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  1. Roy Oswalt could be the determining factor of which team, STL or CIN, wins the Central. They appear to be that close on paper.

    Comment by Matt — February 7, 2012 @ 3:00 pm

  2. Right now, the only teams we know he wants to go to are the Cards and Rangers and maybe the Reds, all of whom have full rotations, seemingly on his terms, and seemingly at his price.

    He’s acting like he’s Pedro Martinez in his prime, and not a pretty good pitcher with a history of back problems whose own pitching coach (Rich Dubee) said he was only good for about 20-25 starts per year going forward.

    Sometimes I wonder how much Oswalt wants to play or if he just wants to retire.

    Comment by hunterfan — February 7, 2012 @ 3:07 pm

  3. It could/should be mentioned that Bailey is out of options, too.

    Comment by KMiB — February 7, 2012 @ 3:09 pm

  4. Pirates apparently offered him 1 yr 10 mil, and he turned it down. Worst case he woulda got traded to a contender midseason. Screw him.

    Comment by Melkman — February 7, 2012 @ 3:15 pm

  5. At this point, are the Red Sox the only team with an actual offer on the table to Oswalt?

    Comment by LeftBrainSwag — February 7, 2012 @ 3:18 pm

  6. As a Reds fan, I wouldn’t want to give up Bailey or Chapman just for one year of Oswalt. If they had the payroll space to add him without subtracting anyone I’d be all for it, but not if they have to give up one of those two.

    Comment by Josh A — February 7, 2012 @ 3:25 pm

  7. I wouldn’t count Philly out yet

    Comment by Psst — February 7, 2012 @ 3:27 pm

  8. Roy Oswalt is a good pitcher, the question for him really is how many teams are in the market considering

    a) They still room on the roster
    b) They still have room in the budget
    c) Can he make enough of an impact for that team

    That is very tight criteria this late in the game. He might be stuck sitting on the sidelines unless he drastically lowers his salary requirements.

    Comment by Steve K — February 7, 2012 @ 3:39 pm

  9. I’d be willing to bet he will swallow his pride and accept less money to play in StL with Berkman and Beltran. He signs for one year and around $8 million by the end of the week is my guess…. Any takers?

    Comment by the hottest stove — February 7, 2012 @ 3:44 pm

  10. I think if StL was willing to offer him $8 mil and a guaranteed spot in the rotation, he’d be there already.

    I’m guessing StL either has been offering a lot less (like say, 3-5 mil) and/or are not guaranteeing a starter’s job.

    Comment by hunterfan — February 7, 2012 @ 3:48 pm

  11. I agree he’d be there already if there was an offer of $6M+ but there’s no way he’s going to pen before Westbrook.

    Still think the Rox rotation needs a veteran leader and Guthrie isn’t exactly that guy. It’s not exactly the location he wants, but if they make a fair offer he’ll go.

    Comment by Spike — February 7, 2012 @ 4:01 pm

  12. Mrlins should have jumped before pulling trigger on Zambrano.

    Comment by Spike — February 7, 2012 @ 4:02 pm

  13. oh and TOR is the other team where Oswalt fits.

    Comment by Spike — February 7, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

  14. Toronto has so many potential starters I have hard time believing that they will look at him. I do say “potential”, beyond Romero, none have shown that they can be consistently good.

    Guaranteed starters are (most likely),
    * Brandon Morrow
    * Ricky Romero
    * Brett Cecil

    Other potential starters are,
    * Henderson Alvarez
    * Jesse Litsch
    * Dustin McGowan
    * Carlos Villanueva
    * Kyle Drabek (unlikely)

    That is up to about 8 potential starters on the roster. I am not saying Oswalt could not contribute, but I think that they are going to be trying all of these guys first to see who to keep and who to drop this year.

    Comment by Steve K — February 7, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

  15. I remember when he was a top 25 prospect for a few years running…good times.

    Comment by Colin — February 7, 2012 @ 4:40 pm

  16. You may be right… I think Oswalt expected the Rangers to be more involved for leverage… so the Cardinals might get him for even cheaper. I still bet he ends up with a decent deal that saves face. Any team would love to have him for $3 million, but you don’t want a completely demoralized and pissed off pitcher once he signs, either. (regardless of how poorly he negotiated to end up there.) I could see anywhere from $6-8 mil but I’d be shocked if it goes any lower than that even with his back against a wall.

    Comment by the hottest stove — February 7, 2012 @ 4:45 pm

  17. He also shot down a chance to join the Tigers. He’s awfully particular.

    Comment by Ian — February 7, 2012 @ 5:05 pm

  18. He was better than pretty good for a long time and his salary demands are pretty reasonable considering his track record and his performance last year (one bad month excepted). He’s a clear upgrade for the Reds on Arroyo, but they won’t/can’t dodge his contract, and it’s probably not wise for them to give up on Bailey just yet with a few more years of team control.

    Comment by Colin P — February 7, 2012 @ 5:55 pm

  19. plenty of teams may have 8 SPs lined up, but few are as good as Oswalt and in TOR only Romero or Morrow are certain for that rotation.

    But of course Oswalt really only makes any sense if the Jays actually try and be relevant this year. Till now there hasn’t been much indication they’re moving out of the building stage.

    By the time they decide to get real and try to contend, Bautista may be on the wrong side. IMO, they should mount a real effort and see where it goes. Oswalt may not want to go up there, but why not give him a phone call at least?

    Comment by Spike — February 7, 2012 @ 6:10 pm

  20. How dare a guy only pitch for teams he wants to pitch for…HOW DARE HE!

    Comment by NEPP — February 7, 2012 @ 7:04 pm

  21. Yeah, what the fuck why does he care about more things than money! Move to China asshole!

    Comment by DavidCEisen — February 7, 2012 @ 7:25 pm

  22. I’m surprised he’s played this long. Back when he was in his prime(and it wasn’t just “pretty good”), he said multiple times he was planning on retiring at 32 or 33.

    Comment by bstar — February 7, 2012 @ 8:23 pm

  23. He wants to play for a contender near his home. How in the world do the Blue Jays qualify on either of those? He’s not going to Canada to play.

    Comment by bstar — February 7, 2012 @ 8:31 pm

  24. Chapman no, Bailey yes. Bailey’s had enough chances, he’s a bust.

    Comment by JKG — February 8, 2012 @ 3:45 am

  25. none of the contenders near his home have rotation spots for him. I thought that was understood.

    Comment by Spike — February 8, 2012 @ 9:50 am

  26. Bailey’s a fine fifth starter, particularly at the money he makes.

    Sure, if you want him to be something else you’re likely to be disappointed, and sometimes teams misevaluate players because of what might have been, but Bailey has value.

    Comment by Jack Straw — February 8, 2012 @ 11:39 am

  27. Lets see…Bailey is 25 and his stats have continued to improve each of the last three years… particularly in his K/BB ratio. Those are signs of a possible breakout on the horizon.

    Comment by joshualramsey — February 8, 2012 @ 11:55 am

  28. Do the Cards and Reds know this?

    Neither one of them seems to be treating Oswalt as if he’s the difference.

    I don’t think they’re actually as close as you do.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — February 8, 2012 @ 1:24 pm

  29. So, after we’ve worked in our careers for a long time, very successfully we won’t be very selective about where we work? And we’ll look at more than just net pay when we make our decision? Shocking.

    Seriously, people need to get of their high horses and stop criticizing athletes for doing the very same thing we do in our own careers, only on a lesser scale.

    If Oswalt doesn’t get his demands met, he’ll have to change them or find another career … just like the rest of us.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — February 8, 2012 @ 1:38 pm

  30. If those are their “potential” starters, then I’d say Oswalt would be a priority.

    EVERY team has a Top 10 prospect list. EVERY team has “potential” starters. They have to.

    The Blue Jays potential starters aren’t that promising or exciting. There are some guys that look like they “might” be decent, but given unsustainable BB/9 and BABIPs over s asmall sample, it would be necessary to regress their projections a lot, and that’s going to make them look mire ho-hum than “could be really good”.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — February 8, 2012 @ 1:43 pm

  31. Hey, Roy, you want to play for a legit contender this year … go sign with the third best team in the AL East.

    Comment by MrKnowNothing — February 8, 2012 @ 2:26 pm

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