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  1. Just a quick note. There’s probably about 10 of you who purchased the 2011 Second Opinion in the past 30 days. I will be refunding your account and giving you free access to FanGraphs+ 2012.

    If you purchased The 2011 Second Opinion outside of 30 days, but after the World Series you will be given access to FanGraphs+ 2012

    Comment by David Appelman — February 7, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  2. 4.99, is that in dollars or souls? I know the Dark Overlord must feed.

    But assuming dollars, consider this a purchase from me.

    Comment by wiersNRAF — February 7, 2012 @ 11:40 am

  3. To be honest, after paying for that utterly useless iPhone app last year, I can’t really trust any Fangraphs purchased content.

    Comment by Slartibartfast — February 7, 2012 @ 11:50 am

  4. Meh. Had you called it iFangraphs, I’d be all over it.

    Comment by junker23 — February 7, 2012 @ 11:52 am

  5. A Fangraphs+ of 2012? Somehow I doubt that this is 20.12 times better than the average Fangraphs.

    Comment by buddy — February 7, 2012 @ 12:09 pm

  6. I’d require some sabermetric analysis or site native stat before going this route, myself. Maybe something like WAF? Writing for Advanced Fangraphing? I currently have a WAF of 1, if I just read ESPN it’d be a 0, if I could tolerate Bleacher Report my WAF would be -5….

    Comment by sc2gg — February 7, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

  7. Still waiting for an announcement on NotGraphs+.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — February 7, 2012 @ 12:55 pm

  8. I was wondering about that App. Does FanGraphs+ 2012 translate well into the App? I don’t want to read that much content sitting in my chair, so printing a .pdf or Ipad friendly is optimal.

    Although, I’m buying in any case because its the least we can do for all the freebies (and its $35 cheaper than BP).

    Comment by Steve Balboni — February 7, 2012 @ 1:00 pm

  9. Is there a PDF of all of the content?

    Comment by mdecav — February 7, 2012 @ 1:39 pm

  10. Is it updated throughout the course of the year with additional info?

    Comment by PTB — February 7, 2012 @ 2:07 pm

  11. The projections by Bill James and being able to look over career stats is useful but the editors articles aren’t really any good. They are rarely correct in their projections.

    Some examples. They predicted David Price to be better than Clayton Kershaw. They then said Clayton Kershaw was never gonna get over his wildness even though he had improved every single year on his WHIP.

    I mean seriously editors who can’t even tell signs of improvement? How is that worth paying for? I can get just as bad of predictions on CBS Sports free of charge.

    Only a fool would pay for lousy articles written by guys who prolly were rejected as sportswriters on other sites.

    Comment by Matt — February 7, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

  12. I am rather interested in scouting reports like in this website, but more detials:
    http://tsn.ca/mlb/teams/players/bio/?id=3618.
    For example for an OF, I’d rather read is he a poor/below average/average/good/great fielder/arm talent and how he handles two strikes and how he behaves himself on the bases then what is the projection for him in HR’s OBP according to previous numbers.

    Comment by Petersonnn — February 7, 2012 @ 2:40 pm

  13. completely agree I could not be more disappointed with the app i hope they improve it.

    Comment by Tyler — February 7, 2012 @ 3:11 pm

  14. Sabermetric humor.

    It ain’t for everyone.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — February 7, 2012 @ 3:23 pm

  15. It’s actually just a video of Cistulli tapdancing. Not that cool. OK, it is cool.

    Comment by Brandon Warne — February 7, 2012 @ 4:00 pm

  16. With no PDF, I won’t be buying this. I loved the PDF last year as I threw it on my flash drive and had access to all of the player profiles on my laptop in one spot (and I didn’t need to be connected to the internet to boot).

    Comment by Mike J — February 7, 2012 @ 4:29 pm

  17. Stupid me – didn’t read the end of the article

    Comment by mdecav — February 7, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

  18. It’s 20.12 times the better than the average baseball site.

    Comment by gouis — February 7, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

  19. agreed pdf was the point of buying this

    Comment by jesse — February 7, 2012 @ 5:04 pm

  20. Eh, I just spent double for groceries to make dinner with tonight….so I cannot very well pass this up for 5 bucks.

    Comment by Colin — February 7, 2012 @ 7:28 pm

  21. How about the point is supporting a site you visit every day and get lots of amazing content for free?

    Comment by Louis — February 7, 2012 @ 7:30 pm

  22. I agree. I’d definitely pay $5 for a GOOD fangraphs app with integrated player comments and OFF-LINE stats (like the Baseball Mobile app).

    No PDF is a deal-breaker as well.

    Comment by Rob H. — February 7, 2012 @ 8:39 pm

  23. Seems like a strange decision since you could make a readable (but not pretty) PDF in like an hour of work.

    Comment by smcfee — February 7, 2012 @ 8:53 pm

  24. They did nail James Shields as a guy who was unlucky two years ago and Cahill as a guy who was lucky.

    Comment by drewcorb — February 7, 2012 @ 9:14 pm

  25. Can’t you just make your own PDF of their articles/projections?

    Comment by JC — February 7, 2012 @ 9:48 pm

  26. Guys, I hate to b*tch, but this is disappointing. I paid the $4.99 just to support the best baseball blog on the internets. That being said FanGraphs+ is a bit lazy. Wouldn’t it have been prudent to list team and position on the player profiles? What about ’12 projections, shouldn’t you have at least include James’s or Rotowire’s? And call me old school but give me a pdf option, something I can easily access and read when I’m not connected.

    Still love you guys, but some updates to FG+ would be most welcome!

    Comment by Rich Alan — February 7, 2012 @ 10:29 pm

  27. Thanks for the feedback.

    In the past we’ve listed either Fan Projections or Marcels. If you want to see projections those are available on the site along with the quick opinions.

    I will look into adding team / position and maybe the fan projections because we probably can’t add Bill James or Rotochamp.

    For those interested in making the content available off-line, you may want to check out Readability.

    Comment by David Appelman — February 8, 2012 @ 12:01 am

  28. No blurb for Kendrys Morales? Intended or oversight?

    Comment by CubbieBlue66 — February 8, 2012 @ 12:22 am

  29. oh man, they got two guys wrong? screw this, i’m outta here.

    Comment by JDanger — February 8, 2012 @ 8:28 pm

  30. I screwed up and bought it without reading the very lowly placed statement saying “NO PDF.” Come on! That’s the best thing about it. Flipin’ pages, making notes, and killing the competition at the auction! That’s what it’s all about.
    PLEASE GIVE US A PDF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    PLEASE GIVE US A PDF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    PLEASE GIVE US A PDF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Rodney — February 10, 2012 @ 7:48 pm

  31. I would totally buy it if you guys created an android app that could access the paid data

    Comment by adam — February 14, 2012 @ 12:44 am

  32. This is sarcasm, right? Right?

    Comment by Donut3 — February 14, 2012 @ 1:35 am

  33. Bought it, love it. Thanks!

    Comment by Luke Appling — February 14, 2012 @ 12:59 pm

  34. whoa nfw…did they use, like, babip and stuff??

    Comment by sprot — February 15, 2012 @ 9:32 am

  35. No profile on Wainwright?

    Comment by nickkappel — February 15, 2012 @ 5:20 pm

  36. Rarely have I seen so many people bitch about things that cost so little … FanGraphs+ ($5), App ($3). You must be the same people who complain about lack of 5 star food/service at fast food restaurants.

    Comment by GrittleTooth — February 16, 2012 @ 10:56 am

  37. add me to the list of people that would pay $5 or so for a pdf and access to a bonus blog but not as thrilled with the current set.

    the one underrated use of the iphone app is the live % charts in game, which is nice the 5-10 times a year I’m at a game. I’d love to improve those for context (ie: a lead with two defensive/pitching minded teams in say petco park means more than some offensive juggernaut matchup in coors field.

    Anyway, still not an awful app.

    i’d almost donate just becuase i get use out of the site, but id get zero utility out of not having a pdf.

    Comment by TheUnrepentantGunner — February 16, 2012 @ 11:43 am

  38. I cut and pasted most of it into a word file last night. (It took longer than I thought because the site loads pretty slow.) So the price was $4.95 plus 1 hour and since I bill out at $450, that’s expensive to get a useful product. But I’m thrilled with my purchase.

    Comment by Steve Balboni — February 17, 2012 @ 11:54 am

  39. I support the site by visiting it and generating ad revenue.

    Comment by Admiral Whiskers — February 17, 2012 @ 1:32 pm

  40. I see Matt got a -39 for his post but I hope it was for tone because I have to agree that the profiles and quick opinions aren’t on the same level as the articles we read every day. But it’s only $4.99 – I’m happy to support Fangraphs.

    Comment by NBH — February 18, 2012 @ 10:24 am

  41. I’m sorry… so a man who makes books about the Bible in Lego-Land, or works for a company that makes books about the Bible in Lego-Land, bills $450 an hour… I had no damn idea Lego Bibles were so damn lucrative. Any jobs available in this emerging market?

    Comment by Indeed — February 18, 2012 @ 11:33 pm

  42. $4.99 is a pittance. The content this site provides for free is worth far more than that, I’ll happily pay.

    Comment by Subversive — February 18, 2012 @ 11:51 pm

  43. I kinda thought you got this free when you joined a $50 ottoneu league.

    Comment by deadhead — February 19, 2012 @ 2:12 pm

  44. He’s been added.

    Comment by David Appelman — February 20, 2012 @ 1:32 am

  45. Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth. A man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.’ Luke 12:15

    But access to Fangraphs+ is not, technically speaking, a possession, so order now!

    Comment by Steve Balboni — February 21, 2012 @ 2:35 pm

  46. Readability doesn’t work for FanGraphs+.

    Comment by Kevin — February 24, 2012 @ 5:47 pm

  47. We’re begging you to please provide the PDF. I certainly would be willing to pay an incremental fee for it.

    Comment by PJC — February 25, 2012 @ 4:15 pm

  48. Really Admiral Whiskers? Do you know how ad revenue works? Do you go to Fangraphs every day and click on each ad you see on every page? I’m honestly curious.

    Comment by Scott — February 25, 2012 @ 5:48 pm

  49. just bought fangraphs v1.1 via the itunes store, will i have access to v2?

    Comment by halebm — March 7, 2012 @ 8:45 am

  50. to be honest I had to draw the line at taking my porn with me.

    Comment by pounded clown — March 10, 2012 @ 5:42 am

  51. Where are you going, i was gonna make espresso.

    Comment by pounded clown — March 10, 2012 @ 6:40 am

  52. I just bought it but had some difficulty in navigating to the page. I was looking for big Second Option add that has been there each year but didn’t see it. I actually panicked because I thought I wouldn’t have my indispensable draft day tool.

    Comment by pounded clown — March 10, 2012 @ 6:59 am

  53. derp: Second Opinion

    Comment by pounded clown — March 10, 2012 @ 7:00 am

  54. Clearly you’ve never been to a Subway with me.

    Comment by RationalSportsFan — March 29, 2012 @ 11:55 pm

  55. Depends whether Fangraphs ads are pay-per-click, pay-per-impression, or some flat rate. I am guessing the Dark Overlord (praised be his name), in his infinite wisdom, probably operates on all three models.

    So, yes, just coming to this site probably makes Fangraphs money.

    Comment by RationalSportsFan — March 30, 2012 @ 12:00 am

  56. Nothing to do with FanGraphs+…. but is Fangraphs app ever coming out for Android?

    Comment by David — March 30, 2012 @ 10:50 am

  57. Yeah 4.99 is pretty steep in souls. The Dark Overlord really needs to raise interest rates, inflation is out of control.

    Comment by Ludwig von Koopa — March 30, 2012 @ 10:54 am

  58. Yeah, that would be me. I paid for FG+ a week or so ago. Didn’t realize it wasn’t for this year.

    Comment by Badger — March 30, 2012 @ 11:40 am

  59. It is for this year.

    Comment by David Appelman — March 30, 2012 @ 11:43 am

  60. There is no profile for Brennan Boesch.

    Comment by Ira — March 30, 2012 @ 12:58 pm

  61. LOL, yeah I just saw the date on the original comment.

    Comment by Badger — March 30, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

  62. In regards to the pdf, I appreciate your concerns for maintaining a high quality product (I just don’t feel comfortable promising a half-hearted PDF.), but ALL of us want / need a pdf. PLEASE reconsider and put one out for us!

    Thank you.

    Comment by Rodney — March 30, 2012 @ 11:49 pm

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