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  1. Ugh

    Comment by Eminor3rd — December 16, 2011 @ 11:04 am

  2. Addison Reed is a RHP, no LHP. Well you got his name correct.

    Comment by Jim Strasburg — December 16, 2011 @ 11:37 am

  3. thanks for catching the typo.

    Comment by Marc Hulet — December 16, 2011 @ 11:46 am

  4. What Eminor said!

    With Flowers, Humber, Sale, Stewart, and Viciedo slated for the major league roster, at least it can be said that we have some of our best young talent at the top of the organization.

    Comment by JP — December 16, 2011 @ 11:57 am

  5. The World Series win was the greatest thing I’ve ever experienced as a fan, but it bought Kenny Williams far too much time as GM. And how is Rick Hahn such a big time GM prospect if he allows this nonsense to go on?

    Comment by West — December 16, 2011 @ 11:58 am

  6. To Marc Hulet: I know he was left unprotected in the Rule 5, but has Jordan Danks fallen completely off the radar?

    Comment by JP — December 16, 2011 @ 12:05 pm

  7. It seems no one thinks his bat can play at the major league level.

    Comment by James — December 16, 2011 @ 12:47 pm

  8. I knew this was going to be ugly.

    Comment by MikeS — December 16, 2011 @ 1:12 pm

  9. ” The right-hander has the potential to develop into a No. 4 starter ”

    Santiago is LHP

    Comment by striker — December 16, 2011 @ 1:42 pm

  10. He’s also never been given the chance. He showed a lot in the first half of last season but regressed into mediocrity in the second half. He’s still probably our best defender in the minors and his power seems to be developing a bit but he still strikes out way too much. Next year is put up or ship out for Jordan.

    Comment by MatManz — December 16, 2011 @ 2:03 pm

  11. I am constantly bewildered at how high people are rating Trayce Thompson in the Sox system. He has power but VERY little else. I’m still annoyed that the Sox failed to protect Terry Doyle in the Rule 5 Draft, he is 26 now and doesn’t have blow away stuff but he posts consistently low walk and HR rates which could be very helpful in the Cell.

    Comment by MatManz — December 16, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

  12. I think it’s more a tribute to just how lousy and aged this list is. Trayce might be the only player here that’s younger than 21 years old? and he’ll be a 21 year old in A+ ball with a 30+ K%. The icing on the cake is having a relief pitcher top the list.

    The White Sox have to realize that they are not the system to be developing “the exceptional raw athlete”, the into a professional ball player. They have had no success whatsoever in the past, but they can’t resist these scenarios.

    When I think of how the Sox draft, I immediately picture the people who mindlessly line up at the corner store throwing out 20 bucks a day to buy lottery tickets… waking up every morning dreaming what life will be like when their persistence finally pays off.

    Comment by baty — December 16, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

  13. sorry it’s nothing against Marc’s list… I meant to say “how lousy and aged the talent on this list is”.

    Comment by baty — December 16, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

  14. Interesting point on developing the “raw athlete”. You’re right I cannot really recall the Sox having success there. But, I would question what the success rate of that is overall as I cannot recall many teams who have had success in that department?

    Those guys are invariably high risk/high reward types, but who really has produced the high reward?

    Comment by Colin — December 16, 2011 @ 3:23 pm

  15. For sure, that’s the idea. The are fixated with greatly contrasting combinations of high risk/high reward and low risk/low reward pieces.

    Comment by baty — December 16, 2011 @ 3:48 pm

  16. It’s like I get to watch Joe Borchard over and over again. At least the Sox aren’t willing to throw record signing bonuses at these types of people any more.

    Comment by eriqjaffe — December 16, 2011 @ 4:55 pm

  17. I’m not one of those Cub fans that despises everything White Sox, but I look over there and always wonder where the grown-ups are. The system seems to reward loyalty over talent. If the public faces of the franchise, the major league team and front office, are such a cornucopia of intrigue, backstabbing, fingerpointing (witness the latest story by Joe Cowley of the Sun Times regarding pitching coach Don Cooper) and just plain bad decision making, why should we expect that the rest of the organization is any different? Reinsdorf needs to wake up and realize that while Kenny Williams may be like a son to him, he is simply not good for that team; blow up the front office and start over as the Cubs have done.

    Comment by shel — December 16, 2011 @ 11:05 pm

  18. Kind of scary to think Walker and Thompson are the #3 and 4 prospects….. but even scarier that they would have been 2 and 3 if not for the Molina trade.

    And a 26/27 year old as the #5 propsect?

    (not disagreeing with the rankings, but wow I had not realized their system was so depleted)

    Comment by Fred — December 17, 2011 @ 1:34 am

  19. Their top two prospects are both relievers. LOL

    Hopefully now Kenny can spend more time picking up players that are good at baseball and less time worrying about his manager.

    Comment by Franklin Stubbs — December 17, 2011 @ 6:29 pm

  20. West – Kenny holds all the power here. Do you really he gives anything Hahn says serious consideration?

    Comment by sox2727 — December 18, 2011 @ 9:42 am

  21. Shel I ask myself this question everyday. Jerry needs to at some point stop his “hands off approach” and be the CEO of the team that he is supposed to be. The team has made the playoffs 1 time in 6 years and I can’t think of any other major market team where this would be acceptable yet they just continue with business as usual because guys are “loyal.”

    Comment by sox2727 — December 18, 2011 @ 9:45 am

  22. Anytime the words “White Sox” and “Prospects” appear in the same sentence I get a sick feeling in my stomach…this article justifies it.

    Comment by sox2727 — December 18, 2011 @ 9:46 am

  23. how bout you worry about the cubs and dont count your chickens before they hatch with theo “carl crawford” epstein. the funny part is, the team with no grown ups wins 79 games in a terrible year, while you jokers win 65 every year. and cowley is a known hack with an anti KW agenda. so honestly stfu and worry about the lovable losers and that dump in boystown. and be enough of a man to not preface your statements with but so you can weasel out of criticism.

    Comment by getoutofhere — December 20, 2011 @ 6:11 pm

  24. “On the plus side, the organization has lucked into a few interesting prospects”

    This statement alone ruins any credibility this “author” might have. Seriously? “Lucked into”? You have no idea about baseball scouting.

    Comment by Bobby — December 25, 2011 @ 1:57 pm

  25. I’m a life-long Sox fan with a very high tolerance for management incompetance.

    For almost 50 years, I’ve been watching the Sox organization shoot themselves in the foot and hurt themselves with inadequate leadership.

    ….Same as it ever was.

    Comment by Scott McEwen — April 2, 2012 @ 5:51 pm

  26. bobby hit it right on the head. this guy has no idea about baseball scouting.and as a previous person mentioned, we have now got 4, 5, 6 or more guys who would be in our upper minors, going north with the team. these guys don’t count???

    Comment by dennis galetti sr. — April 4, 2012 @ 2:18 pm

  27. But you forgot to say “End of Story.”

    Comment by joel — April 23, 2012 @ 9:25 pm

  28. So from what I could tell, Kenny only drafts 3 different players. Pitchers with hard fastballs but bad control, hitters who can hit for power and that’s about it, and middle infielders who are good at fielding… that’s pretty much it. I’d love for the team to get Youk from the Red Sox but they have no prospects to give up. There’s a reason Law described the White Sox farm system as 30th and not very close to 29th.

    Comment by Bennett — May 8, 2012 @ 11:15 am

  29. No analysis of the White Sox farm system ever mentions Tyler Kuhn or Brady Shoemaker, who have hit well for average everywhere they have played; or top performers from the 2011 draft like Marcus Semien, Kevan Smith, Blair Walters, and Mark Haddow. Sox prospects are often unheralded, even as they rise to the major league level, because they don’t have jaw-dropping skills. So they don’t become stars of the game, but they become valuable parts of the teams they play for.

    Comment by Jeffrey Hobbs — June 2, 2012 @ 3:25 pm

  30. You look like a genius in June with this comment while our Scrubs Chum appears as clueless as a Pug in a dog fight. How any LL fan can attempt baseball analysis, when the LL attraction is entirely based on loyalty rather than performance, is sweetly ironic.

    And LLL, if you’re going to post performance stats, it is two Division Championships, one American League Championship and ONE World Series Championship over the last seven years. Mustn’t purposefully avoid 2005!!

    Comment by EastofWestern — June 11, 2012 @ 6:47 am

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