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  1. It’s a shame he has such a hard time staying off the DL. The dude can rake when he’s healthy.

    Comment by Kyle — November 4, 2011 @ 2:41 pm

  2. Can we get an official FanGraphs trade machine to calculate the values of a trade for Martin Prado (or anyone else)? Like the one for basketball on ESPN

    I’m not saying I would fake trade Tony Pena Jr. for Cliff Lee. Ok yes I am

    Oh maybe Bruce Chen for Zack Greinke with Ron Roenicke yells “Come on CHEN” in the background?

    http://www.sbnation.com/2010/6/5/1647154/hollywood-royalty-invades-royals

    Comment by not bill simmons — November 4, 2011 @ 2:41 pm

  3. The Tigers should be all over Prado. There are so few free agent options for 2B and 3B, and the Tigers are in dire need of both. More specifically, the Tigers need two bats for the top of the lineup and they need them at those two infield positions. Prado would be one- Callaspo or Maicer Izturis might be the other, if the Angels are in a selling mood.

    Comment by tigerdog1 — November 4, 2011 @ 2:47 pm

  4. I have always been under the impression that Prado was an elite defender at 3B and above average to good at 2B. I think you are selling his glove short, at least in the infield, but agree that the Braves should move him due to his offensive profile. He doesn’t provide speed or power and the presence of Uggla and Chipper render his optimal positional value useless. I’d like to see him + JJ fetch a solid corner bat, but we’ll see.

    Comment by Luke M — November 4, 2011 @ 2:59 pm

  5. Title alliteration challenge accepted.

    “Braves ain’t too Prado to Beg for Trade.”

    I also have a PG-13 version but will save that for another day.

    Comment by Choo — November 4, 2011 @ 3:14 pm

  6. I don’t think that means what you think it means. Still funny, though.

    Comment by Ben — November 4, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

  7. Trading Prado is silly for Atlanta. He doesn’t have the bat for LF but his usefulness lies in his ability to play all over. The Braves need an in house option at 3B who can be adequate given Chipper’s limitations. Add that in with Prado’s ability to play LF, 2B, or RF again due to injuries or Heyward not being able to hit lefties again and Prado is well worth his salary to Atlanta. If the team trades Jurrjens, signs a left fielder (Willingham?) who can hit, and re-signs Gonzalez as Pastonicky being awful insruance, the team is in very good shape.

    Comment by peachesnnuts — November 4, 2011 @ 3:44 pm

  8. I hope the Mariners make an attempt to acquire Prado. I don’t think they’ll make a play on Aramis so Prado might be the best option.

    Comment by gu03alum — November 4, 2011 @ 3:54 pm

  9. The Braves for contemplate moving Uggla to left and Prado to second.

    Comment by Semi Pro — November 4, 2011 @ 3:57 pm

  10. *should not for

    Comment by Semi Pro — November 4, 2011 @ 3:58 pm

  11. haha, same reaction except I have a universal dislike of punny titles. Not puns, just titles with puns.

    Comment by Brad Johnson — November 4, 2011 @ 3:59 pm

  12. The metaphor that you’re stretching for is “down the pike”.

    Comment by Basil Ganglia — November 4, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

  13. Im hoping for a Prado to the Jays for Travis Snider. Jays get their second baseman and take Prado off the market ala Alex Gon so as to entice teams like the Tigers to go after Kelly Johnson and give us a draft pick! (no I haven’t checked where Detroit will pick) but pie in the sky.

    If only Snider wasn’t another left handed bat for the Braves.

    Comment by Brando — November 4, 2011 @ 4:13 pm

  14. Prado is slightly above average at 3B and below average at 2B. He is no where near an “elite” glove.

    Comment by The Rajah — November 4, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

  15. I don’t think the Braves will want Snider

    Comment by Woodman — November 4, 2011 @ 4:49 pm

  16. Mariners could peel off some minor league pitching to pick up Prado, and use Prado in a platoon to see if Liddi/Seager figure things out and settle in.

    Comment by Chris from Bothell — November 4, 2011 @ 4:57 pm

  17. Except signing Willingham ties up about 20% of the team’s payroll for the next 3 years in aging right handed sluggers who can’t play defense. Angel Pagan is the much better option.

    Comment by BSally — November 4, 2011 @ 5:33 pm

  18. Call me crazy, but I don’t think the Braves are looking for minor-league pitching…….

    Comment by Undocorkscrew — November 4, 2011 @ 6:18 pm

  19. would the haul for Prado set the market for good batting-average bad-defense sorta-young utility types…and if so what could the Mets get for Dan Murphy

    Comment by tcnjsteve — November 4, 2011 @ 6:39 pm

  20. Ah, like “Prado’s providence portends peril” or something. Yeah, that’s a tough one.

    Jair Jurrjens should be easy – he’s a one-man alliteration – but I’m thrown off by the fact he sounds like he belongs in the Star Wars cantina.

    Comment by Choo — November 4, 2011 @ 7:52 pm

  21. Yes! Thanks, but I think for now I’ll leave it as it as a testament to my literary “brilliance.”

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — November 4, 2011 @ 9:07 pm

  22. Would love for the Cubs to make Prado the starting 3B.

    Comment by KyleJo — November 4, 2011 @ 9:59 pm

  23. This just in, Braves enjoy “Buying High, Selling Low: Establishing an operational business plan!”

    Seriously, they bought Derek Lowe at the peak of his value, refused to trade him way back in May when he was a desirable option, then dumped his contract as the year ended and his value bottomed out. They sold Yunel Escobar right at his value bottomed out, buying Alex Gonzalez at the highest value he’d ever carried. They’re now trading Jurrjens and Prado-Jurrjens was hurt to start and end the season, and Prado had his worst year at the plate since his promotion. Heck, they also traded for Michael Bourn when he was having a career year.

    Is it possible the organization doesn’t look far beyond stats from the previous season?

    Comment by Bronnt — November 4, 2011 @ 10:48 pm

  24. I said the same thing elsewhere… good fit for Tigers. I have no idea who they have that would interest the Braves but maybe Raburn plus prospect….? or some other prospect package…

    Comment by Say Hey — November 5, 2011 @ 12:41 am

  25. yeah, if Mets hang onto Wright, they would have to move Murphy. They cannot keep both. I don’t see Murphy returning to 2B or any other position beside 3B.

    Comment by Say Hey — November 5, 2011 @ 12:57 am

  26. I would hate to be a team expecting Prado to play 150 games or more at second. He could probably stay healthy at third or left, but I think his days as a full-time second baseman are over.

    Comment by Phantom Stranger — November 5, 2011 @ 2:03 am

  27. In other words, they do the exact same thing as the Rays from a player development standpoint (insane amounts of quality pitching and the occasional great bat), but the exact opposite with their Major League talent.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — November 5, 2011 @ 5:58 am

  28. Willing ham is going to sign a three year, $54 million deal?

    Comment by The Real Neal — November 5, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

  29. Prado would be an excellent player for anyteam and I would love it if the Reds could get him. Detroit would solve the problem of Inge demise.

    Comment by david silverwood — November 5, 2011 @ 4:41 pm

  30. A lot less, given that Murphy can’t field any position well.

    Comment by NickC — November 5, 2011 @ 5:25 pm

  31. Not sure what that means, he isn’t old and is probably recovered from the injuries by now. He would be perfectly fine playing 2B. In my opinion that is his best natural position.

    Comment by Smoltzite — November 5, 2011 @ 5:59 pm

  32. that’s not what uzr says…

    Comment by Say Hey — November 5, 2011 @ 6:58 pm

  33. So long as teams don’t give up a lot, Prado and JJ could be a fit in a whole lot of places. I just hope nobody’s dumb enough to give up even a future borderline tier one starting position player for either one.

    Comment by Subtle — November 5, 2011 @ 8:35 pm

  34. Hart + Low Lever Pitcher
    for
    JJ + Prado

    Braves get their solid RH corner OF. Under contract for 2 more years (at a steal compared to Werth/Bay)

    Brewers get a 3B who can field and a starter under control to give them the opportunity to trade Marcum/Wolf for a upgrade a SS.

    Comment by cvoll — November 5, 2011 @ 9:05 pm

  35. I don’t think anyone thought Derek Lowe was going to be significantly worse by the end of the year than he was in May. If he was traded in May you could’ve made the case then that he was traded at lowest value. Heck, you could argue that his value increased by the end of the season because it means he would have less years left on his contract; therefore, less risky.

    Comment by Ben — November 5, 2011 @ 11:00 pm

  36. Ha. Real Neal. That was exactly what I was thinking.

    Comment by d — November 6, 2011 @ 12:02 am

  37. At the beginning of May, he’d just finished a strong month of April, had come off a couple of decent postseason starts, and an excellent month of September. There were rumors swirling around about teams approaching the Braves for Derek Lowe, what they were asking for. Frank Wren then came out and said, “Derek Lowe is off the table.”

    They could have offloaded significantly more of his 2012 salary than they did if they had not waited, and it would have come with the added bonus that he wouldn’t have been on the team after the All-Star Break, when he was bad. I was so excited back then, even though he was pitching well at that point, that he might get traded and the Braves could clear his salary.

    Comment by Bronnt — November 6, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

  38. If the Braves are smart I think they can get a decent haul for Prado. Right now, he’s the best 2b on the market.

    Comment by Ben — November 6, 2011 @ 6:42 pm

  39. Willingham is going to get something in the region of 3 years/$25 million. Uggla would be the other aging right handed slugger who can’t play defense.

    Comment by BSally — November 6, 2011 @ 11:36 pm

  40. A lot of the arguments against Wren are made in retrospect and I think it’s kinda dumb. Yea, in retrospect they should have traded him before he was a terrible pitcher. Or if he repeats his 2010 September, and Wren trades him in May, Wren looks like an idiot. Were there any articles saying “Wren needs to trade Lowe asap, he’s going to be really REALLY bad the rest of the years and the Braves are going to have a historic collapse in large part because of it”.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — November 7, 2011 @ 1:01 am

  41. I would love this, but what do the Tigs have to offer? Their farm system is essentially Turner and a bunch of mannequins.

    Comment by Nathan — November 7, 2011 @ 8:31 am

  42. I don’t understand the idea that the Braves would trade Prado for “salary relief and an iffy prospect or two”…

    If they needed the salary relief, their worst-case scenario is just non-tendering Prado. I think it’s safe to say the Braves wouldn’t consider that a sane thing to do in terms of giving up that value for nothing.

    Any iffy prospect or two is going to change their stance on that? I doubt it. I’m not a huge fan of Wren, but I think he can do much better than what is being suggested here

    Comment by Dave — November 7, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

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