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  1. Could not agree more.

    Comment by Kyle — January 13, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

  2. I never thought I would say this but someone really has to introduce this man to Scott Boras.

    Comment by corvelay — January 13, 2012 @ 2:17 pm

  3. Even to a non-contender, Oswalt seems worth it just for the trade value? Is he the type of pitcher who, when he reaches free agency would garner a compensatory pick under the new CBA?

    Comment by dan woytek — January 13, 2012 @ 2:20 pm

  4. You’d have to make a qualifying offer of ~$12 million for next season in order to get compensation. If he pitches really well and is in line for a two or three year deal, then you can probably assume he’d pass that up to get 3/24 or something, but I don’t think you can count on getting compensation picks if he walks at year’s end.

    But, yeah, any team could probably benefit from signing him. Even if you’re not a contender, you pay him $4 million to make your club better for the first half of the season, then ship him off to a winner in July for a prospect.

    In fact, if I’m Oswalt, I wouldn’t be all that motivated to sign with a contender. He’d have to know that he’s trade-bait come this summer if his team isn’t winning, so no matter who he signs with, he’ll probably end the year in a pennant race. If he picks his first half team by focusing on organizations with big parks and good defenses, he could set himself up for a nice paycheck the following year and still likely pitch for a winner in the final two months of the season.

    Comment by Dave Cameron — January 13, 2012 @ 2:22 pm

  5. who could use a one year rental at Oswalt’s price though? bad teams are going to want to play as many youngsters as their roster permits. The contending teams have strong rotations already in place for the most par

    Comment by kick me in the GO NATS — January 13, 2012 @ 2:44 pm

  6. I looked around a bit and several teams actually could use him. Mostly noncontenders, but the reds look like they have room.

    Comment by kick me in the GO NATS — January 13, 2012 @ 2:48 pm

  7. I disagree that bad teams are going to want to play as many youngsters as possible, at least when it comes to pitching. There is a very real value in having a guy you can depend on to give you 6 quality innings every 5 days, especially with a team that has a lot of young arms you want to protect.

    Comment by Rob — January 13, 2012 @ 2:49 pm

  8. What about the Yankees?

    Comment by Dan — January 13, 2012 @ 3:04 pm

  9. I’d like to see just about any team sign Oswalt to that contract. My jaw basically dropped. Even if you expect 120 IP out of him, it’s hard to imagine he can’t hit 2 WAR.

    Comment by Brad Johnson — January 13, 2012 @ 3:16 pm

  10. Blue Jays

    Comment by DavidCEisen — January 13, 2012 @ 3:18 pm

  11. For $8 million every team in the league should be leaping to sign Oswalt. The A’s paid $10 million for Ben Sheets’ corpse a few years ago. They could certainly afford Oswalt and with the trades they could use more starting pitching.

    Comment by Krog — January 13, 2012 @ 4:17 pm

  12. Perfect fit for the Padres although with their ownership concerns and history I doubt they would spend $8m on Oswalt even though they should.

    Comment by schlomsd — January 13, 2012 @ 4:19 pm

  13. Giants.

    Comment by Baltar — January 13, 2012 @ 4:30 pm

  14. If he’s traded mid-season, he cannot earn picks for the acquiring team.

    Comment by DD — January 13, 2012 @ 4:44 pm

  15. Redsox.

    Comment by Ben Cherington — January 13, 2012 @ 5:58 pm

  16. Tigers

    Comment by Eric — January 13, 2012 @ 6:03 pm

  17. He can’t earn compensatory draft picks, but the team that trades him can get something in return. If Oswalt is even close to what he was before and he has an option for 2013, the return in prospects should be good.

    Comment by Jon — January 13, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

  18. Any team should want to sign him, it’s doubtful Oswalt would sign with any team.

    The Royals would be a great team to get him. He could help the young staff learn how to pitch in a pennant race.

    Comment by Neil — January 13, 2012 @ 6:45 pm

  19. Expos

    Comment by CJ — January 13, 2012 @ 7:31 pm

  20. whatever team jose canseco is currently playing on

    Comment by T-Baggy — January 13, 2012 @ 7:32 pm

  21. Hell, I’d give Oswalt that much to pay for my softball team. Its insane that his price has dropped this far.

    The Phillies should move heaven and earth to dump Blanton and sign Oswalt instead.

    Comment by NEPP — January 13, 2012 @ 9:11 pm

  22. Why is everyone assuming that GMs all of a sudden became prudent in the course of one offseason? Why is no one mentioning the magic word, “collusion”?

    Comment by Josh — January 13, 2012 @ 9:25 pm

  23. with Pineda headed to NY, Oswalt would make a nice slot in Sea with the big park and would be nice to add a veteran to a young Sea sqaud, and with the prattle about Sea making a run at Fielder its not like they have the purse strings tied tight.

    They could take Oswalt to stay competive early in the year and then flip him for a prospect in july. Boom #6ORG’d

    Comment by jesse — January 13, 2012 @ 9:26 pm

  24. This must be the first offseason in history that every Boras is getting completely hosed. He went from getting Werth at least $30 million over market value to settling(when was the last time Boras ever settled?) for a 1 year deal for Madson and having his other marquee clients all unsigned and looking like they will get way under the asking price. I believe there is a small, not insignificant chance of collusion against at least Boras clients. Werth happened and everyone said enough is enough

    Comment by Josh — January 13, 2012 @ 9:29 pm

  25. Considering the fact that he hasn’t signed with a team yet, I assumed he WAS a Scott Boras client.

    Comment by bstar — January 13, 2012 @ 10:02 pm

  26. Why would they collude against signing Oswalt to a 1 year, $8 M contract after “allowing” Pujols to leave St. Louis for $250 M?

    Comment by chuckb — January 13, 2012 @ 10:28 pm

  27. The Phillies should move heaven and earth to dump Blanton and sign Oswalt instead.

    I’ve been hoping for this all off-season. If someone would be willing to take around half of Blanton’s salary, it could work out for both sides.

    Comment by Phils_Goodman — January 13, 2012 @ 10:53 pm

  28. he is a Lozano client I believe

    Comment by Jeff — January 13, 2012 @ 11:30 pm

  29. Cardinals

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 14, 2012 @ 2:20 am

  30. Basically every team in a pitching-friendly park that’s in rebuilding mode that is hoarding prospects could use him. Oakland, Seattle, and San Diego all seem like great places for him. His numbers look great and then he gets traded for a nice prospect package, then he gets a big raise after helping out a contender. It’d be win/win/win for the rebuilding team, the contending team, and Oswalt.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 14, 2012 @ 2:24 am

  31. So one big contract disproves the collusion theory? Collusion has to occur in 100% of the market for it to be happening? It’s inconceivable for it to be happening in a targeted section of the market(i.e. Boras clients)?

    Please come back when you have something to contribute that checks in above an elementary level of logical thinking

    Comment by Josh — January 14, 2012 @ 3:26 am

  32. What are they colluding against? Fucking Bob Garber clients? Potential injury hazards?

    Comment by wat — January 14, 2012 @ 4:03 am

  33. Come back when you figure out who players fucking agents are.

    Comment by wat — January 14, 2012 @ 4:05 am

  34. There were some brief rumors that the Twins may offer 2/17.

    I’ll believe it when I see it, though.

    Comment by Brandon Warne — January 16, 2012 @ 12:05 pm

  35. The part of this article comparing Oswalt’s cost to that of hitters like Willingham and Kubel seems to overlook the recent downward trend in runs scored (http://www.faketeams.com/2011/10/4/2465129/mlb-runs-scored-drops-to-lowest-in-20-years-in-2011). Due to a combination of factors,, there are just less good hitters out there right now (especially in the NL), driving up the value of reliable-but-not-amazing hitters like Willingham, Kubel, or Cuddyer.

    Meanwhile, the relative value of reliable #3-5 starters seems to have gone done a little. With the drop off in scoring, teams are finding they can man those slots with less heralded guys – that they don’t have to pay big name veteran free agents to fill out the rest of their rotations. So a guy like Oswalt – one of the better, more reliable NL starters over the last decade – doesn’t command the premium he might have if he were a FA his age 5-6 years ago. Does that theory make sense?

    Comment by Will — January 18, 2012 @ 11:35 am

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