

    Comment by David K — April 25, 2011 @ 3:15 pm

  37. fine…. jerkface

    Comment by fredsbank — April 25, 2011 @ 3:32 pm

  38. Nope. A complete game is a complete game, regardless of the number of innings – it can be exactly 9, less than 9 (in the case of a road loss or a weather-shortened game) or greater than 9. Regardless, you have to pitch the WHOLE game and give up no runs in order to be credited with a shutout; therefore, a shutout must be a victory.

    Comment by Ian R. — April 25, 2011 @ 5:20 pm

  39. In Game 4 of the 2001 ALCS, Paul Abbot started for Seattle against the Yankees. He was pulled after pitching 5 innings, finishing with the following line:

    5 IP, 0 ER, 0 R, 0 H, 2 SO, 8 BB.

    I know it’s a little different, but I think it should still interest anyone who chose to read this article.

    Comment by Max — April 25, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

  40. I’m sure that’s the reason, warden. I was at that double header in April of ’92. The Indians won the 1st game despite being no-hit and then lost game 2 when Clemens tossed a 2 hitter. Not a lot of Cleveland offense that day, but they didn’t walk away empty handed.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE199204122.shtml

    It’s also mildy entertaining that your article references the “powerful Indians”. They had the personnel for their mid-90’s resurgence, but they clearly weren’t there yet in ’92, finishing 11th in the AL in runs scored. Although, for the purposes of that Matt Young game, they were 2nd in the AL in hits.

    Comment by RéRé — April 25, 2011 @ 5:28 pm

  41. My favorite of this type was Chris Bosio’s no hitter in 1993, in which he walked the first two batters, went to 3-0 on the 3rd, and then retired 27 in a row.

    Comment by marc w — April 25, 2011 @ 5:43 pm

  42. I thought part of the technical definition was that you had to win the game.

    Which I always thought was idiotic (it’s “no-hitter,” not “no-hit win”), but it’s precisely the apparent idiocy that led me to remember the rule. Maybe they’ve since changed it back.

    Comment by Paul Thomas — April 26, 2011 @ 3:49 am

  43. Jose Arredondo also pitched in that game. It is (assuming you count it as a no-hitter despite the 8-innings problem) one of two joint no-hitters in which the no-hit team won.

    The other was a (9-inning) 1967 2-1 loss by the Orioles to the Tigers pitched by Steve Barber and Stu Miller– an unusually embarrassing game inasmuch as the Orioles pitchers somehow managed to lose the game despite getting a run in support of their bid! (The only other instance in which a pitcher received a run in support of a no-hit bid, but his team lost in nine innings anyway, was the 1992 Matt Young game, alluded to below.)

    Comment by Paul Thomas — April 26, 2011 @ 4:05 am

  44. Time to add Angels pitcher Ervin Santana to this list. :)

    Comment by abatheguy — July 27, 2011 @ 4:32 pm

  45. Andy Hawkins threw a no-hitter for the Yankees while losing 4-0 to the Chicago White Sox. Since Chicago was ahead after 8 1/2 innings, the White Sox did not go to bat in the bottom of the ninth… the game officially went nine innings but MLB wants to say that just because the pitcher himself did not pitch nine innings that it does not count! Yes it does, the game went nine innings, therefore it counts! MLB needs to remove its heads from its rear ends and include an exception to that stupid rule to allow official recognition for those who pitched eight innings but did not pitch the ninth inning due to being the pitcher of the road team since the home team is not required to go bat in the ninth if it is leading the game after 8 1/2 innings!

    Comment by Dan F — July 27, 2011 @ 6:52 pm

  46. The same occurred for Matt Young and the Red Sox in 1992. This time it was early in the game. A walk and error and a walk and a fielders choice. He only had to pitch 8 innings as well. He lost, 2-1!

    Comment by Dan F — July 27, 2011 @ 7:05 pm

  47. Harvey Haddix

    Comment by J D Smith — September 17, 2015 @ 10:00 am

  48. http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/haddix-pitches-12-perfect-innings-but-loses

    For a narrative.

    Comment by J D Smith — September 17, 2015 @ 10:03 am

  49. I ran across your article while searching for any reference to which team in major league history has had the most no-hit games pitched against them. My gut feeling is the Dodgers. Anyone know?

    And I apologize for not doing all three post in a single comment.

    Comment by J D Smith — September 17, 2015 @ 10:06 am

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