As David mentioned, considering Ludwick’s major opposite platoon split for his career, the fact that pujols hits anybody, and how well rasmus has done this year against RH I’m not too worried about it. You take what you can get and Holliday is a huge upgrade over what they currently have, and he was the best player available.
Hell I’m sure the Cards would be happy that other teams are selecting their pitchers based on handedness rather than talent. Just like I hope teams try to throw lefties out against the Phillies in order to ‘exploit’ Utley, Howard, Ibanez, and Werth.
Maybe you haven’t seen tonight’s lineup. It includes Ankiel instead of Rasmus. Yippee!!! And, gee, wouldn’t it be great if there was a left-handed 3B available? Hmm…. What about within the organization? Anyone? Is there anyone at, say, AAA who plays 3B and is a pretty good hitter and might be able to help us this year and for 6 more years? Oops! Not any more!
The Cardinals have not hit lefties for three years. The DeRosa and Holliday trades, along with the Duncan deal, eliminate that problem b/c now they don’t have to worry about Ankiel or Duncan getting chewed up by lefties and they don’t have to play Joe Thurston, who just stinks anyway.
I’m not the least bit worried about how they’ll fair against righties. From the second he’s been a major leaguer, Ludwick has exhibited a reverse platoon split. Rasmus has done well vs. RH considering he’s 22. Pujols hits anyone.
This team has dramatically fixed its offensive Achillies Heel…ineptitude vs. LHP. This trade should be bashed, but this is a pretty week angle upon which to attack it.
The Cardinals can solve this “so called” problem easily with a platoon of
Ankiel and Ludwick in RF. What is wrong with you lately. All you seem to do is bitch about mole hills.
Comment by giantsrainman — July 24, 2009 @ 5:38 pm
not to mention yadier is hitting above .300 against rhp this year. both schumaker and razzle dazzle drastically hit rhp better. so spreading them apart in the order will force opposing managers to use their lefty specialist on one or the other.
Read the article, raced home to make the Luddy, Holliday reverse platoon, Pujols kills everyones, Cards kill righties, we WERE helpless vs lefties argument. Beaten to the punch by like 10 people. Oh well.
People get way too worked up about lineup balance. You either have good hitters or you dont. Pujols followed by holliday should be the premier 3/4 combo in the game for the rest of the year regardless of which side of the plate they stand on.
Although, as a clarification, if the lower part of the order has demonstrated over a large size that they are consistently high obp (relative to league avg for that position in the batting order) then I would agree with you. Simply don’t know enough about the bottom of their order.
Regardless, if it became a problem of sheer handedness, Ankiel is able to fill in at any OF position, and bat left handed.
Considering Pujols and Ludwick can hit RHB, and Ankiel as backup, I don’t think it’ll be a big deal. It’s far worse to have too many left handed batters. I’m reasonably certain that RHB are far more used to facing RHP than LHB are to facing LHP, given the ratio of right handed players to left handed ones.
“Ankiel is playing over Rasmus? What? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of trading for Matt Holliday?”
Yes, yes it does.
But then again Tony La Russa has probably been waiting around all year for Rick to have any kind of blip of good play so he didn’t have to play Rasmus. He’s convinced that all young players need to be babied and coddled and cannot handle being put into positions where they have to start. He’s really lost it IMO. 13 man pitching staffs, while only using 12 of those guys, were just the beginning I’m afraid.
2008 Brewers team split:
v. RHP OPS+97
v. LHP OPS+113
2009 Cardinals (as of 7/25/09):
v. RHP OPS+106
v. LHP OPS+76
2009 Holliday (as of 7/25/09):
v. RHP OPS+141
v. LHP OPS+105
2009 DeRosa (as of 7/25/09):
v. RHP OPS+97
v. LHP OPS+169
The Cardinals are significantly improved, especially when considering the defensive improvement at LF and 3B, in the present with these two trades. Dave was probably just ignorant of the cardinals proclivity for hitting RHP…and their total difficulty handling LHP.
I’d rather see Wallace at third and DeRosa in left than have made this last deal giving up the top third base prospect in baseball for 2 months of Holliday. Wallace is MLB-ready right now, and who knows what we’ll get for Holliday’s draft picks. Meanwhile, Ankiel is just turning around and could platoon anywhere in the outfield. Mortensen could join a weak rotation tomorrow, and Peterson is a solid CF prospect. Eventually, people will learn Billy Beane never gets the worse end of a deal (RE: Let’s go after Mark Mulder!). Look at the seasons Haren and Calero are having right now and Daric Barton’s potential and it lands itself in Brock-for-Broglio territory. Btw, this deal’s worse.
Funny to see this here, I was watching the Cardinals-Phils game on Saturday and I was distrubed by the abundance of right-handed bats…I mean isn’t something like 75-78% of starting pitchers right-handed?
In all fairness though, Pujols might as well be a switch hitter, because I do not think he has much of a platoon-split to speak of.
I am too tired to look up the other righties numbers .vs. righties…but maybe they also do not have bad splits…?
Still, it is troubling for sure, I always think a team needs at least 4 lefties/switch hitters in the starting line-up.
Oh Matty my friend. Did you read the other coments before postong? Everything you just said has already been said or was debunked…
Pujols, Holliday, Schumaker, DeRosa, Ludwick, and Rasmus have no trouble hitting righties. Just b/c they arent lefties or swtch hitters doesnt mean they cant hit righty pitching.
The Cards had your 4 lefties/switch hitters. It wasnt working.
just for the fun of it a list of lefty 3rd baseman or people who could play 3rd and maybe be available just for the sake of his argument
Russell Branyan, Aubry Huff(played some 3rd last year not this year), Mark Teahen, Hank Blaylock, Bonifacio(switch), Felipe Lopez-switch(already traded- that would have been funny though), Ian Sewart(likely not available), Chase Headly, Adam Kennedy (F that), Chris Davis, craig counsell
chipper, sandoval, figgins are switch hitters but are not going anywhere
I know they all wouldnt have made sense for them to trade for just a list