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  1. “a 100-run season”

    Pretty sure you mean 1000-run season.

    Comment by walt526 — January 24, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

  2. Or 100 win season :-P

    Comment by shibboleth — January 24, 2012 @ 2:32 pm

  3. The Sox also have Ryan Kalish, who is now the presumptive RFer of the future. He’ll start the season on the DL recovering from shoulder surgery, and then go to Pawtucket until he earns his way onto the Boston roster. Carl Crawford may also start the season on the DL, after a recently-announced surgery.

    He’s really a perfect match for their needs. If Crawford is out, they’ll need him to be an every day player, and he’s good enough to do that. But if Sweeney or Kalish are hitting well, he should be a pure platoon/backup player. Fenway’s right field is one of the most difficult in baseball, and he should be good there. He’s also capable (if below-average) of filling in at CF if he turns into more of a 4th outfielder.

    It was smart of Cherington to wait so long to sign Ross. His asking price was originally something ridiculous like $15M/3. I’d say $3M is a good deal for him.

    Comment by Yirmiyahu — January 24, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

  4. And as a pull hitter he has a chance to really abuse the Green Monster.

    Comment by doctorogres — January 24, 2012 @ 2:35 pm

  5. Ross also provides another solid outfielder in the seemingly likely event that Carl Crawford is not ready to start the season.

    Comment by Ben Hall — January 24, 2012 @ 2:35 pm

  6. I think that was a key factor. I could live with a platoon of Sweeney and DMac if we got another SP like Oswalt, but if CC is not ready, and the OF became DMac, Ells, and Sweeney every day for a month, that would be a real problem.

    Comment by Joey B — January 24, 2012 @ 2:44 pm

  7. Miracuously, the Sox pulled off a historic 100 run season.

    Comment by George W Lucas — January 24, 2012 @ 2:58 pm

  8. This makes Ned Colleti giving Juan Rivera 4.5 million dollars look even worse

    Comment by GOB — January 24, 2012 @ 3:05 pm

  9. “The Red Sox were supposed to be one of the best offenses ever last season”

    I’d wager 116 wRC+ is in the top 20 offense performances of all time.

    Comment by Slartibartfast — January 24, 2012 @ 3:16 pm

  10. #22 since 1900. Not to far off.

    Comment by futant462 — January 24, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

  11. #20 on the button if you only go back to 1920. Good wager.

    Comment by Eric — January 24, 2012 @ 3:38 pm

  12. Cool, thanks. Was about to say “Wish I had that kind of information at my fingertips…” then I figured it out on the Teams page!

    Comment by Slartibartfast — January 24, 2012 @ 3:38 pm

  13. Why is nobody talking about Prince Fielder yet????

    Comment by Colin — January 24, 2012 @ 3:46 pm

  14. That 116 wRC+ is tied for 32nd all time. But since 1933, they are tied for 13th. And it’s the Sox’ 2nd highest all time.

    It’s better than the 1936 Yankees, who scored 1065 runs and hit .300/.381/.483/.864. And better than the 1999 Indians, who scored 1009 runs and hit .289/.373/.467/.840.

    Comment by Yirmiyahu — January 24, 2012 @ 3:48 pm

  15. Because this article is about Cody Ross and the Red Sox?

    Comment by Yirmiyahu — January 24, 2012 @ 3:48 pm

  16. Who the f cares about Cody Ross, Prince just signed a 200 million deal.

    Comment by Colin — January 24, 2012 @ 3:49 pm

  17. “the Red Sox come away from this one with a steal”


    this is Cody Ross we’re talking about, right?

    Comment by everdiso — January 24, 2012 @ 3:54 pm

  18. Colin, you know you did click on an article entitled “Cody Ross to Boston”, right?

    Comment by Yirmiyahu — January 24, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

  19. Who am I? Why am I here?

    Comment by Admiral James Stockdale — January 24, 2012 @ 5:08 pm

  20. is the fit natural?

    Comment by daunderpar — January 24, 2012 @ 5:34 pm

  21. Cody Ross and Boston are a natural fit. Right-handed pull hitter who plays good corner OF defense on a 3 mil deal… It may ends up one of the 5 best deals in this off-season.

    Comment by Kampfer — January 24, 2012 @ 6:49 pm

  22. When I read that sentence in the article, I was hoping he was referring to a new saber stat I hadn’t; like “100 runs….above the next best team” or something.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 24, 2012 @ 6:54 pm

  23. Congratulations BTW on the Red Sox winning the 2011 AL East and the Worl..d……sorry

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 24, 2012 @ 6:55 pm


    It’s not a steal just because that’s what the market pays free agents. You should be able to find guys like him in your farm system. With a 160M payroll, anytime you have to sign a guy like this, it’s not a steal. It’s embarrassing.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 24, 2012 @ 6:57 pm

  25. Jesus Christ based on what? If I convince a 4 year old to give me a quarter in exchange for a penny did I make a better deal than someone who invested 1,000 dollars and made 10,000? Yea, I guess in terms of, I made 25x my investment and they only made 10x. However, my deal was insignificant and didn’t really add much overall value and frankly, I shouldn’t have to barter with a 4 year old and I shouldn’t have to focus on getting quarters.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — January 24, 2012 @ 7:00 pm

  26. An average outfielder getting average money for his position. I wouldn’t call it a bad deal, but it wasn’t a steal. A good move for the Red Sox, though, who really needed some depth in the OF.

    Comment by Joel — January 24, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

  27. Andruw Jones for 2mil is a steal….. Cody Ross for 3 mil is a short term stopgap.

    He put up 0.9 WAR in nearly a full year last year (in a down year); as a platoon player his rates will improve some but his PA’s should be cut in half. He’s maybe a 2WAR player playing full time? Part time, he’s what? 1 WAR?

    Not sure how this qualifies as a steal (other than it’s the Boston front office, thus it has to be a good move). Good signing but Fangraphs needs to stop falling over themselves to laud every move Boston’s front office makes.

    If Sabean or Amaro, jr does this signing does it get labeled as a “steal”?

    Comment by Joe — January 24, 2012 @ 7:54 pm

  28. oops – not meant as a reply.

    Comment by Joe — January 24, 2012 @ 7:55 pm

  29. did you not read the rest of the article?

    Comment by jim — January 24, 2012 @ 8:34 pm

  30. Um, people have been blasting the Red Sox off-season moves. Fangraphs hardly loves the Red Sox new front office.
    However, a decent right handed 3rd/4th OF was a gaping hole on the team last year. Nicely filled.

    Comment by Bica — January 24, 2012 @ 10:36 pm

  31. Wow Fangraphs. Are all the writers here trying to angle for a job with the Red Sox front office?

    Some objectivity please? It’s incredible how much the site applauds their mediocre moves. They’ve shuffled young, cheap depth at SS and OF for young, cheap RPs, the most fungible and inconsistent asset in baseball. I mean I’d give them maybe a C+ for those moves. All of those assets would have been better utilized acquiring a SP and getting Madson on the cheap for the $8.5M he signed for.

    If my Indians received half the coverage that the Sox did… I bet most people on the site don’t even know who Chris Antonetti is, despite being a GM a year longer than Ben Cherington.

    Comment by Mike — January 24, 2012 @ 11:02 pm

  32. Not a steal – but I wonder if the Sox still believe that some players break out at age 31. BTW, I’ll bet the 2011 Sox offense was the best ever with zero contribution from both corner outfield spots. That guy in LF is just another Fausto Carmona impersonator.

    Comment by Mr Punch — January 25, 2012 @ 6:07 am

  33. $3M for a platoon player? Not a steal

    Comment by Headhunter — January 25, 2012 @ 9:14 am

  34. Nice pickup for a small market team with limited resources.

    Comment by Neuter Your Dogma — January 25, 2012 @ 9:25 am

  35. Boy, do I agree with you. Every organization should have a player of Cody Ross’ caliber in its farm system. Which is why I can’t agree that paying $3 mil for his projected production is a good deal. You should be able to get that production from a AAAA-caliber player in your farm system for less than $1 mil. That’s what a farm system is for!

    Comment by Robbie G. — January 25, 2012 @ 10:18 am

  36. I’d be a “steal” to solve all your SS problems too! Punto? Please!
    But I only got $2.1 million, I’m firing my agent!

    Comment by Edgar Renteria — January 25, 2012 @ 10:20 am

  37. How did I miss out on this? I can pull the ball!

    Comment by Pat the Bat — January 25, 2012 @ 10:21 am

  38. How many guys have fresh-out-of-the-farm-system 4th outfielders, exactly? And how many project to be better than Ross?

    Comment by Ari Collins — January 25, 2012 @ 11:09 am

  39. The people here who think FG just blindly loves Red Sox moves are a) not paying attention to FG’s coverage of Boston’s moves so far, and b) not paying attention to FG’s even-handed coverage of everything ever.

    Comment by Ari Collins — January 25, 2012 @ 11:11 am

  40. yeah dude, the tigers totally got a BETTER steal with prince because he’s better than cody ross. that is what steal means, right?

    Comment by juan pierres mustache — January 25, 2012 @ 11:48 am

  41. and how many do the red sox have right now? because it really doesn’t matter what they should have in their system, it matters what they do have. what they do have is several injured OFs and a dearth of ML-ready OFs in their farm system, so they went out and got a mediocre guy on a one year deal.

    Comment by juan pierres mustache — January 25, 2012 @ 12:04 pm

  42. Jack,
    I’m very confused as to why this deal was made because Darnell McDonald also hits left handed pitching well (114 wRC+). Sure, that’s not quite as good as Ross, but its still good for a platoon. Was it really worth it to upgrade part of the right field platoon and in the process give up a steady starting shortstop? I’m not buying this deal from that standpoint.

    Comment by Greg K — January 25, 2012 @ 12:22 pm

  43. Why yes, yes i did.

    Comment by everdiso — January 26, 2012 @ 9:56 am

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