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  1. Colorado is the weird one. They’re a game out of last place in a bad division yet somehow sixth in FanGraph’s rankings.

    Comment by Beau — June 6, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

  2. At what point in the season will this series start weighing current performance more heavily over the exceedingly pointless “Fan%”? Weighing it evenly is making the list less useful by the day

    Comment by descender — June 6, 2011 @ 4:52 pm

  3. Go back and read the first one again. It isn’t weighted evenly.

    Comment by Adam — June 6, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

  4. 8-21 for the month of May gets you the Number Six ranking in MLB. This is now golf and the farther below average your record, the better your team is…

    Comment by Kellin — June 6, 2011 @ 5:12 pm

  5. The Mariners are proving the old saying correct. WAR, what is it good for?

    Comment by Paul — June 6, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

  6. Colorado actually came very close to slipping this week, as they dropped from .546 to .536. A similar drop next week could drop them three or more spots.

    Comment by Paul Swydan — June 6, 2011 @ 5:23 pm

  7. Fangraphs has a special spot in its heart for the number 6.

    Indians fans should take note of what has happened to Royals fans who were making a lot of noise around here a few weeks ago.

    Comment by MikeS — June 6, 2011 @ 5:29 pm

  8. Even weights or no, it does seem odd to use a static preseason fan poll to counterbalance and objective measure of performance. I mean, as pointed out by the opening piece in this series it tempers the Indians high WAR% with the tepid expectations of the fans, but that treats the FAN% as gospel rather than as an opinion that has largely been proved wrong. There has to be a better way to do this.

    Comment by Big Jgke — June 6, 2011 @ 5:44 pm

  9. The mariners pitching staff has the 4th highest WAR of any team. Yes, they’ve won a ton of 1 run games, but their rotation is legitimately fantastic. It’s not all smoke and mirrors.

    Comment by JH — June 6, 2011 @ 5:47 pm

  10. Got it, didn’t realize that WAR% and FAN% were on a sliding scale.

    Maybe using equal parts fan% and preseason projected pythag record next year is better way to temper biased expectations.

    Comment by descender — June 6, 2011 @ 5:51 pm

  11. [Obligatory comment about how crazy-low Cleveland is in these rankings.]

    Comment by Rex Manning Day — June 6, 2011 @ 6:09 pm

  12. [Obligatory follow-up about how Jose Bautista wasn’t mentioned at all in Toronto’s blurb, despite the following (or similar) Jose Bautista Fact: Jose Bautista currently has more WAR this season than Hanley Ramirez had in all of 2010.]

    Comment by Rex Manning Day — June 6, 2011 @ 6:13 pm

  13. [Obligatory statement of anger/relief that my fantasy team has X player]

    Comment by Steve Balboni — June 6, 2011 @ 6:35 pm

  14. [Obligatory carping on grammar in free post, which no one is forcing you to read]

    Comment by Steve Balboni — June 6, 2011 @ 6:35 pm

  15. [Obligatory off-topic fantasy question, e.g., “14 MLB 6X6, start Kirk McCaskill or Mark Langston this week????? Deadline in 10 minutes, HELP PLEASE”]

    Comment by Steve Balboni — June 6, 2011 @ 6:38 pm

  16. The Ms are actually only 13-11 in one run games this season. So it’s probably just the pitching keeping the team above .500. Ms are However, Seattle only has a .271 BABIP this season and even with a lineup full of weak hitters, that should regress, considering the historically anemic offense of last season posted a BABIP of .282.

    Comment by Andrew — June 6, 2011 @ 6:53 pm

  17. You spelled Smoak wrong.

    Comment by My echo and bunnymen — June 6, 2011 @ 6:58 pm

  18. this. I know it’s a formula, and not paul’s opinion or anything. I just feel they don’t have the talent to be #6. they seem much closer to the giants and braves than that.

    Comment by brendan — June 6, 2011 @ 7:42 pm

  19. @ Big Jgke – “treats the FAN% as gospel rather than as an opinion that has largely been proved wrong.” I just don’t think that’s the case, I think the latest results have proved the Fan assessment correct (or at least more correct than WAR from the first month of the season).

    Comment by Sam — June 6, 2011 @ 8:11 pm

  20. [obligatory stfu/snarky comment]

    Comment by Ton — June 6, 2011 @ 11:00 pm

  21. [Obligatory “Fangraphs used to be cool, now it’s mainstream and not (and I may or may not be a hipster like Cistulli) comment]

    Comment by TFINY — June 6, 2011 @ 11:16 pm

  22. @TFINY: true hipsters don’t hire minions to write a wikipedia entry for themselves as Cistulli has (obviously) done

    Comment by PaulScarfo — June 6, 2011 @ 11:24 pm

  23. @PaulScarfo: Well played, good sir. Well played.

    Comment by TFINY — June 6, 2011 @ 11:51 pm

  24. Thanks for being open to tweaks for next year Paul. You should put a disclaimer at the end of these saying people should read how they are created before they complain.

    The system is starting to look right about the Indians. I’m curious where the Padres would have been in these rankings last year, since no one expected anything from them. Each year’s surprise team will definitely have to sustain success to work their way up, but I think that’s a good thing.

    Comment by John — June 7, 2011 @ 12:11 am

  25. I think a decent change from using the pre-season rankings would be to use a ZiPs Updated season ending WAR as something to balance current WAR values.

    Comment by balagast — June 7, 2011 @ 9:35 am

  26. I strongly agree with Beau’s assessment, but I base it more on Colorado’s roster than their record. From before the season began thru now, I haven’t seen much talent there. Tulo, of course. Cargo, possible but still only one good season. Who after that?
    My team, the Giants, are ranked about right, but the Rockies don’t belong anywhere near this high.

    Comment by GiantHusker — June 7, 2011 @ 11:56 am

  27. I would go with Langston. I’ll be working the plate and calling EVERYTHING a strike, we gotta move this game along and save the queen.

    Comment by Enrico Palazzo — June 7, 2011 @ 1:44 pm

  28. It is difficult to reconcile the idea that Boston is “clicking on all cylinders” considering how dreadful their run prevention has been. Boston is lucky to be as close in the standings as they are to the Yankees considering the latter’s ridiculous run differential. The Yankees are giving up far fewer and scoring more runs than Boston. So far it has only translated into a slight lead, however if the trend continues, the Yankees will surely win the AL East.

    …that said, who knows if the trend will continue. The Yankee retread pitching staff is performing better than anyone could have hoped, while the Boston staff is pitching far worse than most expected (though, the same group’s performance last year certainly didn’t suggest an elite starting 5 as they were inexplicably projected to be).

    Comment by Jason — June 7, 2011 @ 3:32 pm

  29. “Los Angeles of Anaheim” doesn’t make a bit of sense.

    Comment by Michael — June 8, 2011 @ 9:32 am

  30. Morgan is a good defensive CF, but he isn’t in the same galaxy as Carlos Gomez. He took away a HR and a double last night. He routinely takes away XBHs. He has a great arm that holds runners. Saying the defense is equivalent is clueless.

    Comment by oh Hal — June 9, 2011 @ 10:04 am

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