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  1. if he keeps getting dropped, isn’t he being viewed by teams and below replacement level?

    Comment by Tom B — June 22, 2009 @ 4:06 pm

  2. yay for grammar! :(

    Comment by Tom B — June 22, 2009 @ 4:06 pm

  3. Great find! I never really saw Ayala play, but he seems like a pitcher version of Willie Bloomquist. Ladies and gentlemen, your Walking Replacement Level Examples!

    Comment by Michael — June 22, 2009 @ 4:10 pm

  4. I think the point of the article is: the Twins thought Ayala had the potential to be above replacement level (or weren’t sure they had other options that would be at least at replacement level). But now they think Ayala’s potential is gone/illusory and that they have an option that may be better than replacement level waiting.

    If no other team picks up Ayala, maybe you could say that teams no longer view him as replacement level. But part of the replacement level notion is that there are plenty of these types of players available to be picked up at little cost, not that all of them get picked up (I think). That’s why the Twins were able to get him pretty cheap and could also put several other similarly performing free agents in AAA to see if any had a chance of being better than replacement.

    Comment by greenmachine — June 22, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

  5. remember when he was closing for the mets last year? that was awesome.

    been a great couple of years for met fans.

    Comment by big baby — June 22, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

  6. Yeah, but there’s no way to measure the positive effect his veteran presence had on such a young team. He’s the kind of guy any manager would love to have – hard worker, shows up on time, does his exercises every day, doesn’t get in fights. A true leader.

    Comment by Mike I — June 22, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

  7. What’s sad is that Ayala was the Twins “answer” to the bullpen woes in the offseason.

    Which makes their ridiculous handling of relief prospects Slama and Delaney all the more painful.

    Comment by twinsfan — June 22, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

  8. I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not, but I love it either way!

    Comment by Terminator X — June 23, 2009 @ 1:45 am

  9. Well… no… there’s no point keeping a replacement level guy on your 40 man – no point in protecting his rights. He’s not worthy of a role on a decent team, and as an injury insurance/back up there’s no need to worry about retaining his rights because he is, by definition, completely replaceable by freely available talent in the minors or off the street.

    Comment by alskor — June 23, 2009 @ 1:45 am

  10. I dont know… its not that terrible a move, if only because he was a) cheap; and b) relievers are incredibly unpredictable year to year. Take a flier and see if it works. There’s no point overpaying for the middle class relievers (cough Farnsworth cough). On a budget, Id rather take a cheap shot on losers I see something I like about.

    Comment by alskor — June 23, 2009 @ 1:55 am

  11. You mean like actually promoting your 24-year-old relief studs out of the low minors in time to find out if they can help you?

    When Ayala is your answer, you’ve been asking the wrong question.

    Comment by twinsfan — June 23, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

  12. Man I remember how ungodly he was for years for the Expos. Blew out his arm during the first WBC and he has never been the same since. To bad! He was on the short list of the best setup men in the game in the early part of this decade. Hope he finds a job and can be useful for someone.

    Comment by PhDBrian — June 23, 2009 @ 11:52 pm

  13. You are getting in the way of viewing all players as simple capital inputs. :)

    Totally out of left field, but I am kinda reminded of the idea of index investing. Someone has to be making actual investment decisions or else the index is meaningless. Hey, SOMEONE has to be your replacement level player. Sure, someone else could do better. Someone else could also do worse. replacement level. Everybody has one. :)

    Comment by wobatus — June 24, 2009 @ 1:01 pm

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