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  1. Just like Larry Bernandez!

    Comment by danmerqury — June 28, 2011 @ 1:22 pm

  2. Meh. I hope the Yanks don’t make a lopsided trade this summer. Not this summer, anyway. Sanchez is yours, [insert other teams here]

    Comment by Anthony — June 28, 2011 @ 1:22 pm

  3. What kind of package do you think it would take to acquire Sanchez? Would the Reds have to send 3 or 4 top prospects?

    Comment by Kerry — June 28, 2011 @ 1:28 pm

  4. -insert Michael Jackson joke here-

    Comment by Kevin — June 28, 2011 @ 1:29 pm

  5. Ha! You know, when I saw the headline I thought the same thing…

    Comment by Kerry — June 28, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  6. Really? The drop-off from Sanchez to Jeremy Guthrie is “staggering”? Sanchez has pitched better this season, yes, and of course he’s younger, but they’ve gotten similar results since 2007. And Guthrie did it without ever getting injured.

    Yes, if you use fWAR, Sanchez seems to be much more valuable, but Guthrie is the one pitcher fWAR underrates the most (Guthrie has a .271 BABIP for his career).

    Sanchez career ERA+ (582 IP): 117
    Guthrie career ERA+ (915 IP): 107

    I’ll agree that Sanchez is better by a bit, cheaper by a bit, and younger (though they’ll both be FAs in 2013), but Guthrie is more reliable, and to say that the difference is “staggering” seems like an exaggeration.

    Comment by Edward — June 28, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  7. “Leapfrog” is one word you DOLT.

    Comment by Grover — June 28, 2011 @ 1:52 pm

  8. Capitalization of complete words is general reserved for acronyms. When directly addressing someone, a comma is often used to separate the address from the remainder of the sentence, Grover.

    Comment by And... — June 28, 2011 @ 2:02 pm

  9. Haha

    Comment by Eriz — June 28, 2011 @ 2:17 pm

  10. No, he will definitely not command more than Cliff Lee last summer. If you don’t believe me, see the 1st Cliff Lee deal to the Phillies (and to a lesser extent the one that sent him to the Mariners).

    Teams pay a premium for an “ace,” which Cliff Lee undoubtedly was when he was traded to the Rangers. At that point he was universally regarded as a durable, elite pitcher; thus, and ace. When Lee was traded to the Phillies, he had 1.5 seasons of elite performance under his belt, and had begun that season on the DL with some sort of abdominal injury (in addition to having prior injury issues). I hypothesize that at the time of that trade he was not yet viewed by GMs as an “ace” due to the short track record of elite performance, and the health concerns. As a result, the return was underwhelming.

    Every interested GM will point to the fact that Sanchez has only made 30 starts once in his career, which is coincidentally the only time he made more than 20 in a season.

    Sanchez, while very good, doesn’t have the track record of an ace quality health. He also has a short track record of elite performance. I agree that he will be the only front line pitcher available, but the Marlins won’t be able to extract a premium price for him. I say this because GMs seem to be extremely risk averse. If the average GM can’t sell this guy as an “ace” to the casual fan, then he won’t be willing to pay the price of an ace in prospects.

    I would be surprised if Sanchez commanded a package any better than what the Phillies (and subsequently, the Mariners) gave up to trade for Cliff Lee.

    Comment by Dan — June 28, 2011 @ 2:35 pm

  11. Come to think of it, there might be an inefficiency to be exploited here. If Sanchez can continue to perform at this level and stay healthy between now and next year’s deadline, it’s very likely that he will be significantly more valuable as a trade chip next year.

    Comment by Dan — June 28, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

  12. Never noticed the calendar year split before… very cool

    Comment by Telo — June 28, 2011 @ 2:42 pm

  13. Edward, I really enjoyed reading your comment as you realized how wrong you are, while still sticking adamantly to your point.

    So, to sum: by your own admission, Sanchez is younger, cheaper, and rates significantly better by fWAR and ERA+. If you want to argue that Dave should have used a slightly weaker word than “staggering,” well, OK, but that’s some pretty serious nitpicking. Sanches is clearly much better, and the one advantage Guthrie has—a better history of health—is pretty minor considering we’re talking about a mid-season trade, not a long free-agent contract.

    Comment by Conrad — June 28, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

  14. The Reds would probably have to include one of their two catchers (I’d imagine they’d offer Grandal, given Mesoraco figures to be the starter in 2012 with Hernandez moving on), as guys like Frazier and Alonso aren’t great fits for the Marlins (they have too many corner guys as it is). Grandal, Tekotte, Cozart, and Billy Hamilton perhaps? That’s a lot of up the middle talent, and could help the Marlins fill some gaping holes over the next few years.

    Comment by Sean O'Neill — June 28, 2011 @ 3:06 pm

  15. He is a Cy Young Candidate right now has 107 k’s in a little over 100 innings a miniscule era and whip and is 6 and 1, which should be better. and he may have the most 8+ k games in the league besides Verlander. Comparing him to Guthrie is ridiculuos! Guthries numbers cant ever come close to Anibals and at 27 and with the reemergence of his stuff, him being healthy, and being in shape, Anibal can be a 1 or 2 starter on any club for the next 5 to 6 years. Staggering I believe is the perfect word

    Comment by Garrett — June 28, 2011 @ 3:12 pm

  16. Thanks. That’s what I figured. I think I package of Grandal, Cozart, and Travis Wood (or Mike Leake) would likely be enough. Something the Reds should pursue.

    Comment by Kerry — June 28, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

  17. i saw the title and thought this was going to be another remington BS-fest.

    pleasantly surprised, dave, thank you.

    Comment by jim — June 28, 2011 @ 4:34 pm

  18. If the yankees want any chance of competing with the red sox, they need anibal. The biggest challenge will be not giving up the farm, because the marlins know they have the yanks by the balls if they come asking.

    Comment by phoenix2042 — June 28, 2011 @ 5:45 pm

  19. Highly unlikely the Marlins trade Anibal IMO. He’s their second best pitcher and they’ll need him moving forward. I disagree with you that the Marlins have missed out on an opportunity to sign Sanchez longterm, Nolasco was in the same situation last season and Nolasco was able to stay healthy more so then Anibal. I expect a longterm deal between the Marlins and Sanchez to be completed this off-season.

    Comment by marlinsfan24 — June 28, 2011 @ 6:48 pm

  20. Alonso might actually make some sense. Gaby Sanchez becomes arbitration-eligible next year, and should figure for a first-year award in the neighborhood of $3-4 million. Based on the Marlins’ typical schedule, they’ll likely be looking to move him around mid-season next year to avoid his eventual ~7 million pricetag.

    In the current plans Morrison probably moves back to 1B after Sanchez is gone, but if they can live with his glove in the OF Alonso might be a decent replacement for Gaby.

    Comment by slamcactus — June 28, 2011 @ 7:05 pm

  21. The Marlins confuse me. Even though a new stadium doesn’t mean a higher payroll in the long run, I’m guessing attendance in the new stadium and probably even prices will be higher. If for nothing else, based on the whole “new stadium shine” think that happens where people show up. Maybe the Marlins won’t be selling as much as people think and will use that extra revenue to sign guys.

    I doubt it though, the new stadium is just a swindle for the owner to pocket more money just like in PIT. Personally I wouldn’t trade Anibal. Not with Johnson still there. Sign a quality vet next off season and they could have a very good rotation.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — June 28, 2011 @ 8:37 pm

  22. The Marlins will not trade Sanchez due to the fact they have NO, read that again NO MLB ready rotation pitchers. They have a couple of guys that could do a spot start here and there, but they aren’t polished enough to become rotation starters yet.

    With the new stadium opening next year, and Ticket sales already well ahead of even the Marlins expectations, there will be a promised increase in payroll from our present $ 58 million to over $ 80 million. That could get us one, or maybe two starters and a 3rd baseman. Whoever said we have a plethora of corner guys is dead wrong. 3rd base has been a black hole for us this year, as the plan was for phenom Matt Dominguez to take it over but he bombed out in Spring Training, and then they had to go with Dobbs, Bonifacio & Wes Helms platoon. They all suck defensively, and Helms can even hit his age offensively.

    Comment by KRC — June 29, 2011 @ 10:56 am

  23. ….meanwhile the Yankees sit in first place in the AL East with the best record in the AL. They’ve done it by out-hitting and out-pitching the Redsox to date (despite their team being gutted with injuries). …yeah, it looks hopeless unless they get Anibal Sanchez….

    Comment by Jason — June 29, 2011 @ 11:26 am

  24. As a Yankee fan I wouldn’t even consider trading Montero, Banuelos, or Betances for Sanchez. If they wanted to make a deal around Romine and Nova I’d do it, but not for any of our top top prospects.

    Anibal’s strikeout rate won’t stay the same in the AL, let alone the AL East, and his walk rate would be sure to go up facing DH’s instead of pitchers. Add in the health question marks, and I don’t think you can make a reasonable case Anibal would be worth our best prospects. At best he would be our number 2 pitcher, but its reasonable to ask if he would even be that much of an upgrade over Burnett.

    Comment by T.O. Chris — July 5, 2011 @ 7:20 am

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