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  1. Another question should be “How many times per year do you listen/watch these broadcasters?”

    Comment by CircleChange11 — November 28, 2011 @ 10:09 am

  2. Agree.

    I’m very curious to see the results of the 30 teams, but there’s a high probability that the rankings will be based on who gets more hometown votes.

    I’m a Marlins fan, so Rich and Tommy are the broadcasters I know the most. Because of this, I can vote confidently on those two when the time comes. But with almost any other team, I’m not familiar enough with the broadcasters to give them a rating.

    Perhaps adding a question of how many times you’ve listened to the broadcasters will give a better picture and allow you to filter those who may have listened to a team 20 or more times.

    Comment by Eddy — November 28, 2011 @ 10:45 am

  3. If Buck Martinez name appears anywhere on your home teams’ list, can you just have it auto-vote to 0?

    Comment by Big Jgke — November 28, 2011 @ 10:47 am

  4. I suggest controlling for whether respondents have satellite radio or not. I only know many of the broadcast teams because I don’t hear my home broadcasters for away games.

    I also assume things will be skewed a bit for John Miller, and need to differentiate between Giants broadcasts and national broadcasters.

    Comment by ChrisFromBothell — November 28, 2011 @ 11:04 am

  5. Can we skip to Joe Buck and Tim McCarver or are we saving the fun stuff for last?

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — November 28, 2011 @ 11:27 am

  6. Does crowd- sourcing mean the same thing as ‘defenestration?’ If so, I cast my vote now to crowd-source John Sterling.

    Comment by designated quitter — November 28, 2011 @ 11:54 am

  7. I want Chris Berman

    Comment by adohaj — November 28, 2011 @ 11:57 am

  8. USA Today undertook this exact project, albeit with radio announcers, back in 2005.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2005-07-26-announcers-overview_x.htm#al

    Comment by AJS — November 28, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

  9. Can’t wait to rate Dick Bremer and Bert “Create a good downward plane” Blyleven.

    Comment by Bryz — November 28, 2011 @ 12:40 pm

  10. Feh, missed the part where you are starting with tv first. Well, my comment will apply when your series is wildly successful and you do the same for radio.

    Comment by ChrisFromBothell — November 28, 2011 @ 12:41 pm

  11. Thanks for the link. The Jays’ Warren Sawkiw was horribly irritating–I actually couldn’t take listening to him at all. I would suspect the current Toronto team of Jerry Howarth and Alan Ashby will score much better.

    Comment by Adrock — November 28, 2011 @ 12:41 pm

  12. Yeah, thanks for that.

    Anyone read that Curt Smith book, Voices of Summer? Sounds interesting.

    Comment by Carson Cistulli — November 28, 2011 @ 1:01 pm

  13. Regarding those ratings, it seems like there’s a pretty strong correlation between each of the individual categories. The Dodger team, for example, gets 9.5s across the board; the Nationals and Diamondbacks get 6s.

    Comment by Carson Cistulli — November 28, 2011 @ 1:07 pm

  14. You’re with me, leather

    Comment by joser — November 28, 2011 @ 1:10 pm

  15. Does anybody know how that dude got the job? I mean he just showed up out of thin air one year, was unbearably awful and then disappeared. There were a couple of fairly terrible guys working with the acceptably mediocre, if syrupy voiced, Jerry Howarth before Ashby came on the scene and rescued the Jays stale radio sound.

    Comment by Big Jgke — November 28, 2011 @ 1:53 pm

  16. The White Sox announcers (don’t know their names) are really annoying. The phrase ‘he gone!!’ whenever they get a home run is among the most aggravating in sports. They are the only announcing team I cannot stand to listen to and I’ve heard almost every team’s announcers multiple times this year & for the past couple of years. Among the best are the Reds, Dodgers, Brewers & Twins. I actually don’t think Buck Martinez is that bad.

    Comment by Jeff — November 28, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

  17. This is a great project. Thanks for doing it.

    Comment by Josh Wexler — November 28, 2011 @ 4:32 pm

  18. Hawk Harrelson is the annoying one. He’s mentioned above in appropriately disparaging fashion. STeve Stone i actually a knowledgable color man. He’s not so big on advanced metrics but he will teach you how to pitch – why a pitcher throws a pitch in a given situation, how to set up a hitter, really cool stuff. I can’t count the number of times he has said “if he throws [specific pitch] here he’ll get [specific result]” and then it happens. It’s really cool. Unfortunately, you can’t mute half the broadcast.

    Comment by MikeS — November 28, 2011 @ 5:30 pm

  19. Uecker’s not wrong. After a Wisconsin vacation this summer I came to the conclusion that the four major food groups in Wisconsin are meat, cheese, fried and beer.

    Comment by MikeS — November 28, 2011 @ 5:31 pm

  20. On YES we Yankee fans have to deal with Michael Kay most often, so that will kill the NYY rankings. For one or two series a year we get the dream team of Singleton, Cone, and Leiter. I learn so much about baseball every time I watch their broadcasts.

    Alas, the egomaniac that is Kay ruins so many games…

    Comment by Yankees Fan — November 28, 2011 @ 5:53 pm

  21. What Josh Wexler said. Bravo for tackling this. Disclosure: I’m a White Sox fan living in Brewers country after being subjected to the Yankees since the days of ‘Phil Rizzuto for the money sto-ah.’. Earaches? I know earaches.

    It matters whether a broadcaster reflects his market. Folks-y, no-frills Uecker IS Wisconsin — we’re almost single-minded in our focus on OUR teams, to the point where no one raises a peep when an NFL broadcast from Wayne and Larry fails to mention an NFL squad other than the Packers and whoever they happen to be playing. Ueck will never mention BABIP, at least not coherently, but he’s the right guy for this job.

    The problem with Hawk is that Sox fans aren’t the “He gawn” type so much as they are quick to criticize, a la Harry Caray. Me thinks his act might play better in Kansas City or Charlotte or similar smaller ooutpost. (Incidentally Hawk’s trademark is used for strikeouts of opposing batters, not home runs.)

    Can’t wait to see how this plays out … and to unload once we get a shot at the John Sterling/Suzyn Waldman radio daze.

    Comment by Rodgers_neighborhood — November 28, 2011 @ 7:13 pm

  22. I’ve been saying this for a while now, the Yankees should trade their entire broadcast team plus Jesus Montero for Vin Scully

    Comment by H — November 28, 2011 @ 7:57 pm

  23. Anything less than Bob Uecker is a disappointment. Mr. Baseball.

    Comment by JSprech — November 28, 2011 @ 10:17 pm

  24. So you’re the Marlins fan.

    Comment by Nick — November 28, 2011 @ 10:21 pm

  25. This was said in the August thread, but: announcers should be rated individually. Giving Hawk Harrelson credit for stuff that Steve Stone says is like giving baseball players RBIs for hitting behind good batters.

    Comment by fang2415 — November 29, 2011 @ 12:27 am

  26. Hey, thanks for the input here. Took your advice for the Atlanta Television crowdsourcing (on Tuesday). Will how it works out.

    Comment by Carson Cistulli — November 29, 2011 @ 10:48 am

  27. Bert “at the Major League level” Blyleven and Bert “right here/right there” Blyleven also apply.

    Comment by glassSheets — December 5, 2011 @ 2:51 pm

  28. Don’t forget the team of Jim Deshaies and Bill Brown in Houston. Houston may be cursed with a crap team, but they’ve been blessed with a rich harvest of personable, low-drama, insightful analysts going back to the unforgettable salad days with Larry Dierker and Brown.

    Comment by Austin — January 5, 2012 @ 1:47 am

  29. Great project. I’ve voted on effort. If you don’t like a guy’s style, that’s one thing. But I get the sense some longtime broadcasters mail it in. Pronunciation gaffs, lack of accurate background info is really frustrating.

    Comment by Tim Martin — January 30, 2012 @ 11:46 am

  30. Stone is the best analyst I’ve heard when it comes to the pitcher vs. hitter battles. The guy knows his stuff.

    Comment by Tex Pantego — February 29, 2012 @ 10:43 am

  31. Thw Ranger’s color man, Tom Grieve, is super bland and provides nothing insightful in terms of insider knowlege. A 1/4 of thetime he mumbles, a 1/4 of the time he thanx the people who brought the crew food, a 1/4 of the time, he says nothing, and 1/4 of the time he,… I honestly can’t remember. On the road, he’ll talk about the restaurants he visits a lot. He’ll never be fired though. He’s just on autpilot basically. The idea of him actually prepping fora game, going over stats, etc…. would never happen with Grieve.

    But after suffering RexHudler back when I live in LA, nothing will ever seem as bad. THe near-nothingness of Grieves mumblings will always trump Hudlers a squrrel-on-crack hyper-homer drivel.

    Comment by Tex Pantego — February 29, 2012 @ 10:54 am

  32. Where do Kruk and Kuip fit in your mix?

    Comment by RRM — March 6, 2012 @ 1:37 pm

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