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  1. Where’s mine? :(

    Comment by Clayton Kershaw — August 22, 2011 @ 7:06 am

  2. I like to watch my homers.

    Comment by Carlos GuillĂ©n — August 22, 2011 @ 7:32 am

  3. I hope Jered calms down now he got his deal.

    Comment by Alex Avila — August 22, 2011 @ 7:49 am

  4. I hope he does quite the opposite – every fan wants a little bit of fire from their lead dog

    Comment by Schlist — August 22, 2011 @ 8:34 am

  5. you’re like 14, we’ll talk when you’re a consenting adult

    Comment by jim — August 22, 2011 @ 8:50 am

  6. In the bank account of your next owner.

    Comment by Kevin S. — August 22, 2011 @ 8:52 am

  7. Speak for youself

    Comment by BravesFan 1995 — August 22, 2011 @ 9:14 am

  8. Seriously!

    Comment by DodgersFan 1988 — August 22, 2011 @ 9:15 am

  9. Your first arbitration session should start with the total GDP of France.

    Comment by Ryan — August 22, 2011 @ 9:44 am

  10. Strange that he’s a Boras client but was willing to take a discount to be with the Angels.

    Comment by Marc — August 22, 2011 @ 10:05 am

  11. Gonzalez in CO, now Weaver in LA weird that we have two Boras clients signing extensions that previously he had fought to avoid.

    Comment by DodgersFan 1988 — August 22, 2011 @ 10:44 am

  12. I’ll take one of these.

    With some Oreos and peanut butter thrown in for Heidi Hamels.

    Comment by Cole Hamels — August 22, 2011 @ 11:12 am

  13. He works for them. If they want to stay, it’s best that he represent their interest.

    If you’ve got an offer on the table that won’t embarrass you when you’re trying to get new clients and you don’t have to go through the work of free agency, that’s an easy 2.5 mil.

    Also, I wonder if Boras has looked at the market and thinks the market is going to be bleak for 6 and 7 year offers for pitchers beyond Sabathia.

    Comment by Ryan — August 22, 2011 @ 11:32 am

  14. In Gonzalez’s case, the extension wasn’t really a sacrifice. He capitalized on a huge season and an overzealous GM. If GMs were that careless with regularity, Boras would ink extensions all the time.

    Comment by Welp — August 22, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

  15. Weaver is smart to take the money now. The record of injuries and breakdowns is extremely high for pitchers.

    Comment by GiantHusker — August 22, 2011 @ 1:56 pm

  16. Now all him (and Verlander) need are sweet nicknames

    Comment by Anthony — August 22, 2011 @ 2:05 pm

  17. I still can’t stop smiling… and I’m at work even! Go Halo’s!

    Comment by ettin — August 22, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

  18. here’s my analysis of the deal.. any feedback is greatly appreciated.. let me know what you think.. thanks
    http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/baseballecon

    Comment by Baseball's Econ — August 22, 2011 @ 2:35 pm

  19. I would argue that locking up a 24 YO CF/RF who had 2.2WAR in 09(partial season) 6.6WAR in 2010, and 3WAR so far this year(partial/injury shortened season) through his age 31 season without having to pay for his decline is a savings.

    Gonzalez has been through a severe bought with the flu(April) a wrist he hurt hitting the wall(July) and has still manage a .224ISO with career best BB% and K% guaranteeing him 17 million a year for the first 3 years of FA seems like a decent risk.

    Comment by Mr wOBAto — August 22, 2011 @ 2:42 pm

  20. I’ve heard Scott Boras speak a few times and a question was asked about the Gonzalez extension in CO….

    Don’t underestimate where Gonzalez came from. Boras strongly emphasized that Gonzalez came from a poor community and family and the security was way more important than the huge payday. He said it was hard for Gonzalez to look his family and friends in the eyes and explain how he continued to turn down money before finally accepting his 80 mil.

    Like Ryan said, Boras works for the player and does what the player wants.

    Comment by Snoth — August 22, 2011 @ 3:20 pm

  21. Weav is though about as low risk as a pitcher can be. He has a huge frame and puts very little stress on his arm with his delivery.

    Comment by Snoth — August 22, 2011 @ 3:22 pm

  22. [1] CazrGo had a career year.

    [2] Weaver is a pitcher. Hence he’s awaiting his lost season to injury.

    Same deal with King Felix. These guys signed good extensions while they were healthy. If theyhad waited for free agency, they risked an injury-season that drastically dropped their value.

    Imagine if Wainwright was a free agent after 2011. Would he have been dumb to sign a 5/85 deal in 2010? No.

    We seem to talk out of the both sides of our mouths in regards to pitchers. We talk of the risk associated with them due to injury, and then question why/how they sign for lesser money in exchange for security.

    Given the conomy and enviornment, combined with the risk of injury that drastically lowers ones leverage, I’m confident that all 3 pitchers feel great about their deals.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — August 22, 2011 @ 3:38 pm

  23. Waiting for the Giants to do this with Lincecum and Cain!

    /dreaming

    Comment by Evan — August 22, 2011 @ 4:57 pm

  24. Total shit.

    Comment by John — August 22, 2011 @ 5:23 pm

  25. did you even read the post?.. if so please explain why it’s so bad

    Comment by Baseball's Econ — August 22, 2011 @ 6:41 pm

  26. maxing out at like 93 will do that for you

    Comment by jim — August 22, 2011 @ 8:53 pm

  27. Vernon Wells

    Comment by My echo and bunnymen — August 22, 2011 @ 9:33 pm

  28. CC do you really believe 2010 was the only season between now and 2016 where CarGo is going to be a 3.5WAR player? The guy has had a bit of bad health in april when he had a severe case of the flu in the three weeks after he had a .158/.210/.228 with a .205BABIP since May he has a .307/.382/.575 with a .325BABIP with 20HR 13SB/4CS.

    Justin Upton has a .298/.370/.545 with 25HR and 19SB in 127 games
    CarGo has a .287/.358/.511 with 21HR and 16SB in 107 games
    one is an MVP candidate one is a bad signing?

    Comment by Mr wOBAto — August 23, 2011 @ 10:15 am

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