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  1. They really need more GM’s like Ned Colletti willing to give up fairly high ceiling arms for over the hill relievers. Anothe J-Mac type deal would give them enough to couple with the arms close to the bigs (Lincoln, Owens, Wilson, Morris, Locke). Also, Maholm is pitching his way to being pretty marketable come July (he has an inflated option for 2012).

    Comment by PiratesHurdles — May 12, 2011 @ 2:02 pm

  2. OOOOHHH SNAP! The Pirates suck again!

    Comment by DonCoburleone — May 12, 2011 @ 2:06 pm

  3. A good rundown, but it would have been nice to see a little more discussion of the current staff. Morton has been discussed before, but what about McDonald? As a still young player under team control for four (?) more years, do you think he will be a legitimate piece in their future?

    Comment by Eric Farris — May 12, 2011 @ 2:08 pm

  4. I used to follow the Pirates because I spent one of the best years of my life as a graduate student at Pitt, living two blocks from Forbes field and enjoying many games from the $1 bleachers. I was always happy when the Pirates were winners, even if they didn’t make the playoffs.
    I stopped following them when they started trading every player who became good for the sake of the future, and therefore became consistent losers.
    If I were still a fan of theirs, I would like to see this policy ended for good and would welcome any kind of winning team.

    Comment by GiantHusker — May 12, 2011 @ 2:33 pm

  5. They need to move Maholm for sure. Open a spot up for one of Wilson, Owens, Locke, or Morris. And Jeff Karstens could go, but the other 3 have performed well. I wouldn’t wait on Correia though, trade him while the value is high if you can. The Marlins might be able to use him instead of the awful Vazquez.

    Comment by dbp john — May 12, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

  6. Oh snap, you’re not funny! The dead horse has been beaten enough, get over it.

    Comment by Pat — May 12, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

  7. I mean McDonald’s decent and all, but he’s 26 and hasn’t really proven anything in the big leagues. Walks too many batters, doesn’t consistently strike hitters out, gives up a lot of fly balls.

    Like most of those guys, they seem more of what the Pirates have had. Low upside starters who don’t really excel at anything. They’ll have some 1/2 seasons where they look great, but the vast majority of the time they’ll be sub-par.

    Comment by B — May 12, 2011 @ 4:40 pm

  8. You can’t expect Huntington to just get high upside starters back in trades for 37 year old washed up middle relievers. The fact that he got what he did for Dotel is amazing. Huntington knows you can’t get high upside starters like this either which is why he has drafted pitching so heavily the last three years. It’s going to take time.

    Comment by Charles — May 12, 2011 @ 7:14 pm

  9. funny how you referred to a dead horse in response to Don Coburleone

    Comment by GoGiants — May 12, 2011 @ 7:39 pm

  10. I like this series idea Joe. Be fun to read over the year.

    Comment by Ben Hall — May 12, 2011 @ 11:13 pm

  11. yeah, so you missed out on two things, Ross Ohlendorf and James McDonald. Both were injured early, JMac missing nearly all of his spring starts, Ross missing most of the season to date. As a result, you get JMac who was clearly the teams best pitcher in September last season, come out of the gate flat with poor command, and Jeff Karstens in your rotation.

    So I mean, you get improvement just on McDonald pitching up to his potential, and then later when you remove Karstens from the rotation you also see an increase. So nice article, but may you should look a little harder next time before you submit.

    Comment by El Duder — May 13, 2011 @ 1:52 pm

  12. My main concern is that while we do have some “potential studs” in the minors, what keeps these potential major league level studs (McCutchen, Alverez, Tabata, and Walker) happy and committed to playing…even though there is a good chance they will lose games…A LOT OF GAMES. McCutchen’s already been benched for not hustling, and Alverez has shown frustration. It’s gotta be tough to hear “we are working towards 2014” when half of these guys won’t even be here…and the other half may get cannibalized. We always have and will always need a #1. We don’t have a rotation guy that can slam the brakes on these losing streaks…once we slip…we fall all the way to the bottom of the mountain were most teams can adjust…our stats put us dead close to last, not .500 this year…so adjustments are coming…we have some decent pieces, but they’ll mean nothing without a #1.

    Comment by Ryan Waltman — May 16, 2011 @ 9:26 am

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