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  1. I love it. Someone put that shit on a T-shirt!

    Comment by Kyle — January 13, 2012 @ 3:54 pm

  2. Only time will tell how they did, but in my opinion it was a really good off-season for the Marlins. They accomplished all their goals, including making THE splash (quick strike on Reyes) that put some ass on the seats, getting media coverage (Ozzie and Big Z! as if HanRam+Morrison is not enough drama) and building a arguably contending team (Maybe 2nd WC?). I like how their team looks and if JJ can pitch 200 and the youngsters develop as expected, Marlins can be a high octane offensive team with pitching that is just enough to beat any teams in baseball(sounds like Red Sox 2011)

    Comment by Kampfer — January 13, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

  3. I’m still more curious about ’13 than ’12. If the team is successful, but the fans don’t show up right now, what do they do? They need a massive uptick in revenue to cover the team now, are they patient and hope sustained success brings fans? Or do we see another fire-sale?

    Comment by deadpool — January 13, 2012 @ 4:42 pm

  4. How can Johnson pitch 200 innings? He’s only done that once in his career and that was three years ago. If the Marlins let him go 200 innings after only 60 last year they are agressive past the point of stupidity.

    Comment by rbt — January 13, 2012 @ 5:24 pm

  5. They didn’t make THE splash of the offseason; I think the Angels win that pretty handily.

    Great offseason for Marlins fans though, as it inevitably is when you suddenly have $100M to spend.

    Comment by Boblob — January 13, 2012 @ 5:48 pm

  6. For everything the Marlins have done or will do this off-season their success or failure in the coming years will hinge on the how two of their incumbents play. If Hanley Ramirez is one of the best players in the game and Josh Johnson is a top five starter they have the supporting cast to compete. If JJ can’t stay healthy and Hanley Ramirez is less than he was pre-2011 they will remain behind the Phillies and Braves. By 2013 if Strasburg and Zimmerman stay healthy and Harper joins the show, the Nationals might be the better team. If in 2013 they finish 4th in the NL East all this spending will indeed look stupid.

    Comment by Preston — January 13, 2012 @ 5:51 pm

  7. When I saw this headline I thought this had to be about the Pineda/Montero trade.

    Comment by Bobby Ayala — January 13, 2012 @ 8:28 pm

  8. This was probably their most suspect move of the offseason thus far…but even then, they’re only committing $27 million to Bell. It could be worse, right? After all, they didn’t show any sort of inclination to toss Jonathan-Papelbon-type money at a closer.

    The Bell deal was as risky or worse than the Pabelbon contract according to fWAR, bWAR and WPA, plus Bell is 3 years older with an alarming dip in K% last year.

    Comment by Phils_Goodman — January 13, 2012 @ 10:14 pm

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  11. I have no idea why they ever went away from “Marlins Will Soar” as a slogan…

    Comment by Lewis — January 14, 2012 @ 1:26 am

  12. Even when you don’t field a good team, a new stadium almost guarantees a huge attendance for the year. 2012’s attendance should be able to pay for it. Although when 2013 rolls around and people realize “wow, a bunch of guys who have already had great careers don’t usually have a second great career, but instead decline, we’re screwed” that’s what I’m interested in.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 14, 2012 @ 2:42 am

  13. I don’t get the Cespedes love. At 26 (and there’s always the “is he really 26?” stuff), he’s not really a prospect is he? 26 is basically your prime as a player, with 27 as the peak. Why in the hell is a guy compared to Adam Jones seen as some amazing deal? At 26 no less. In other words, average to above average production for 2-3 years, then decline. Awesome, whoo hoo, better get my checkbook out for that one.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 14, 2012 @ 2:44 am

  14. Cubans don’t come with the usual age related questions. One of the externalities of living on a small communist island is that they keep extremely good records. Communists are (were?) often joked to be the only people better at record keeping than bureaucrats.

    Comment by Brad Johnson — January 14, 2012 @ 9:46 am

  15. RE reyes and his “mediocre plate discipline”- he has great plate discipline, not posting a K rate above 11.5% since 2004. just because he doesn’t walk much doesn’t mean he doesn’t have good plate discipline.

    Comment by jim — January 14, 2012 @ 4:25 pm

  16. it wasn’t alarming, there was no real worrisome cause to it; it was random fluctuation that you get with guys who pitch ~70 innings a year

    Comment by jim — January 14, 2012 @ 4:27 pm

  17. Zambrano has no chance of being an ace. That is a ridiculous statement. Crawford has a better chance of going from replacement level to below replacement level.

    Comment by Garrett — January 14, 2012 @ 4:41 pm

  18. “There’s no doubt that the Marlins weren’t aggressive in pursuing Jose Reyes”

    Steve, I think you mean: “There’s no doubt that the Marlins WERE aggressive in pursuing Jose Reyes”

    Whatever the outcome on the field, the Marlins certainly made themselves into one of the most interesting and potentially entertaining teams in all of MLB. That can’t be bad for ticket sales either. The only problem is that if you don’t follow that up with success on the field, the off-the-field hijinks get pretty tired real fast.

    I can see the team going either way as questions remain about JJ’s ability to bounce back from physical problems, Hanley’s ability to bounce back from two declining years, Hanley’s happiness, and Zambrano’s ability to recapture dominance and ability to stay sane. And will Guillen explode off and on the field? Will Morrison behave (how about that hot tub pic!)?

    I look forward to seeing how the drama on and off the field will go for them.

    Comment by caseyB — January 14, 2012 @ 6:49 pm

  19. RE: Cubans don’t come with the usual age related questions.

    The country may have good accounting but it is usually the player who fudges his age if he’s a little bit older and obviously MLB teams won’t be knocking on the Cuban government’s doors to verify actual ages.

    Comment by Larry — January 14, 2012 @ 8:44 pm

  20. I have a set of cuban baseball cards from 1994 featuring both livan and Orlando Hernandez. If memory serves Livan is listed as 2 years older and Orlando 3, same month and day older year.

    Comment by dave — January 15, 2012 @ 1:29 am

  21. Okay, so even at 26, a guy who has never played above what’s a low minor equivalent, still isn’t much of a prospect to me. If he’s this good at 16, then there’s a story, but he’s not, he mashes bad (relatively speaking) pitching, awesome. Jose Constantza has done the same thing and is about the same age, no one is going to pay him a ton of money.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 15, 2012 @ 3:35 am

  22. The cause was the lowest Swinging Strike % of Bell’s career, along with the highest career Contact %s both inside and outside the zone.

    Comment by Phils_Goodman — January 15, 2012 @ 5:08 am

  23. The part you aren’t considering is “can the Marlins afford these contracts?” Sure, they’ll probably be fine for a year or two with the new stadium and the resulting assured revenues, but they’ve committed to very large contracts for quite a few years down the line. The Marlins have been a pitifully revenued team since their inception and that isn’t set to change long term: there isn’t any new TV deal and not a single fan has demonstrated a newfound love of the Marlins other than seeing their new stadium. Can they turn Miami into a baseball town? Jeffery Loria seems to think so. If they do, it will be one of the greatest sports marketing achievements of all time. If they don’t, it could be a catastrophic financial and on-field disgrace.

    Comment by Adam — January 15, 2012 @ 5:51 am

  24. Within the baseball industry, the Marlins have definitely been the talk of the town. Simply being involved in every major name and signing more than their share is shocking enough, but combined with the huge re-branding campaign and the almost inconceivable nature of the financial risk Loria and the team is taking, the Marlins will have the extra focus inside baseball.

    Comment by Adam — January 15, 2012 @ 5:54 am

  25. As a “Mets fan” if such a creature really can still exist, I hope it’s the latter! Misery loves company.

    Comment by Brian — January 17, 2012 @ 2:05 am

  26. The accumulation of ‘latino’ players and management for the sake of the ‘latino’ culture in the Miami area will be the reason that mainstream ‘America’ rejects the latino Marlins as a Major League Team. The US is a melting pot of many cultures, all of which have replaced their own nationality with that of the US.

    Comment by Ralph Eherts — January 17, 2012 @ 3:48 am

  27. Ralph, What is mainstream America? White people? The “latino” (as you so anachranistically put it) demographic in this country is gigantic and growing, and I don’t know if you’ve been to Miami (I live here), but it might as well be a “latino” island in the Carribean. I think the marketing is smart/obvious, and it will go a long way to ingratiate the “latino” community, locally and beyond. Baseball is “latino”. “Latinos” love baseball and have been an integral part of the makeup of the culture of baseball for some time. If the Marlins lose a few hillbilly xenophobes along the way, well then good riddance says this half-french half-cuban! Watch Nascar if you want to see more white people on your TV~

    Comment by nickcounty — January 17, 2012 @ 9:34 am

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